We would have Stokes, Holt, and likely a All Sec Player too
Imagine Bruce Pearl at UK with 22 mil
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But would he understand the assignment since he didn't have any previous relationship with the school or state? This should be one of the biggest prerequisites when hiring a coach at UK.
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you guys realize Pearl did not recruit like Cal right? He brought in mostly 4 stars with the occasional 5 star
Pearl never coached at Kentucky. He'd get more than his fair share with our resources. Hell, maybe even a grill shaped like a mine car.
he started heating up at the end though, shareef cooper, jabari, tahaad, almost stole jasper from us
I don't think it's worth speculating about Pearl at UK. Even if the Pope era ends after next season Pearl will be 67 going into his first season. Do we really want to hire a coach in his final years on the job, who already retired once...?We would have Stokes, Holt, and likely a All Sec Player too
With that said I do think, if this doesn't work out with Pope, Kentucky MUST get someone proven this go-round. No more learning on the job, we need to know you've done it before. I think someone with Pearl/Oats' pedigree is the minimum--ie consistent success and at least a final four.
I would take Pearl at 67 yrs old. Give him 3 years and after that see if he is up for more.
Pearl was lined up, you can thank the “greatest UK AD of our lifetime” and president Cap for this mess. They wanted Pearl nowhere near the program and but a dead stop on it.
Absolutely. 67 is not very old at all these days.
…Now if a 73-year-old dude wants to come here and coach, you’d better be able to convince me he already won a title here and near enough two more.
Pearl would have given 5 years or so of unmatched passion and energy. Should have been the call. It was right and logical. Then see who had EARNED the opportunity to be next. No 12 losss a year coaches who had never won anything of importance.
You do realize that Bruce Pearl effectively made Tennessee and Auburn relevant in basketball?
This shows your youth, A- that is not true at all- I will give him more credit for Auburn because they had been up and down before him, but Tennessee has a long bball history before you and I were even born and B- that has nothing to do with what I said. He's a great coach, he not an elite recruiter who brings in top class after top class, he wins on his ability not 5 star recruits, that was the point. How about read for context next time? Good effort though
Before I was born they best they had ever finished was make it to the 2nd round (I'm 46). They went the majority of the 80s and 90s without even making the tournament. When he took over, they had not been to the tournament in 4 years. He made the tournament every year, with 3 Sweet 16s and 1 Elite 8. (The farthest they had ever made it in the tournament)
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Auburn was never up and down - they were always down. They had made the tournament a total of 8 times before him. He took them to the Final 4 twice. Again, the best they had ever finished, like Tennessee.
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Exactly. If you want Pearl, its for a fun style and a guy that can coach his *** off
Bruce Pearl will get what he wants if he became the coach UK donors would pitch in because it will be a 3 to 5 year sprint to a title
We have to be careful about what we say about Barney because this is getting to a point where he literally has full control of our athletic programs and he is allowing our basketball program to slowly deteriorate. He’s been at it for over a quarter of a century and he has succeeded he succeeded in tamping down expectations for our basketball program. The man needs to go immediately. This isn’t a laughing matter at this point it’s a lot of memes and and stuff making fun of the situation with Barney, but it’s to the point where the guy should be fired and honestly the president needs to go with them. It’s a big mess Barney has created our basketball program potentially will not survive Barney‘s tenure at. All of those expectations that have been built all of the success over the last 100 years and somehow this guy was able to come in and squat for a quarter century pulling crap like the nostalgia garbage with pope to brainwash Kentucky ends to accept his media mediocre effort. This must change this has to change or it’s over UK basketball will be over. It’s already over as we knew it, but I mean we’re looking at fighting to be a top 25 team not fighting to stay a top five team that’s Kentucky standard.
That sounds exactly like what everyone has always wanted from a HC at UK.
Not how it works going forward. Money either comes from the 22 million from the rev share (which basketball gets around 4 mil from) or it has to come from actual NIL deals.
Yeah and this roster isn't full of guys he would recruit. I don't care what they are ranked, Pearl can actually see talent and build rosters unlike the current coach.
Rev share and NIL are the ways players are paid going forward. That is why over the summer players were signing before that ruling took place to lock in their money.
He would have been my choice. But MB will NEVER even consider him. Unless MB goes, the next guy will be average at best, and another 2-3 years of average at best after Mark is gone would be a complete disaster for the program. But for folks thinking MB will suddenly go after a HR hire if he parts ways with Pope...there is a word for doing the same things over again and expecting a different result....
Dude had an SEC job, was rolling, making more than Pope at UK, and stepped away from coaching saying he couldn’t give it 100% anymore just months ago.
Not sure why his name continues to come up. I guess the thought is he quit on Auburn to set up his son but wouldn’t have done that at UK?
Not sure why his name continues to come up. I guess the thought is he quit on Auburn to set up his son but wouldn’t have done that at UK?
Next coach after that 3 years would be set up better and UK would look appealing like it should to the future coach..
The school cannot take donations and then pay that money. It has to (or is supposed to) come from a company paying for a commercial, for example. It cannot be, come to UK and we will give you 2 million. There is no cap on NIL deals besides what sponsors are willing to pay.
So, in theory, UK has partnerships with multiple entities, and UK itself is multiple entities. What stops them from funneling funds into those for "NIL" deals.
Also, from what I am reading, collectives are still allowed but with more oversight??
Tennessee is 34th all time in wins, they are not a chump program and have a deep history. You can argue all you want - there is more to a program than tournament finishes - for examples most UKs accomplishments are not recent. And I’ll say again you’re arguing a point I never made- at no point did I ever in the original or the follow up say pearl wasn’t an elite coach - so you’re debating yourself at this point
I love how you guys make up your own context lol, I never said he wasn’t a great coach lol
Say it louder for those in the back, somehow they take my quote as a pearl diss lol
You can attempt to skirt the rules in many ways but MB is our AD and we clearly have 0 recruits signed. JMI is playing a role, Pope is playing a role, new rules are playing a role. Even with all that money last offseason our best HS recruits were still just Kentucky kids.
But is that cheating? Are there rules that prohibited that specifically?
I mean, Mitch was our AD when Cal was coach and when Stoops was coach. I can assure you, most of our high profile players were not coming for free or because of their love of UK and KY. We were breaking rules then just like a lot of big programs.
You know there is a Pearl connection here?
Zach Tow’s father is a long time business partner with Chris Bowles.
Bowles played for Pearl at USI. Actually became D2 POY playing for Pearl.
It’s a stretch. But there is a connection.
And won an NC at USI.
Those games in the early 90’s between USI with Pearl and Ky Wesleyan with Ray Harper were epic.
Standing room only at the Owensboro Sports Center when those 2 hooked up.
That was when prop 48 was a thing and players had to sit out for transferring. But not to D2.
So you had pretty much D1 players with bad grades and transfers that didn’t want to sit.
Fast paced basketball. Both teams averaged about 90.
Ray Harper is every bit the coach that Pearl is. Never knew why he didn’t get the big call ups that Pearl got.
Bruce is or was a really good college coach. He could evaluate talent, he could recruit, he could in game coach, he could have his team ready to play each game, and he is retired. Bruce Pearl is NOT coming out of retirement to come to Lexington. I am not sure why we continue to talk about getting Pearl as our coach. We have Pope and probably for atleast one more year. I have one wish for our basketball program. That wish is, we don't get another coach until Barnhart is no longer our AD. We don't want to go through another Pope hire. We need a real AD before we even think about a new coach.