Interesting/exciting hire...but, 3 concerns

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I really like the Lamar Thomas hire. It's an aggressive, proactive move. However, I have 3 concerns...

1) UofL only has 1 Florida commitment, and it's from a low 2 star (unranked in a lot of places) DE, who was an early enrollee.

2) Their WRs have kind of sucked the last 2 seasons.

3) Andrea Adelson, one of the more respected ESPN writers (and not your normal Jurich cronie) is reporting that it's been kind of known he wasn't going to be retained this off season.

I'm hoping the lack of Fl commitments is a reflection of UofL's lack of commitment to Thomas.

And, they played a lot of freshmen WRs last season...the year before they lost Devante Parker to an injury for 1/2 the year, and Quick was grossly overrated. Perhaps N Petrino really was doing some coaching and that's why they weren't very good

Not sure about the ESPN report. There could be a number of reasons that someone is asked to depart. It doesn't always have to be for lack of performance.

Again, I like the hire. But, I'm going to curtail any over excitement until we see results. Am I wrong in being just a little cautious?
 
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3kidsandme

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I really like the Lamar Thomas hire. It's an aggressive, proactive move. However, I have 3 concerns...

1) UofL only has 1 Florida commitment, and it's from a low 2 star (unranked in a lot of places) DE, who was an early enrollee.

2) Their WRs have kind of sucked the last 2 seasons.

3) Andrea Adelson, one of the more respected ESPN writers (and not your normal Jurich cronie) is reporting that it's been kind of known he wasn't going to be retained this off season.

I'm hoping the lack of Fl commitments is a reflection of UofL's lack of commitment to Thomas.

And, they played a lot of freshmen WRs last season...the year before they lost Devante Parker to an injury for 1/2 the year, and Quick was grossly overrated. Perhaps N Petrino really was doing some coaching and that's why they weren't very good

Not sure about the ESPN report. There could be a number of reasons that someone is asked to depart. It doesn't always have to be for lack of performance.

Again, I like the hire. But, I'm going to curtail any over excitement until we see results. Am I wrong in being just a little cautious?
You sound like a Louisville fan trying to be passive aggressive. Am I wrong in being cautious of your post???
 

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So, I take it none of those things concern you. (trying to ignore the bball game and discuss football, but, as usual...unless you're a sunshine pumper, a legitimate discussion can not be had).

This reaction is exactly why I rarely post and only lurk.
 

zcats

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IF he works here 4 years and only brings in one Lamar Jackson he will have earned his keep. Good grief.
 

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There are legitimate concerns here to me as well. Chief among them is the character of the guy. We took the moral high road and didn't consider Honest Boob when he literally begged for the job but now we hire Lamar Thomas? Had to be somebody out there who could coach and recruit that wasn't this questionable character wise - just saying.
 

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I really like the Lamar Thomas hire. It's an aggressive, proactive move. However, I have 3 concerns...

1) UofL only has 1 Florida commitment, and it's from a low 2 star (unranked in a lot of places) DE, who was an early enrollee.

2) Their WRs have kind of sucked the last 2 seasons.

3) Andrea Adelson, one of the more respected ESPN writers (and not your normal Jurich cronie) is reporting that it's been kind of known he wasn't going to be retained this off season.

I'm hoping the lack of Fl commitments is a reflection of UofL's lack of commitment to Thomas.

And, they played a lot of freshmen WRs last season...the year before they lost Devante Parker to an injury for 1/2 the year, and Quick was grossly overrated. Perhaps N Petrino really was doing some coaching and that's why they weren't very good

Not sure about the ESPN report. There could be a number of reasons that someone is asked to depart. It doesn't always have to be for lack of performance.

Again, I like the hire. But, I'm going to curtail any over excitement until we see results. Am I wrong in being just a little cautious?

Can you verify #3

Not being retained and leaving are not always the same thing. Her tweet certainly is not as narrow as your portrayal of it if that is what you are going by.
 

3kidsandme

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So, I take it none of those things concern you. (trying to ignore the bball game and discuss football, but, as usual...unless you're a sunshine pumper, a legitimate discussion can not be had).

This reaction is exactly why I rarely post and only lurk.
If I am a sunshine pumper. Does that make you a Louisville fan a seamen pumper??
 

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I really like the Lamar Thomas hire. It's an aggressive, proactive move. However, I have 3 concerns...

1) UofL only has 1 Florida commitment, and it's from a low 2 star (unranked in a lot of places) DE, who was an early enrollee.

2) Their WRs have kind of sucked the last 2 seasons.

3) Andrea Adelson, one of the more respected ESPN writers (and not your normal Jurich cronie) is reporting that it's been kind of known he wasn't going to be retained this off season.

I'm hoping the lack of Fl commitments is a reflection of UofL's lack of commitment to Thomas.

And, they played a lot of freshmen WRs last season...the year before they lost Devante Parker to an injury for 1/2 the year, and Quick was grossly overrated. Perhaps N Petrino really was doing some coaching and that's why they weren't very good

Not sure about the ESPN report. There could be a number of reasons that someone is asked to depart. It doesn't always have to be for lack of performance.

Again, I like the hire. But, I'm going to curtail any over excitement until we see results. Am I wrong in being just a little cautious?

Not going to discuss 1 & 3 since that has been covered. As for #2 you are very wrong. The UL Wr's have pretty good this season. Unlike the UK guys they usually catch the ball and even Quick cut his drops way down this year. Also remember UL was playing all new Wr's this year other than Quick and most were true freshmen. The reason they don't have massive yardage is UL was playing a freshmen Qb with 3 freshmen starters on the Oline. We passed the ball less and ran much more than UK.

Really it does not matter since Thomas at best split time coaching the Wr's.
 
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Beatle Bum

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I really like the Lamar Thomas hire. It's an aggressive, proactive move. However, I have 3 concerns...

1) UofL only has 1 Florida commitment, and it's from a low 2 star (unranked in a lot of places) DE, who was an early enrollee.

2) Their WRs have kind of sucked the last 2 seasons.

3) Andrea Adelson, one of the more respected ESPN writers (and not your normal Jurich cronie) is reporting that it's been kind of known he wasn't going to be retained this off season.

I'm hoping the lack of Fl commitments is a reflection of UofL's lack of commitment to Thomas.

And, they played a lot of freshmen WRs last season...the year before they lost Devante Parker to an injury for 1/2 the year, and Quick was grossly overrated. Perhaps N Petrino really was doing some coaching and that's why they weren't very good

Not sure about the ESPN report. There could be a number of reasons that someone is asked to depart. It doesn't always have to be for lack of performance.

Again, I like the hire. But, I'm going to curtail any over excitement until we see results. Am I wrong in being just a little cautious?

Their WRs sucked? Staples? Parker? Rogers? I think they had 2 statistically better than any UK WR and their QB threw worst than ours.
 

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I think its a good hire. Its a position that needs some swagger and I think maybe he can get the WR confident and playing like the strong position group they should be. What happened to the Miami guy? Thought he oozed confidence and swagger. I imagine the QC will help the position as well. The violent/troubled past is a concern and he will need to be on a short leach so to speak.
 

Beatle Bum

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The UL fans' outrage and desperation has me convinced this is a great hire. I was not sure until I saw the threads and the obtuse excuses and the fake accounts. Now I am sure this was a good coaching move.
 

Dr. Faustus

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The UL fans' outrage and desperation has me convinced this is a great hire. I was not sure until I saw the threads and the obtuse excuses and the fake accounts. Now I am sure this was a good coaching move.
Their outrage is that they lost him to Kentucky. Our outrage should be that Kentucky hired him.
 

Dr. Faustus

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They are losing a lot this offseason. Sucky scene for them.
That's great I guess but really, we shouldn't care. We shouldn't compare ourselves to them in any way - we need to worry about winning conference titles. Do that and beating Loserville will take care of itself. Frankly dropping them entirely in all sports would be my preference.
 
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So, I take it none of those things concern you. (trying to ignore the bball game and discuss football, but, as usual...unless you're a sunshine pumper, a legitimate discussion can not be had).

This reaction is exactly why I rarely post and only lurk.
Get used to it if you don't see nothing but greatness coming from stoops it makes you a Louisville fan trolling the boards. My number one concern is that the guy has a very extensive criminal record. And people on this board (stoops apologists) say that Bobby Petrino was never an option and that Barnhart would never let such scum coach here when they come up with the argument that stoops was our best option because petrino was never an option, yet we let this guy here? My issue is since we hired this guy, why the hell didn't we hire petrino when we had the chance? No longer can our fans use the "MB would never hire such scum" argument now that this guy is here. So again, why is stoops coaching here when we could've had bobby petrino? Now that we made this hire our fans can no longer say the reason we didn't hire petrino was because MB would never hire such a classless SOB. That argument from this point forward is invalid which in turn means Petrino was the best option yet we went with stoops. Just sad IMO.
 

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Is there any other fan base that poses as fans of other teams as much as Uofl's fan base does? If you think about it, it's really creepy and makes you wonder about their personal lives.
Hell, One just created an account using my username. He's going around liking negative UK posts. He posted once and it should be good enough to get him banned. I agree man, creepy MF'ers
 

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Get used to it if you don't see nothing but greatness coming from stoops it makes you a Louisville fan trolling the boards. My number one concern is that the guy has a very extensive criminal record. And people on this board (stoops apologists) say that Bobby Petrino was never an option and that Barnhart would never let such scum coach here when they come up with the argument that stoops was our best option because petrino was never an option, yet we let this guy here? My issue is since we hired this guy, why the hell didn't we hire petrino when we had the chance? No longer can our fans use the "MB would never hire such scum" argument now that this guy is here. So again, why is stoops coaching here when we could've had bobby petrino? Now that we made this hire our fans can no longer say the reason we didn't hire petrino was because MB would never hire such a classless SOB. That argument from this point forward is invalid which in turn means Petrino was the best option yet we went with stoops. Just sad IMO.

Yep, another sad post.
 

Beatle Bum

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Is there any other fan base that poses as fans of other teams as much as Uofl's fan base does? If you think about it, it's really creepy and makes you wonder about their personal lives.

As much as any fanbase, they seem to be ashamed of their affinity to their school. I guess pretending be something other than a Card fan is as good as it gets for them.
 

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I didn't take too much issue with the OP, I'll try and be balanced in my response:

-The drivel from the UL fanbase on this is hilarious. It would be refreshing just for ONE person over there (or over here) to just say, "wow, it's kind of discouraging that we lost a coach to our rival even when we are perceived to have a better program and they are struggling to rebuild." None of them! It truly is groupthink.

-I think it's fair to ask how good a coach this guy is. I hadn't known him to be an "ace recruiter" in the way of Vince Marrow or some of these other guys in the business.

-If UK fans had said "oh he was just a recruiter, he can't coach", the UL fanbase would be calling us all racists as they like to do.

-Andrea Adelson has always been a UL sunshine pumper. It's also her slant to try and pump up the ACC as she is the ACC blogger. I don't give much credence to her opinion. Of course, she will say what the UL coaching staff feeds her.

I am in the middle on this. I don't think it has the huge impact that Rowland claims it has, but if I'm a UL fan, I certainly wonder how UK is holding its own with coaches and recruits (and in some cases, is even outperforming UL) even when UL has a five-game winning streak and better recent results. Have to wonder how much UK could dominate this series if it could ever get its act together.
 

Beatle Bum

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Thomas spent 2 years at UL and I do not recall one UK fan ever commenting about him, his past or his abilities. Likewise, UL fans praised him and never seemed to take issue with his past when he was at UL or with BP at WKU.

Now he is a UK coach and UL fans have relentlessly bashed him and are slamming him with his past.

And, the UL Ghost wants to call UK fans hypocrites. Hhhhhmmmmmm.
 
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