If Sellers returns...

[18IsTheMan]

Not posting this to discuss all the possible scenarios of him staying/going pro/transferring. Just considering the possibility that he could return.

If he does, should there be an open competition at QB in the spring and fall? Obviously, he went into spring and fall of this year as the anointed starter. Whatever "competition" there was competition in name only.

Does his performance this year warrant that kind of status for next season, though? Obviously, we know he's been hampered by the OL and run game, but we've also seen be wildly inaccurate aside from those issues. His decision-making has been suspect. To what degree do coaches still lean on his 2024 performance down the stretch as that being indicative of who he is as a QB?

Maybe all he needs is a decent OC who can scheme to his strengths.

Would he return if it was an open QB competition?

I will say, he has not been the reason we've lost any of our games this year, so I would not exactly call him a liability in that way.

 

[Lurker123]

My first thought when Beamer started talking about the playoffs for next year was that Sellers has told him he will be coming back.

Just a hunch.

I believe a competition for the starting job needs to happen. But honestly? I think k Shane will be "loyal" to Sellers, and he'll be the starter regardless.

 

[Cockofdawn]

No Matter what, if the Coastal game gets to be one sided, (either way) Woods needs to get some Playing time!

 

[Gamecock Jacob]

Not posting this to discuss all the possible scenarios of him staying/going pro/transferring. Just considering the possibility that he could return.

If he does, should there be an open competition at QB in the spring and fall? Obviously, he went into spring and fall of this year as the anointed starter. Whatever "competition" there was competition in name only.

Does his performance this year warrant that kind of status for next season, though? Obviously, we know he's been hampered by the OL and run game, but we've also seen be wildly inaccurate aside from those issues. His decision-making has been suspect. To what degree do coaches still lean on his 2024 performance down the stretch as that being indicative of who he is as a QB?

Maybe all he needs is a decent OC who can scheme to his strengths.

Would he return if it was an open QB competition?

I will say, he has not been the reason we've lost any of our games this year, so I would not exactly call him a liability in that way.

If Beamer can hire an elite OC and rebuild the offensive line, I think Sellers can be elite. All of the mistakes he is making is 100% coaching. Let's be honest, if he returns, I don't think there is any real QB competition. He would be a 3rd year starter.

 

[92Pony]

No Matter what, if the Coastal game gets to be one sided, (either way) Woods needs to get some Playing time!

He will get to hand-off the last 3 plays of the game, and he will LIKE IT!

 

[92Pony]

I think Beamer tells / has told Sellars if he returns, he WILL be the starter next year. 1> May be the only way he returns 2> If he returns, we're no doubt paying him, and who / what coach wants to see your million-dollar-man sitting the bench (even *IF* someone else on the team is better)
I agree though; Next spring, there should be an all-out, wide-open competition for the QB position. Bad thing there is, I'm sure LS "practices well"..... But then we've all seen how he's played this season without a yellow jersey. And we all also know that how you practice > how your play in the game(s).

 

[Gradstudent]

If Seller returns, he starts, and then with a better OC, OL, maturity of the freshman WR's, we see positive progress in 2026, and he is better equipped to enter the NFL draft and be a high first round pick and better prepared for the mediocre or below, NFL scenario he will step into, as a high pick for his new team.

 

[18IsTheMan]

If Seller returns, he starts, and then with a better OC, OL, maturity of the freshman WR's, we see positive progress in 2026, and he is better equipped to enter the NFL draft and be a high first round pick and better prepared for the mediocre or below, NFL scenario he will step into, as a high pick for his new team.

Who transfers out if he does return is the other question.

My guess is Noland would be gone. Maybe him and Woods both.

Beamer's track record here is that the backup QB hardly plays. Ever. Unless forced b/c of injury.

 

[Sleepyhead]

Who transfers out if he does return is the other question.

My guess is Noland would be gone. Maybe him and Woods both.

Beamer's track record here is that the backup QB hardly plays. Ever. Unless forced b/c of injury.

From asking on the big spur in the offseason, Woods is better than Noland and processes things more quickly. With Duckworth coming in, I don’t see Noland staying to compete.

 

[Gradstudent]

Who transfers out if he does return is the other question.

My guess is Noland would be gone. Maybe him and Woods both.

Beamer's track record here is that the backup QB hardly plays. Ever. Unless forced b/c of injury.

I agree on Noland, and with Woods, that's an interesting point, transferability, maybe that is why he hasn't played much? The staff wants to keep him and doesn't want much game footage, which will make it easier to transfer, he was not that heavily recruited. Maybe that is something they think about these days, he gets some good game tape assembled , then he is more confident going to the transfer portal that the teams he is interested in will be more receptive.

 

[Bubba Fett]

I'm sure Sellers is a fine young man, and maybe it was just a sophomore slump, or bad coaching, but....

He regressed in every possible way this year. Not only does he not look like an NFL pick, he doesn't look like a D1 college QB.

Consistently missing wife open receivers on key downs is maddening.

If he comes back, it has to be under competition and no guarantees. If he wants, or needs, a guarantee, he needs to go elsewhere.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

There should always be an open competition for every position every year, let the best man win.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

There should always be an open competition for every position every year, let the best man win.

It's only fair.

 

[rockingamecock]

Sellers previously said that the only place he'll go to after USC is the NFL.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Sellers previously said that the only place he'll go to after USC is the NFL.

I am not at all worried about a transfer.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Sellers previously said that the only place he'll go to after USC is the NFL.

He might make the CFL. Who knows?

 

[Go Gamecocks]

My experience with watching lots of QBs, is they seldom make marked improvements in the basics that Sellers is failing at.
Either you're accurate or you're not. Either you "see" the field of you don't.
How many QBs have we seen that try to get "fixed", but just aren't elite throwers? Remember Tebow? I'm sure there are many more.

You don't compete for any kind of playoff without a good pass thrower. Beamer is delusional.

 

[Anon1705945076]

Many think Miami is targeting Sellers for next year.Say what you will about Miami but they seem to give their QB a chance to succeed.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

My experience with watching lots of QBs, is they seldom make marked improvements in the basics that Sellers is failing at.
Either you're accurate or you're not. Either you "see" the field of you don't.
How many QBs have we seen that try to get "fixed", but just aren't elite throwers? Remember Tebow? I'm sure there are many more.

You don't compete for any kind of playoff without a good pass thrower. Beamer is delusional.

I remember Tebow winning two national championships and a Heisman trophy. Sellers?

 

[18IsTheMan]

Many think Miami is targeting Sellers for next year.Say what you will about Miami but they seem to give their QB a chance to succeed.

Nobody actually thinks that. One commentator speculated that Miami could be interested. I posted the link to the comments on here.

 

[HI Cock1]

If there's a new OC (not Furrey), it will be an open competition.

 

[Go Gamecocks]

I remember Tebow winning two national championships and a Heisman trophy. Sellers?

And bombing in the NFL because of his passing. He was a great passer in college....so yea, what happened?

 

[Lurker123]

And bombing in the NFL because of his passing. He was a great passer in college....so yea, what happened?

Was he a great passer in college? Or was it just complimentary to the spread option and his running?

 

[Viennacock]

If Beamer can hire an elite OC and rebuild the offensive line, I think Sellers can be elite. All of the mistakes he is making is 100% coaching. Let's be honest, if he returns, I don't think there is any real QB competition. He would be a 3rd year starter.

I have been singing the same song. This is on the coaches. Agm

My experience with watching lots of QBs, is they seldom make marked improvements in the basics that Sellers is failing at.
Either you're accurate or you're not. Either you "see" the field of you don't.
How many QBs have we seen that try to get "fixed", but just aren't elite throwers? Remember Tebow? I'm sure there are many more.

You don't compete for any kind of playoff without a good pass thrower. Beamer is delusional.

Josh Allen says hello. If you remember, accurately was the reason he wasn't drafted higher.

 

[Sleepyhead]

And bombing in the NFL because of his passing. He was a great passer in college....so yea, what happened?

To be fair no one was really all that high on Tebow as an NFL prospect. One of the worst releases I might have ever seen. I think a lot of people expected him to struggle in the NFL because of the talent level. A college legend though. Sellers was being talked about as a possible #1 overall so I don’t like the comparison in regards to this conversation.

 

[adcoop]

In today's landscape, you have to treat your resources like a professional franchise. So, if you are bringing Sellers back, you are bringing him back to be the starter. You are not going to commit a significant portion of your NIL resources for a guy to compete as a starter. That doesn't mean that Sellers should complete next season as the starter. If the uneven play persists, you have to go to someone else. If Beamer doesn't believe in Sellers as the starter, we shouldn't commit those resources for him to come back.

 

[I4CtheFuture]

Many think Miami is targeting Sellers for next year.Say what you will about Miami but they seem to give their QB a chance to succeed.

I can understand the rumors but if I'm being 100% honest, I think Sellers at QB for them would be a downgrade.

My point? I don't think Miami has to downgrade for a QB. If they are hell bent on getting a QB in the portal, they can do better than Sellers. JMHO.

 

[Ole Cockeye]

I think Beamer tells / has told Sellars if he returns, he WILL be the starter next year. 1> May be the only way he returns 2> If he returns, we're no doubt paying him, and who / what coach wants to see your million-dollar-man sitting the bench (even *IF* someone else on the team is better)
I agree though; Next spring, there should be an all-out, wide-open competition for the QB position. Bad thing there is, I'm sure LS "practices well"..... But then we've all seen how he's played this season without a yellow jersey. And we all also know that how you practice > how your play in the game(s).

If Beamer wants to keep his job, he'd better play the best QB, whether that's Sellers or not!

 

[Go Gamecocks]

To be fair no one was really all that high on Tebow as an NFL prospect.

Yep...he was a perplexing prospect. His CFB stats for '08 & '09 were some of the best in the nation, but he was also playing on some great teams.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

And bombing in the NFL because of his passing. He was a great passer in college....so yea, what happened?

I'll take two national championships and a Heisman over a former player's NFL career for $1000 Alex.

 

[Rob Hawk]

The perfect storm for Beamer. 3-9 and all bets are off. First he needs to win out. Then he has to get the OC hire right. With all the coaching changes going on somewhere out there is a decent OC for hire. Who knows what Sellers will do after that. If he stays I would assume they spend a decent amount of NIL money for him so one would think the starting job is his. I wouldn't think he sticks around if that's not a guarantee.

 

[Builderman]

I believe Furry is our best bet for Oc. After hearing his presser I walked away very impressed.
he is headed to being a OC somewhere and then a HC.
we were beat by refs at A&M.
one example: when we had them on the half yard line, there there right tackle held our D lineman badly, he had him in bear hug, that’s a safety and our ball. Then on the same play called a VERY questionable pass interference. They held Stewart practicably every play.
please watch. No way where they SEC gonna allow us to beat them.
just my opiinoin.

 

[Lurker123]

I believe Furry is our best bet for Oc.

That would be an incredibly Shane thing to do.

Promote from within a struggling staff.

Well, the guy coached WR's in the NFL, so he checks that box. I'd say chances are good he is the next OC.

 

[kidrobinski]

I believe Furry is our best bet for Oc. After hearing his presser I walked away very impressed.
he is headed to being a OC somewhere and then a HC.
we were beat by refs at A&M.
one example: when we had them on the half yard line, there there right tackle held our D lineman badly, he had him in bear hug, that’s a safety and our ball. Then on the same play called a VERY questionable pass interference. They held Stewart practicably every play.
please watch. No way where they SEC gonna allow us to beat them.
just my opiinoin.

I agree with your assessment of Furrey; he won’t be considered though. The pitchforks want a sexy hire, and that’s understandable.

I’ve stopped getting upset about officiating. The play you cite, you have one occurrence that absolutely should be called and another that was a call that did not need to be made. You had the one where I think it was their first TD, diving catch in the end zone, belly flop on the ball, no question, no review, just touchdown. If that was us, and the officiating naysayers know this as well as anyone, if that was us they would have reviewed from six different angles until they found something they could hang their hat on as a no catch. Until there is some avenue of legitimate accountability for these guys it will continue; the bigs get bigger and that’s what the league wants, need those playoff appearances.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I believe Furry is our best bet for Oc. After hearing his presser I walked away very impressed.
he is headed to being a OC somewhere and then a HC.
we were beat by refs at A&M.
one example: when we had them on the half yard line, there there right tackle held our D lineman badly, he had him in bear hug, that’s a safety and our ball. Then on the same play called a VERY questionable pass interference. They held Stewart practicably every play.
please watch. No way where they SEC gonna allow us to beat them.
just my opiinoin.

This can't be a serious post.

 

[18IsTheMan]

That would be an incredibly Shane thing to do.

Promote from within a struggling staff.

Well, the guy coached WR's in the NFL, so he checks that box. I'd say chances are good he is the next OC.

Right? Unlike as alleged above, we don't want a sexy hire. We know we can't get a sexy hire. What we want, and what is attainable, is someone who has demonstrated competence as an OC at the collegiate level.

Call me crazy, but I don't think that's a terribly big ask.

 

[Lurker123]

This can't be a serious post.

There is a logic to it.

1. He has the all important NFL experience that can be sold.

2. He gave a good interview. He may as well have said that he really wants to be here.

3. The most logical reason? Shane will probably struggle to attract good candidates, and settle for promoting from within. He'll cite the NFL experience and say it helps retain the recruits and current players to have someone who was already on the staff.

 

[18IsTheMan]

There is a logic to it.

1. He has the all important NFL experience that can be sold.

2. He gave a good interview. He may as well have said that he really wants to be here.

3. The most logical reason? Shane will probably struggle to attract good candidates, and settle for promoting from within. He'll cite the NFL experience and say it helps retain the recruits and current players to have someone who was already on the staff.

Oh, yeah, I don't doubt it from that angle.

But I can't believe that a poster actually believes Furrey is our absolute best option on the weight of one good half of football and one presser.

 

[Lurker123]

Right? Unlike as alleged above, we don't want a sexy hire. We know we can't get a sexy hire. What we want, and what is attainable, is someone who has demonstrated competence as an OC at the collegiate level.

Call me crazy, but I don't think that's a terribly big ask.

The "sexy hire" is an old whine with little basis in reality. The "just someone who has run a competent offense" and "we should get a guy from a smaller school that is up and coming" comments have been repeated often enough that you have to be intentionally ignoring them to complain about people wanting a sexy hire.

Given the source, that is exactly what is happening. Whining and seeking attention is all that coment looks like to me.

 

[18IsTheMan]

The "sexy hire" is an old whine with little basis in reality. The "just someone who has run a competent offense" and "we should get a guy from a smaller school that is up and coming" comments have been repeated often enough that you have to be intentionally ignoring them to complain about people wanting a sexy hire.

Given the source, that is exactly what is happening. Whining and seeking attention is all that coment looks like to me.

Right. Aside from a few "wishing upon a star" posts, I can't recall anyone really pushing an elite OC hire. Basically, we all just want someone who has called plays in college. I guess in a way that seems sexy compared to our previous 2 hires.