Mike Steely put it like this… When you have a 30-year head start on the airwaves, you can put chimpanzees behind the mic and they’ll still get good ratings.
The Ref is doing really well so far as listenership and a growing audience. It’s a great radio network. For anyone out of state who has no idea what we’re talking about, get The Ref KREF app on your phone. Great OU coverage.