If you were the Agent of JQ, would you advise your client to return this year, based on where the UK team is at, or sit for remaining of year focusing on moving to NBA?
If you were the Agent of JQ
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Your question is one that I think many has but do not want to go there.
I have been thinking about this for some time now, wondering if he will just wait it out, go to the combines and show what he can do.
No matter what he decides, he will get the best treatment you can, get reps against others in a basketball situation, and get paid to recover.
This is what they call the 'elephant in the room" that no one wants to talk about.
As a UK fan, I hope the kid gets healthy and the competitor in him says "I am ready coach, put me in".
I have been thinking about this for some time now, wondering if he will just wait it out, go to the combines and show what he can do.
No matter what he decides, he will get the best treatment you can, get reps against others in a basketball situation, and get paid to recover.
This is what they call the 'elephant in the room" that no one wants to talk about.
As a UK fan, I hope the kid gets healthy and the competitor in him says "I am ready coach, put me in".
Scouts haven't seen JQ on the basketball court for a year. I doubt it's a smart move to continue sitting on the sideline until the NBA draft. There may be a calculation of whether solely participating in the combine or private NBA workouts will be sufficient, but his risk/benefit is probably better served by playing this season against real competition and showcasing his skill sets.
He'll play at least a few games IF their nba feedback is that he needs to show his return didn't subtract from his athleticism.
We just have to hope that's what they're hearing.
We just have to hope that's what they're hearing.
If he sits that will be the last I want to see of Pope. I pray it doesn't come to that. College basketball is consuming itself.
If the team is out of contention, I feel he may pull a Shaedon Sharpe and preserve his health and not lower his draft stock. NBA is a draft of potential.
They watched him play for several years in HS. Then watched him play almost a full regular season last year. At this point, they know what he is.
I would say it would be hard to blame the coach in these dark times of NIL and agent-guided (greedy) players. Unfortunately, the NIL is going to get worse and coaches will have almost no control until these schools start enacting contracts like the NBA, with performance-based metrics.
If he sits, that's hardly on Pope. JQ is not contractually obligated to step foot on the court. However if he's deemed healthy and ready to go, Pope simply needs to announce he is cleared to play and will be available on whatever date. At that point if JQ makes a decision that he is going to head to NBA workouts ahead of the draft and not agree to play college basketball, then he needs to be removed from the team and move on. If this transpires and Pope allows him to just linger with the team, I would disagree with this.
If it happens its 100% on pope. We undoubtedly paid a fortune to someone Pope knew for a fact could at best play half a season.
For all he knew, there would be a legit health set back that put him out all season.
So we paid huge money for at best half a season while driving away other recruits. So yes, if he doesn't play its 100% Pope's fault.
Thats a tough one. If he is actually 100%, I hope he plays. There is a possibility that he sits out but I think that depends on when he is cleared to go all out. If that time line is late January or later, shut it down. If it occurs within the next month, play. However, I have no idea what his agent is telling him. If he stays listed as a lottery pick, why play.
Kerr Krissa pulled a Shaedon Sharpe and could have come back at the end of last season but wanted to preserve his health, as he knew he was going to the transfer portal.
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If I'm JQ or his agent, I'm advising not to play until this team fixes a lot of things. This team looks so bad much of the time that it's going to make HIS game look bad and that's only going to hurt his draft stock. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if he walked away from the program if this doesn't fix itself fast.. and I wouldn't blame him really.
Playing on this team could hurt is draft position, so I would advise him not to play, and donate 85% of his NIL back to the general fund, if there is one still.
Pope could have taken half the money wasted on him and got another true PG, instead, he let his inner Calipari talk him into JQ for NBA draft clout purposes instead, and now it’s all blowing up in his face!
Pope could have taken half the money wasted on him and got another true PG, instead, he let his inner Calipari talk him into JQ for NBA draft clout purposes instead, and now it’s all blowing up in his face!
Thats a good point, we could/should be able to take some of that NIL back.
I dont think Pope tried to do what Cal did.. I think he actually thought JQ could come back in a relatively timely fashion. And maybe he still would be playing in two weeks IF the team wasn't such a mess.. but that does complicate things now. Also, other teams might have cooled on wanting JQ because of the knee injury, and that was how Pope was able to scoop him up.
If I were his agent I would know the NBA’s position on him and advise accordingly.
As a UK fan I say get in there!
As a UK fan I say get in there!
I think if he plays and the team does a major turnaround his draft stock goes up considerably. He should play if the docs say it’s ok .
He’s being paid for his name, image and likeness. Not for play.
Unless he violates that contract there’s no way anyone that paid him can get their money back.
Shaedon Sharpe drove a Porsche while at UK with NIL money and never played.
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Word on the street is he never plays and same for Lowe
If I were JQ's agent, I'm advising him to play "WHEN HE's PHYSICALLY READY". Why? Because I don't want him dropping in the draft because of the uncertainty, or because teams question his drive and competitiveness. It's not like he is a definite lottery pick, he is projected late 1st round. He's yet to demonstrate much offensive ability. So, he has somethings to prove that will help his draft stock.
Now Lowe on the other hand. If I were forced to bet, I would bet he doesn't play for UK this year again. I put that at about 40/60 odds.
Now Lowe on the other hand. If I were forced to bet, I would bet he doesn't play for UK this year again. I put that at about 40/60 odds.
He’s a first round pick either way. If we continue to falter then JQ will be expected to be the savior. That’s a tremendous amount of pressure to put on a guy coming off ACL surgery. It’s a very high risk scenario. I’d advise him to sit. The upside is if he plays well then he’s likely a lottery pick. Not worth the risk at all if it were me.
It is difficult to argue against this, as it is not that different from footballers who sit out meaningless bowl games.
I hope we can improve and be competitive enough for JQ to come in and help us for a stretch run. We'll see ...
As his agent, I presume I’d know whether he’s fully cleared and looking like his old self.
If he does, then I would have him play. If he’s ready to play by end of December but chooses not to, it probably creates a ton of annoying questions for me as the agent and significantly limits the ceiling on his draft position.
I expect he’s full go in practice to end the year with a return to the court one of the home games in January.
The immediate comparison I can think of for a noteworthy athlete would be Christian Watson. He tore his ACL Jan 5th and was playing again on Oct 26. That time frame would have JQ back next weekend. While I don’t think that happens out of an abundance of caution, I do think we’re not crazy far away.
January 10th at home vs MSU feels like the sweet spot to me
If he does, then I would have him play. If he’s ready to play by end of December but chooses not to, it probably creates a ton of annoying questions for me as the agent and significantly limits the ceiling on his draft position.
I expect he’s full go in practice to end the year with a return to the court one of the home games in January.
The immediate comparison I can think of for a noteworthy athlete would be Christian Watson. He tore his ACL Jan 5th and was playing again on Oct 26. That time frame would have JQ back next weekend. While I don’t think that happens out of an abundance of caution, I do think we’re not crazy far away.
January 10th at home vs MSU feels like the sweet spot to me
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If a player gets paid to play, NIL money, then he needs to be put in the same language as any other worker in the work place, and that is paid under workers compensation and go by their rules.
If they are hurt while playing at their current school, pay them 66 2/3 of their pay and hold them to the same rules any other workers has to do while off work on workers comp. If they are running around, practicing and such, then they can be held accountable under workers comp fit for work.
Now if they can work but not at their old job, then place them on light duty or say you don't have light duty and put them out and not allow them to practice if they are unfit to "work".
If they come in like Q did, then it is a old injury and no NIL until cleared to play.
If you are Lowe and re-injure a old injury, same as workers comp, pay them 66 2/3 and not allow them to practice, light weights run, use a school to prepare them for a big payday in the NBA.
If anyone on this board is hurt at work, you get 66 2/3 of you pay and you better not be caught out woking out like these kids are doing or you lose your pay.
If these kids want to get paid for playing, then they need to be held accountable like any other person who works for a living.
Use this time to get ready but to pay them full NIL money when they are hurt? No way. Treat them as if on workers comp.
If they are hurt while playing at their current school, pay them 66 2/3 of their pay and hold them to the same rules any other workers has to do while off work on workers comp. If they are running around, practicing and such, then they can be held accountable under workers comp fit for work.
Now if they can work but not at their old job, then place them on light duty or say you don't have light duty and put them out and not allow them to practice if they are unfit to "work".
If they come in like Q did, then it is a old injury and no NIL until cleared to play.
If you are Lowe and re-injure a old injury, same as workers comp, pay them 66 2/3 and not allow them to practice, light weights run, use a school to prepare them for a big payday in the NBA.
If anyone on this board is hurt at work, you get 66 2/3 of you pay and you better not be caught out woking out like these kids are doing or you lose your pay.
If these kids want to get paid for playing, then they need to be held accountable like any other person who works for a living.
Use this time to get ready but to pay them full NIL money when they are hurt? No way. Treat them as if on workers comp.
I genuinely think JQ plays, only time will tell.
Wish I had more confidence in Lowe.
Wish I had more confidence in Lowe.
I would advise him to play if healthy and able. If he plays and impacts the game like we know he can and we start winning, he would be seen as a difference maker.
I am trying to stay positive and hoping when he returns that it equates to other players performance improving. Hopefully we see a bump in rebounding and opening up the floor a little for shooters.
I am trying to stay positive and hoping when he returns that it equates to other players performance improving. Hopefully we see a bump in rebounding and opening up the floor a little for shooters.
If I were his agent, I would tell him to sit out. Get 100% healthy. We have an example of his potential play in Louisville's Pryor. Similar injury, surgery, and you can see he is not healthy after a year.
JQ, if he comes back, will need weeks of limited minutes to gain confidence and to avoid any setbacks. At that point you have to hope he can replicate at least half of what he did at ASU.
So, no I would not want him playing if I were his agent. I would take him to an NBA team that does not have a draft pick in this draft and have their staff examine his knee.
There is two forms of pay.... Nil and revenue share... UK has very little say over NIL.... But has everything to say over Revenue share..I do belive the 22 mil number being tossed around is a combination of NIL and Rev Share. From Google.
Yes, a school can set terms for its revenue share payments, such as performance-based criteria or a requirement for athletes to pay a buyout if they transfer mid-season. The payment structure can be a lump sum or installments, as long as it adheres to the school's policies and the new settlement rules. Each athletic department decides how to share the revenue, which is often based on performance or roster limitations, but the details are still being worked out in the new system.
School-set terms
Payment structure and rules
Yes, a school can set terms for its revenue share payments, such as performance-based criteria or a requirement for athletes to pay a buyout if they transfer mid-season. The payment structure can be a lump sum or installments, as long as it adheres to the school's policies and the new settlement rules. Each athletic department decides how to share the revenue, which is often based on performance or roster limitations, but the details are still being worked out in the new system.
School-set terms
- Performance-based criteria: Schools can set conditions for how revenue share payments are disbursed, such as requiring a player to compete in a certain number of games to receive the full payment.
- Transfer rules: A school can include a clause that requires an athlete to pay a buyout if they transfer mid-season. This is still a developing area, but some schools are beginning to implement such contracts.
- Distribution of funds: Schools have the discretion to distribute funds in various ways, such as spreading payments across all scholarship athletes or concentrating them in higher-revenue sports like football and basketball.
Payment structure and rules
- Payment timing: Payments can be made in a lump sum or in installments, according to the school's policy.
- Enforcement: The new settlement terms put the court in charge of ensuring schools adhere to the rules, and a special master may be appointed to rule on any disputes. The settlement also creates an appeals system for athletes to have their cases reviewed.
- Contract details: The specific details of the revenue-sharing agreements and their enforceability are still being established, with some legal experts questioning the long-term viability of some of the new rules.
This is true... but circumstances change with time and NBA teams sometimes seem to look for reasons to draft other players. Depending on the landscape and other players available in the draft, it may not be in JQ's best interest to leave any ambiguity about his status on the table.
Meh... JQ was brought here knowing he wouldn't play the full season, but the expectation he would in fact play when cleared. If he's cleared, and then refuses to play, that's on JQ. I will put it on Pope too if he tolerates JQ continuing to hang around, but refusing to play despite being medically cleared.
100 threads in accusing the boy of pulling a Sharpe. Hope you all line up to apologize when he hits the court
Also starting to question some of the NIL numbers being passed around.... At the end of Aug, NIL Go had only approved 40 Mil on NIL Deals, and had rejected over 3000 deals.. Many large. Collectives, 2 in the Sec have grown tired of the slow approval and lack of responce... As. of Oct there was 11 mil worth of NIL deals waiting for a responce... The report showed that the software that the schools, and players are to use is not very clear.... And millions in NIL deals are not being reported... From not knowing how, or they know they will get denied. Or they just don't care.... The two large collectives in the Sec are paying and basiclly daring the NCAA to do anything.
He's supposed to be tested Dec 13th.
He should be further cleared for additional activities if things go well.
A hard timeline should be established for JQ after this.
He should be further cleared for additional activities if things go well.
A hard timeline should be established for JQ after this.
Yes. Obviously, he needs to play. Unless you want to slide out of the lottery. Have you seen the draft prospects this year? I don’t think JQ can afford to play chess in the fall semester.
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It would be 100% on Pope if JQ refused to play and Pope didn't remove his *** from the roster.
I'm looking at what happened with Tennessee football and Jermod McCoy this year as a parallel. He got hurt in the Spring and never did play this year for them. But he's still projected as a 1st round draft pick. That concerns me with JQ if I'm invested in him playing. I get the timeline is different, and JQ has longer to recover. We'll see, I guess. I don't know what difference he makes on this roster, honestly. We need 4 more guys at his level.