Iowa State notifies NCAA of sports betting allegations involving football players as gambling cases rise
The university says the investigation involves at least 15 athletes across multiple sports
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Iowa State notifies NCAA of gambling allegations
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I am afraid this is about to get ugly, real ugly.
After Bama had to fire their bball coach for giving inside info to gamblers
Only the beginning now that sports gambling is almost nationwide. College sport gambling involvement controversy will be regular occurrences.
Only the beginning now that sports gambling is almost nationwide. College sport gambling involvement controversy will be regular occurrences.
1. There was always a reason to prohibit gambling but freedom to do want you want prevailed and here we are
2. But why would a college athlete not be allowed to gamble on games his team was not involved?
2. But why would a college athlete not be allowed to gamble on games his team was not involved?
I agree on why would they not be allowed to gamble on games. I could definitely see not being allowed to gamble on any game involving the university they attend, maybe not allowing them to bet on games involving teams in their conference, or even not allow them to place bets on any games that involve the sport they play. I don't see the need to have them prohibited from betting at all. All those athletes are going to do is call up a friend of them and have them place the bets for them.
I. Allowing athletes to accumulate gambling debt is one way that bookies have historically gained leverage over them.
II. With gambling crises come a bunch of other more visible problems that harm the reputations of sports leagues (violence, substance abuse, etc.)
Iowa now also:
osc.uiowa.edu
Sports wagering investigation | Office of Strategic Communication
May 8, 2023 The University of Iowa and the Department of Athletics are aware of the sports wagering investigation and are fully cooperating. We have alerted the NCAA of the potential violations and we have hired outside counsel to assist in the investigative process. The athletics department...
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Head of Gaming Commission Says No Evidence That Iowa, Iowa State Games Were Compromised
Read about how the head of the Iowa gaming commission contends that there's no evidence that any Hawkeyes or Cyclones games were compromised.
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That is literally what the Bama baseball coach did.....and as a result he is likely to be completely banned from the sport at every level for the rest of his life.
If any sport lose the illusion to fans that games are legitimate competition where all are trying their hardest to win and results are not predetermined....it is game over.
That is why you will see schools/conferences bringing the sledgehammer down on these Iowa kids.
Fair point.....I guess if this is a reality then having widespread gambling nationwide on games..... seems like you had it coming
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Just a guess, but they probably know guys on other teams, friends with or maybe family. At best they could give each other inside info on injuries or incoming suspensions, at worst they could intentionally shave points or blow games to help t he other beat the spread. Kids are selling their services to the highest bidder, don't think they would have an issue betting against a bud's team when he knows it's a lock.
It's not the same IMO. I am saying a UK golf team member would get his buddy John to bet $50 on the Oregon/Oregon State football game not place a bet that could lead to hints of impropriety. As far as the Bama coach, there is nothing to suggest he asked the guy to place a bet for him. He did give him inside information about his own team. It certainly looks suspicious (and I believe the intent was nefarious) but the guy he called was reportedly the HS coach of the pitcher that was scratched so there could have been another reason for the call. I don't think there was but it is plausible.
Yeah, I'm shocked making the sport more about money would lead to something like this. Next think you know the we'll have players changing teams (notice I said teams not schools) every year.
We’re seeing lots of baseball, track and field and wrestling athletes getting caught up in this.
That tells you that this is a gambling issue and not driven by recent changes to NIL and transfer rules. The key driver is the recent and rapid explosion in gambling and how pervasive it is becoming.
The big open question at the moment - what is the exact nature of the student athletes’ involvement in this?
- Were they providing inside info to bettors?
- Were they betting on sports themselves, and if so, which sports were they betting on?
- Or, were they simply participating in fantasy leagues, which some might consider a much lower risk form of gambling?
Without some of those additional details, it’s difficult at the moment to say how bad this really is and I haven’t seen those types of details reported yet (may have missed it though).
For awhile now sports was more entertainment than fair competition. Tim donaghy was the end of that innocence. One must be inconceivably naive to think he's the only one ever.
Nowadays access to betting is exponentially more prevalent with exponentially more people standing to make massive profit. Then you have thousands of student athletes including many coming from economically depressed conditions.
All of it is a bad recipe for college sports in terms of actual competition.
Nowadays access to betting is exponentially more prevalent with exponentially more people standing to make massive profit. Then you have thousands of student athletes including many coming from economically depressed conditions.
All of it is a bad recipe for college sports in terms of actual competition.
Maybe that explains Brian Ferentz' ineptitude - he was betting on the other team and purposely trying to shave points! And, might I say, he was MASTERFUL last year.Iowa now also:
Sports wagering investigation | Office of Strategic Communication
May 8, 2023 The University of Iowa and the Department of Athletics are aware of the sports wagering investigation and are fully cooperating. We have alerted the NCAA of the potential violations and we have hired outside counsel to assist in the investigative process. The athletics department...
Totally agree.
And add in NIL money most are now getting-- money many never had before--and then add to that most of these athletes likely have no idea how to manage that money.
These things couple with the absolute ease of betting and the fact it's everywhere around us, as you state, makes this all a very perfect storm.
Not sure what you mean when you say “Tim Donaghy was the end of that innocence.”
The Black Sox scandal happened over 100 years ago. In college basketball alone, there were major point shaving scandals in 1950, 1979, 1985, and 1995.
Gambling issues in sports have popped up from time to time for as long as there has been gambling on popular sports.
Iirc that was the first ever official who admitted to game fixing. Sports went about 50 years with no betting scandals until donaghy. So yes....the overwhelming majority of thought was sports were clean with no issue.
Donaghy snapped people out of that false sense of purity.
But there was not a 50 year gap before Donaghy.
The Tulane scandal in 1985 was a big deal. The school president shut down the basketball program for 4 years because of it.
The Boston College scandal in 1979 was also a big deal. That scheme was set up through Henry Hill, who worked with the Lucchese crime family. The very same Henry Hill that was played by Ray Liotta in Goodfellas.
Gambling scandals were still regularly popping up every few years before Donaghy was caught.
Was donaghy the first official ever caught up?
I remember the smu deal too. There was always some degree of corruption but it was always supposedly isolated.
You can quarrel about semantics if you want (or what's major, if 38 is much different than 50 years, etc) but the point still firmly stands.
Donaghy should've opened many eyes into the corruption of officials but instead it's maintained he was the only one. When you watch games, especially basketball, and there are routinely one sided call that defy all explanation - people should ask questions. Is that merely inexplicably routine, dependable incompetence? Or is it a pattern of conduct?
Tulane was 22 years before Donaghy, not 38.
You also had the Northwestern basketball players that went to prison for point shaving during the 1995 season, which was only 12 years before Donaghy was caught.
Point being, if someone thinks Donaghy represented a new form of gambling corruption, then they haven’t paid attention to what’s happened in the past.
And the fact that Donaghy is an official is largely irrelevant. There are 3 categories of people who have sufficient influence on a game that they can be used for match fixing: 1. players, 2. coaches and 3. game officials.
Whether it’s a player shaving points or a referee, it doesn’t really make much difference. They are identical forms of corruption with the exact same outcome.
That's all this is about. Can't look into the officiating and administration of conferences and the ncaa. Have to find something just below that level and hammer it hard to keep up the illusion of competition, relevance, and control.