Iowa St…TJ Holtzenberger

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He seems to be a very good, possibly even great coach. As I said in another thread though, there’s a good chance he’s not available for any price. He’s spent most of his professional life at Iowa State, including when he started out as an assistant, and is married to one of the greatest players in the history of their women’s program. If he can build a championship contender there, which he clearly has this year, why would he leave all that for more pressure and less security?
 

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He seems to be a very good, possibly even great coach. As I said in another thread though, there’s a good chance he’s not available for any price. He’s spent most of his professional life at Iowa State, including when he started out as an assistant, and is married to one of the greatest players in the history of their women’s program. If he can build a championship contender there, which he clearly has this year, why would he leave all that for more pressure and less security?
Well, I guess it’s a matter of do you want to be at a blue blood program.

I’m not sure how long he’s been there, but I guess the question would be, do you want to move up to a higher profile program and make more money but have more pressure to win?
 
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He turned around ISU completely the first year he took over and they’ve been excellent ever since.

“Inheriting a program that went just 2-22 the season before, Otzelberger led a Cyclone team unanimously picked to finish last in the Big 12 Conference to a 22-13 record and the Sweet 16 of the 2022 NCAA Tournament.”
 
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Currently running Purdue off there home floor.

I really like the demeanor he demonstrates on the sideline.

I think that’s someone who I would look at as the next coach.

Also, would be a cheap buyout.
Ask that to Matt Campbell who just left ISU for PSU. He was at ISU for a decade and jumped at the PSU job when everyone else turned them down. Everyone assumed he was a lifer or whatever.
 

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Ask that to Matt Campbell who just left ISU for PSU. He was at ISU for a decade and jumped at the PSU job when everyone else turned them down.
I think most coaches who are at a mid program, want to get to a high profile program,be at in football or basketball.
 

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He would definitely be worth a phone call to gauge interest if they have to move on from Pope.

Sean Miller would be another. Recruited like crazy at Arizona. Solid X and O coach. Was highly seeded in the NCAATs.
 

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He has been dying for this job for years.
He has the swagger, the personality and the toughness to return this program where it belongs.
 
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Hard pass. The guy has a weird look. I can’t look at him without seeing this guy:
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If he can build a championship contender there, which he clearly has this year, why would he leave all that for more pressure and less security?
So true. It is going to take a different personality type in today’s environment and Barnhart ain’t hiring that type.
 

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He has been dying for this job for years.
He has the swagger, the personality and the toughness to return this program where it belongs.

Pearl could probably still kick any player on Ky's ***. I love the intensity he brings.
 

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He seems to be a very good, possibly even great coach. As I said in another thread though, there’s a good chance he’s not available for any price. He’s spent most of his professional life at Iowa State, including when he started out as an assistant, and is married to one of the greatest players in the history of their women’s program. If he can build a championship contender there, which he clearly has this year, why would he leave all that for more pressure and less security?
Again, why does this happen all the time? This is Kentucky. Coaches want the top jobs as does everyone else in every profession. They’re also competitors, winning at UK and taming the best means you are in history as the best. Also you’re famous for life here, you’re bigger than the governor. People in Iowa barely know who he is. It’s a huge perk for most of them. Everyone wants to be famous for the most part.

Average people have got to stop casting their psychology around to psychopathic competitors. This same stuff was said about Calipari. I remember when it was said by some about Pope becoming the coach at UK. “He’s Mormon, BYU loves him, it’s a dream for Mormons to coach there”. With Calipari “he’s got an NBA arena and no pressure. He’s already recruiting elite talent there. There’s no reason to come to Kentucky”.

Many more examples. And every time this line of thinking is wrong it just cranks back up the next hire. The way you avoid pressure is not how competitors do. They love pressure. We’re hearing this same crap about Oats right now. What did he say? He would love the pressure. That’s why these guys are where they are.

So non offense but we’ve got to stop doing this. Now some of them sure a few of them, but even with a guy like Scott Drew who was engrained and already won title who had zero pressure was on a plane to come here. TJ might love it there and still come or it might be a special case where he wants to stay put sure. But most of them will take that call. This is the Yankees or college basketball. This is the only state in the country where the basketball coach is more important than the governor. Yes they like that. It’s fame forever.

So just let this go. Kentucky is Kentucky, they want this job. I’d imagine Oats said what he said recently to let UK know to call. When he found out he wasn’t going to be offered jumped up to say he’s staying at Bama. He wasn’t offered. He’s been linking his name here for a while in interviews in one way or another.
 

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Nate Oates should be the first phone call
Second, third, 4th. You just don’t take a no unless you’ve put on all the press I mean taking John wall and boogie to meet the dude. Or some other tandem of all stars. You’re just not gonna win a natty at bama. Kentucky gives coaches that next level. 8 titles 5 coaches. Nate oates will be on that list if he comes to Kentucky
 

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Second, third, 4th. You just don’t take a no unless you’ve put on all the press I mean taking John wall and boogie to meet the dude. Or some other tandem of all stars. You’re just not gonna win a natty at bama. Kentucky gives coaches that next level. 8 titles 5 coaches. Nate oates will be on that list if he comes to Kentucky
For sure. Blank check situation
 

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He would definitely be worth a phone call to gauge interest if they have to move on from Pope.

Sean Miller would be another. Recruited like crazy at Arizona. Solid X and O coach. Was highly seeded in the NCAATs.
Miller is who I wanted from day one !!
 

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Again, why does this happen all the time? This is Kentucky. Coaches want the top jobs as does everyone else in every profession. They’re also competitors, winning at UK and taming the best means you are in history as the best. Also you’re famous for life here, you’re bigger than the governor. People in Iowa barely know who he is. It’s a huge perk for most of them. Everyone wants to be famous for the most part.

Average people have got to stop casting their psychology around to psychopathic competitors. This same stuff was said about Calipari. I remember when it was said by some about Pope becoming the coach at UK. “He’s Mormon, BYU loves him, it’s a dream for Mormons to coach there”. With Calipari “he’s got an NBA arena and no pressure. He’s already recruiting elite talent there. There’s no reason to come to Kentucky”.

Many more examples. And every time this line of thinking is wrong it just cranks back up the next hire. The way you avoid pressure is not how competitors do. They love pressure. We’re hearing this same crap about Oats right now. What did he say? He would love the pressure. That’s why these guys are where they are.

So non offense but we’ve got to stop doing this. Now some of them sure a few of them, but even with a guy like Scott Drew who was engrained and already won title who had zero pressure was on a plane to come here. TJ might love it there and still come or it might be a special case where he wants to stay put sure. But most of them will take that call. This is the Yankees or college basketball. This is the only state in the country where the basketball coach is more important than the governor. Yes they like that. It’s fame forever.

So just let this go. Kentucky is Kentucky, they want this job. I’d imagine Oats said what he said recently to let UK know to call. When he found out he wasn’t going to be offered jumped up to say he’s staying at Bama. He wasn’t offered. He’s been linking his name here for a while in interviews in one way or another.
That was probably true a couple of decades ago, but I’m frankly not sure that is anymore. I’ve seen multiple of your posts where your contention is that we could still have anybody we want except Barnhart is just that incompetent, but I would argue that there’s growing evidence that being a “blue blood” just doesn’t matter that much to coaches now.

Without getting into the bickering about who did or didn’t say no through back channels, we were very publicly rejected by Drew and Hurley before settling on an alumni with an underwhelming resume in Pope. Duke and UNC promoted assistants to their legendary coaches instead of having an open search, to very mixed results. UCLA is currently holding steady, but nothing more after their last hire was Mick Cronin. Indiana took their current guy away from West Virginia, where he was coaching a bubble team. I could probably list other examples.

I think the reason is that there’s a lot more parity in the modern era of sports. Just about everyone in a power conference has money for facilities and has their game on some kind of national TV. The recruits also care a lot more now about who can pay, who has the coach they like, and who’s been winning in their own lifetimes than who won championships in the 60s. Maybe there’s still some coaches who think they want all that pressure just out of pure ego, but I can’t see much evidence that it’s the majority of them now that being at those programs isn’t the built in advantage it used to be.
 
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