All FB fans should boycott the FB program. All games. All merchandise. Everything. Not another dime should be spent supporting a program that isn’t even trying to compete. We have to do better. We should demand it.
If UK and Barnhart prioritizes MBB over FB in revenue sharing…
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Each program should take the share of revenue they create.
Imo I don't think it will be fb vs bb. I think it will be the cut he gives non revenue sports that will really hurt.
Imo I don't think it will be fb vs bb. I think it will be the cut he gives non revenue sports that will really hurt.
I said in another thread. I will give up and no longer be a fan. It shows the UKAA is not interested in having a quality football team.
I thought that coming out of the judgement the figures were 75% football, 15% basketball, then everything else.
UK hasn't released its numbers yet. Most the SEC schools have already released the numbers. I believe Mitch is scared to release them.
I was just going by published reports...which I suppose are averages. Using those numbers it breaks down this way:
20 million dollars. 75 % going to football with 100 players equals 150 thousand dollars.
In basketball15 % going to 15 players is 200 thousand each.
Thos is above and beyond scholarship, food and housing etc. Also not inclusive of individual NIL.
It boils down to athletes will be paid employees of the University.
20 million dollars. 75 % going to football with 100 players equals 150 thousand dollars.
In basketball15 % going to 15 players is 200 thousand each.
Thos is above and beyond scholarship, food and housing etc. Also not inclusive of individual NIL.
It boils down to athletes will be paid employees of the University.
I saw an interview with Mitch and he said the numbers are NOT fixed and this gives UK the flexibility to change the ratios year to year as needed.
There are two pots of money. First pot goes to athletes from back to 2016. This money will be divided approximately 75% to former fb players, 15% to former bb players, rest of other sports. In addition schools are allowed to share up to about 20m to current athletes. This is voluntary, IE schools are not required to do so. If a school chooses to do so, there are no restrictions on how the money is allocated per sport. This is the revenue sharing mentioned in the title of this thread. While several schools have announced how they plan on splitting to revenue sharing money, UK has not done so as i write this.
Many seem to think MONEY is the problem with our football program. I've been following Cats since the 60s, money is not the problem!
If money isn’t important to winning why does our basketball program need so damn much of it? Do you not think we could have a competitive roster with the same NIL payout as the MBB’s roster? 15+ million estimated. Our third string 2G is making more than our SEC starting QB.
Don’t tell me money doesn’t matter.
This revenue thing is just one piece of it. Schools are still gonna go crazy with NIL. UK basketball doesn't need a big chunk of the revenue to do well due to NIL. Likewise, UK football won't outbid all the top football programs due to NIL. People thinking this revenue thing is gonna change much n the football or basketball world anywhere are delusional.
It may help big east basketball the most honestly.
It may help big east basketball the most honestly.
Guess marrow leaving says alot about what theyre being told in private.
How can anyone recruit without a set revenue share? Everyone else has it.
How can anyone recruit without a set revenue share? Everyone else has it.
He has always done that. Yes we made football improvements to be competitive because the bucket is so big but we spend worse relative to competition than we do in most other sports
It’s an indication of priorities, or the lack there of. BB is our crown jewel, no doubt, but only contributes about 15% of our athletic’s departments total revenue. 85% of our total revenue comes from FB. If you choose to split that revenue up in an irregular fashion as compared to the rest of the SEC, you’re stating the football program, and it’s fans, is nothing more than a means to finance your MBB program. And even more damning, winning isn’t your priority when it comes to FB. All the pomp and circumstance surrounding the program, meant to display the commitment to it, will be revealed for exactly what it always has been, lip service. And that ugly truth, long downplayed, will be there in black in white for all to see, undeniable.
I'm fine with doing the same allocation as rest of sec. It's not gonna matter on the field though. No one is outbidding osu and Alabama and Georgia and UT and on and on. They will still buy the best players with NIL.
It is important but it is NOT the reason UK has had a sub par football program for 70 years.
UK has the fanbase and the revenue to compete at a level that would keep fans happy. We had that during the Pawpaw Brooks and Benny Snell eras. Sustaining success while our admin accepts mediocrity is to blame...I am not just blaming Mitch.
ironically, Mitch Barnhart has put more emphasis on the football program than any other UK Athletics Director in history. That is why our football history is embarrassing.
I hope MB sells the FB program to private equity for 200 million and gives that money to Pope. Or at least a small stake worth an active role and couple board seats.
Let’s see how long mediocrity and everyone lasts with Bill Ackman, Elliott Management, Citadel, Berkshire, etc types are running the show.
Let’s see how long mediocrity and everyone lasts with Bill Ackman, Elliott Management, Citadel, Berkshire, etc types are running the show.
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what do you mean by prioritize? Football will get the majority share but they will do what it takes to keep UK basketball at a title competitive level as they should. you might not love basketball but the VAST majority of us in BBN love basketball
You actually think if we paid more for Manning then Texas, he would come?
Some ppl care about being coached too
I’m for both sports But I don’t think in UK’s case football produces 85 % of the revenue. I think it’s more like 60/40 due to the fact we have the largest arena and fanatical fans , more valuable radio and TV networks. In our case it’s hard not to justify Basketball getting a pro rata share of what they produce . And in this case is it definitely not anywhere near 15 % . Much greater .
I've said this before, but in the era of NIL and the fact that Kentucky ranks at the bottom of the SEC in terms of financial support for athletics, we are pretty much screwed in football imo.
We need a fundraising-focused AD, like yesterday. If that doesn't happen, I think we have to be honest with ourselves and look at our priorities. Would you rather pump money into football to maybe get the occasional 10 win season when other programs have down years, or shift more money to basketball to compete for championships? I'd rather be good at one, than mediocre at both.
We need a fundraising-focused AD, like yesterday. If that doesn't happen, I think we have to be honest with ourselves and look at our priorities. Would you rather pump money into football to maybe get the occasional 10 win season when other programs have down years, or shift more money to basketball to compete for championships? I'd rather be good at one, than mediocre at both.
I gave up on all of that when they started begging for money for their payroll so I'm already ahead of the game.
If UK prioritizes money toward basketball in that way--I'm out. If the school I graduated from wants to show other schools where we stand, then I want no part of it. I'm totally out on UK athletics. They won't get a moment of attention or a dime of my money.
I'm proud of my degree, but that's it. It's just too depressing. What really sucks is living in Lexington. I hate a ton of our basketball fans.
I love watching open wheel racing. That's probably where I'll spend my focus.
I'm proud of my degree, but that's it. It's just too depressing. What really sucks is living in Lexington. I hate a ton of our basketball fans.
I love watching open wheel racing. That's probably where I'll spend my focus.
Is this money spread out across the board to all FBS schools? Do MAC schools get the same allotments as SEC, B1G schools?
I think that’s a good idea. The rest of us who have supported for fifty years will be there instead. Thanks for the better seats!
Agreed. We could have 30 mil NIL and still wouldn't finish top 3 of the conference.
UK football success is cyclical. It's contingent on surrounding area recruiting cycles thriving with talent, coincided with a coach playing/selling a brand of football people want to be a part of.
Recruiting is down and Stoops has lost his zeal. Hire a new coach and build for 3 years, then UK football will have a shot to compete within the conference division.
You have to remember a lot of this money you speak of is given to a specific sport. A huge number of the donors are giving money to basketball and do not want it to go to football. I love the football program too, but if you ask 90% of people in this state to give money to one or the other its going to be basketball and lot of that is because of history and winning. Football has to produce on the field and the money will take care of itself. Its hard for fans to get excited when we can barely make a toliet bowl every year if we are lucky.
One thing I definitely agree with is that it’s a job that takes energy, aggression, and some degree of innovation/flexibility because it has never been a job where you can be asleep at the wheel going through motions and be productive. Current climate or prior it’s always been that way.
It will still be there but it gets much trickier because fair market value considerations will need to be honored and will be closely examined. The paying players to come play for Kentucky thing won’t be able to work the same way. However, an endorsement deal with a car manufacturer would work but needs to be approved by governing body.