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Texas A&M Boosters Spent Unfathomable Amount Of Money To Land No. 1 Recruiting Class, Per Report

Getty Image / iStockphoto Head coach Jimbo Fisher and the Texas A&M Aggies signed one of the best recruiting classes of all-time this year. To do so,

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Texas A&M Boosters Spent Unfathomable Amount Of Money To Land No. 1 Recruiting Class, Per Report​

 

[AdamOnFirst]

Texas A&M Boosters Spent Unfathomable Amount Of Money To Land No. 1 Recruiting Class, Per Report

Getty Image / iStockphoto Head coach Jimbo Fisher and the Texas A&M Aggies signed one of the best recruiting classes of all-time this year. To do so,

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Texas A&M Boosters Spent Unfathomable Amount Of Money To Land No. 1 Recruiting Class, Per Report​

Why? I love it, NU should do it.

 

[Hungry Jack]

Well, this is incredible given where things were just a few years ago. And fairly terrifying for fans of schools like NU, or Iowa, Wisconsin, BC, Virginia, Duke, Utah, Mizzou, Iowa State, Miami, etc. (these are all programs that at times have had moments in the spotlight, but have to compete hard for good players and generally need to develop superior teams, rather than simply reload).

But I have my doubts as to how sustainable this is in the long run. My suspicion is that well-heeled donors may tire of this strategy in due time, especially if the portal accelerates the dilution of recruiting classes when top players don't immediately see the field.

But more importantly, I am not sure the working class plebians of the P5 football world will stand idly by as a handful of programs set up shell companies to buy players. There will be a strong response to the stuff going on in College Station.

Of course, Pat Ryan has more money than god and could endow an LLC or foundation with enough financial assets to compensate players. 85 schollies at $50,000 per year (just spitballing) is $4.25 million, which is 4.25% of a $100 million principal. That's a bit high of an annual draw, so maybe a $200 million endowment of a player fund is more like it. But regardless, $200 million is not a lot for a guy like Pat Ryan.

 

[phatcat_rivals223240]

Well, this is incredible given where things were just a few years ago. And fairly terrifying for fans of schools like NU, or Iowa, Wisconsin, BC, Virginia, Duke, Utah, Mizzou, Iowa State, Miami, etc. (these are all programs that at times have had moments in the spotlight, but have to compete hard for good players and generally need to develop superior teams, rather than simply reload).

But I have my doubts as to how sustainable this is in the long run. My suspicion is that well-heeled donors may tire of this strategy in due time, especially if the portal accelerates the dilution of recruiting classes when top players don't immediately see the field.

But more importantly, I am not sure the working class plebians of the P5 football world will stand idly by as a handful of programs set up shell companies to buy players. There will be a strong response to the stuff going on in College Station.

Of course, Pat Ryan has more money than god and could endow an LLC or foundation with enough financial assets to compensate players. 85 schollies at $50,000 per year (just spitballing) is $4.25 million, which is 4.25% of a $100 million principal. That's a bit high of an annual draw, so maybe a $200 million endowment of a player fund is more like it. But regardless, $200 million is not a lot for a guy like Pat Ryan.

Agree on the amount but he wouldn't need to endow the fund in perpetuity, none of us know about 10-20 years from now re: what the playing field will be like. He just needs to plan to spend that amount on NIL for an indeterminate amount of years (say 5) until this shakes out.

Also to quibble a bit more, I'd set aside the amount but not say '50k per scholarship' because some kids simply won't be able to demand that much, even on scholarship. More like 100k for the top 10 kids per class, the rest, whatever.

I'd rather spend the money on the players than on a stadium reno. Or at least a big part of it. Also can we give Collins or his successor an amount to be able to attract 2 top recruits a year, just so we don't suck at MBB?

Final nit to pick, unless you mean Miami U and not U Miami - those guys have enough money to do an NIL program, notwithstanding the size of the undergraduate population. I hope they fail, but they won't.

 

[AdamOnFirst]

Well, this is incredible given where things were just a few years ago. And fairly terrifying for fans of schools like NU, or Iowa, Wisconsin, BC, Virginia, Duke, Utah, Mizzou, Iowa State, Miami, etc. (these are all programs that at times have had moments in the spotlight, but have to compete hard for good players and generally need to develop superior teams, rather than simply reload).

But I have my doubts as to how sustainable this is in the long run. My suspicion is that well-heeled donors may tire of this strategy in due time, especially if the portal accelerates the dilution of recruiting classes when top players don't immediately see the field.

But more importantly, I am not sure the working class plebians of the P5 football world will stand idly by as a handful of programs set up shell companies to buy players. There will be a strong response to the stuff going on in College Station.

Of course, Pat Ryan has more money than god and could endow an LLC or foundation with enough financial assets to compensate players. 85 schollies at $50,000 per year (just spitballing) is $4.25 million, which is 4.25% of a $100 million principal. That's a bit high of an annual draw, so maybe a $200 million endowment of a player fund is more like it. But regardless, $200 million is not a lot for a guy like Pat Ryan.

I know plenty of Iowa fans who are extremely excited about this. They feel it’s an opportunity for them because the team amounts to the state’s primary pro sports franchise. They think they can consolidate the state’s sports dollars and passion more than other markets. Texas A&M isn’t exactly some traditional powerhouse in a prime location.

 

[loyolacat]

If you end up believing there is not chance to compete......and how would you say NU could compete with that Texas A&M group...because ..the horse is outta the barn, they have killed the golden goose,,,,jumped the shark ..I would encourage NU and other schools to find another way to compete, form another association,,,,join another association. etc. I am not an NU grad but a real fan since the 70s....Is it irony that Kain Colter was in someway involved in the start of this.... what a mess....

 

[Hungry Jack]

I know plenty of Iowa fans who are extremely excited about this. They feel it’s an opportunity for them because the team amounts to the state’s primary pro sports franchise. They think they can consolidate the state’s sports dollars and passion more than other markets. Texas A&M isn’t exactly some traditional powerhouse in a prime location.

Yeah, Iowa may not be a great example. No pro sports teams to compete for the fan dollar.

 

[DarthCat]

But we have internships!!!!

 

[bringbacktherantboard]

Yeah, Iowa may not be a great example. No pro sports teams to compete for the fan dollar.

Alabama, Clemson, Oklahoma (although I guess they have an NBA team now in their state)

 

[Eurocat]

Will Title IX mean that if we pay football players 150,000 a year that we have to play all the athletes the same amount? All sports and both male and female? I don't think even a Texas can afford to pay 150,000 a year for their swimming, diving, volleyball and track and field team for example. Cheerleaders are sometimes on scholarship too.

 

[bringbacktherantboard]

Will Title IX mean that if we pay football players 150,000 a year that we have to play all the athletes the same amount? All sports and both male and female? I don't think even a Texas can afford to pay 150,000 a year for their swimming, diving, volleyball and track and field team for example. Cheerleaders are sometimes on scholarship too.

Since the schools aren't officially paying the NIL money, then no.

 

[JT2311]

Will Title IX mean that if we pay football players 150,000 a year that we have to play all the athletes the same amount? All sports and both male and female? I don't think even a Texas can afford to pay 150,000 a year for their swimming, diving, volleyball and track and field team for example. Cheerleaders are sometimes on scholarship too.

I believe it only means that men’s and female athlete need to be afford the same NIL opportunities. If a school allows a football player to appear in his uniform then they would have to do the same for say a softball player.
Now could it come into issue if schools aren’t working enough to create the same type of opportunities, then maybe it is an issue but I don’t really know.

 

[JT2311]

This is a good mini thread on the first signing day with NIL and the impact on the top 10 players. 4 schools that didn’t have a top 10 player from 2018-2021 signed one this cycle and only 1 school signed more than 1.
Mizzou as mentioned above just signed their best recruiting class in school history. NIL helped them keep Luther Burden and they aren’t exactly rolling in the cash.

NIL is still in its very early stages and is the Wild West. Eventually it’ll settle down. The elite of the elite prospects will continue to get big offers but a majority of recruits will not. The combination of NIL and the portal means that we can’t afford these massive down years and can’t afford to keep incompetent coaches on staff. I don’t get why so many on here want to just throw there hands up say we can’t compete and move to the Ivy League/down a level.

 

[AdamOnFirst]

This is a good mini thread on the first signing day with NIL and the impact on the top 10 players. 4 schools that didn’t have a top 10 player from 2018-2021 signed one this cycle and only 1 school signed more than 1.
Mizzou as mentioned above just signed their best recruiting class in school history. NIL helped them keep Luther Burden and they aren’t exactly rolling in the cash.

NIL is still in its very early stages and is the Wild West. Eventually it’ll settle down. The elite of the elite prospects will continue to get big offers but a majority of recruits will not. The combination of NIL and the portal means that we can’t afford these massive down years and can’t afford to keep incompetent coaches on staff. I don’t get why so many on here want to just throw there hands up say we can’t compete and move to the Ivy League/down a level.

Chaos is a ladder.

 

[StreamCat]

Chaos is a ladder.

I have that bit of wisdom on a poster that depicts a cute kitten climbing that ladder. Unfortunately for the adorable little rascal, there is a drooling grizzly bear waiting for him at the top.
Now that’s chaos.

 

[Sheffielder]

I tend to agree with those who suggest this is not sustainable. However, I also agree we are in the very early stages of what this all looks like, and I fear the point at which programs/boosters optimize their efforts. Eventually we'll maybe see caveats that keep players in bowl games they'd otherwise opt out of. I'm sure we'll also see kids who thought they were getting $5M for signing get a fraction of that when they don't start, and get pushed out the door.

As I've said elsewhere, I think NIL will yield a realignment of college sports in the next 10 years or so. Instead of FBS and FCS we will see something similar, but one set of schools will apply no restrictions on recruiting players with money, and the other set of schools will fine a way to play football and basketball more modestly - the good news for them is they will still be able to get TV deals and compete with peers who subscribe to the same limitations, whatever they may be. This may not necessarily be a bad thing - just a hard reset on separating programs. Let's be clear - we haven't been competing in the same sport with the same rules as Alabama for a long time, so splitting off organizationally from them may make perfectly good sense.

 

[PurpleFaze]

They will basically kill off college football. Once it turns into a mini-NFL I’d rather just watch the actual pros. At this stage NFL players may have more team “loyalty” lol.

Maybe in a few years the NCAA can institute a salary cap…

 

[Purple Pile Driver]

They will basically kill off college football. Once it turns into a mini-NFL I’d rather just watch the actual pros. At this stage NFL players may have more team “loyalty” lol.

Maybe in a few years the NCAA can institute a salary cap…

We we got $100 from everyone who either stops watching or threatens to stop watching, we’d have the most lucrative NIL program in the B1G.

 

[Sheffielder]

Again, I blame the NCAA, singularly, for this...which encompasses the leadership of that shell organization as well as the presidents and ADs who had the most influence and squandered it before state legislatures took control of the situation. My only hope is that college athletics actually do buckle underneath the weight of what is happening here and in doing so enables them to return to a more modest version of amateur-ish sports programs.

 

[Purple Pile Driver]

Again, I blame the NCAA, singularly, for this...which encompasses the leadership of that shell organization as well as the presidents and ADs who had the most influence and squandered it before state legislatures took control of the situation. My only hope is that college athletics actually do buckle underneath the weight of what is happening here and in doing so enables them to return to a more modest version of amateur-ish sports programs.

The Genie is already out of the bottle. Not going back. As some have suggested you may see a tier situation of have and have not’s. That would not be the end of the world as we have de facto had that for decades anyways.

 

[Sheffielder]

The Genie is already out of the bottle. Not going back. As some have suggested you may see a tier situation of have and have not’s. That would not be the end of the world as we have de facto had that for decades anyways.

Exactly. To be honest I've never hoped or cared about Northwestern winning a national championship. I'm perfectly fine with rooting for a more modest program where students work extra hard to play organized football, and we compete against like-minded programs with similar values...so what we're seeing now and the potential endgame isn't necessarily a bad thing.

 

[phatcat_rivals223240]

The Genie is already out of the bottle. Not going back. As some have suggested you may see a tier situation of have and have not’s. That would not be the end of the world as we have de facto had that for decades anyways.

My friend used to say that NHL Canada hockey had Montreal and Toronto, the Habs and the Hab-nots