Is there any scenario we are not #1 overall?

uk78_rivals88018

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No. We would be the only top team with only 1 loss. But it evidently isn't going to matter because other than the first game being easy, we are going to have a tough 8/9, 4 seed, and Wisconsin. I normally would not want UL as our 4 because of the emotion of the game but they are an easier win for us than UNC again. So, being the top seed seems unimportant with the way they are doing the pairings.
 

Blueisbest

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Very, very, unlikely. The only chance of that happening would be if we laid an egg in our first game in the SEC tourney and Duke or Virginia were to absolutely dominate their tourney. Even then it is highly unlikely we would fall out of the overall #1 position.
 
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Wisconsin lost to Rutgers
Duke lost to 2 unranked teams
Virginia has lost twice and don't know if their best player will be back
Arizona lost 3 games on the road to unranked teams
Villanova has 2 losses and no victories better than UNC, UL, or Kansas
Gonzaga's best win is SMU at the beginning of the season

No way Kentucky isn't the top overall seed. Kentucky has 20 top 100 wins. More than anyone. 10 of those are top 50 wins.
 

JohnBlue

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Originally posted by brianpoe:
Yes, if we lose 3 times in the SEC Tourney...
 

Bardstown

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Will for sure will not be the number 1 seed. If the NCAA does not use the s curve. Just to say this team is the number 1 seed does not mean crap, the number 1 seed gets the worse number 2 seed, ect. ect.
 

kramer318

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Overall #1 is just a nice little title to have. The committee has shown countless times that this distinction has absolutely no added benefit whatsoever.
 

KWilt43atbuzz

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I'd hate to see what the committee would do if UK lost in the quarters of the SECT and Duke won the ACCT in a rout.
I mean come on we are talking about UK and Puke, the Committee would loooove to screw us while extending unjustified props to Ratface and company!

 

UKWildcats#8

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Originally posted by Kramer318:
Overall #1 is just a nice little title to have. The committee has shown countless times that this distinction has absolutely no added benefit whatsoever.
Yup. I've already posted my projected screw job bracket on Facebook today as a status so when it happens next week I can say "Told you so" to all my UK hating friends who think I am a conspiracy theorist on the committee stacking UK's bracket.
 

BoulderCat_rivals187983

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I suppose if Duke wins the ACCT, and we lose Friday it could happen. Not likely, but could. Still, what the heck does being the overall #1 mean anyway? If Duke gets paired with Gonzaga, and/or gets a weaker 8/9 matchup than UK then really they are the overall #1 even if the committee designates UK as such. They really need to think this whole geography thing over. If that takes precedent then why every bother designating an overall #1?
 

KWilt43atbuzz

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Originally posted by BoulderCat:

I suppose if Duke wins the ACCT, and we lose Friday it could happen. Not likely, but could. Still, what the heck does being the overall #1 mean anyway? If Duke gets paired with Gonzaga, and/or gets a weaker 8/9 matchup than UK then really they are the overall #1 even if the committee designates UK as such. They really need to think this whole geography thing over. If that takes precedent then why every bother designating an overall #1?
Bingo BC. It means nothing unless your guaranteed the lowest 2 at least!
 

UKWildcats#8

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Originally posted by BoulderCat:

I suppose if Duke wins the ACCT, and we lose Friday it could happen. Not likely, but could. Still, what the heck does being the overall #1 mean anyway? If Duke gets paired with Gonzaga, and/or gets a weaker 8/9 matchup than UK then really they are the overall #1 even if the committee designates UK as such. They really need to think this whole geography thing over. If that takes precedent then why every bother designating an overall #1?
It literally does not matter if UK is the #1 overall seed. They are going to Cleveland regardless I'd say, unless they put Duke in Cleveland if they were #1 overall and sent UK to the South.

That said, in no way does a 3 loss team trump a 1 loss team. So once again, zero chance UK does not get the #1 overall seed, but it does not matter as they will be put in the toughest bracket by far due to idiotic geographical considerations that in no way help the lesser teams being put in UK's bracket due to the power of BBN and the dominance of UK's basketball team (not in that order of course).
 

BoulderCat_rivals187983

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Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:


Originally posted by BoulderCat:

I suppose if Duke wins the ACCT, and we lose Friday it could happen. Not likely, but could. Still, what the heck does being the overall #1 mean anyway? If Duke gets paired with Gonzaga, and/or gets a weaker 8/9 matchup than UK then really they are the overall #1 even if the committee designates UK as such. They really need to think this whole geography thing over. If that takes precedent then why every bother designating an overall #1?
It literally does not matter if UK is the #1 overall seed. They are going to Cleveland regardless I'd say, unless they put Duke in Cleveland if they were #1 overall and sent UK to the South.

That said, in no way does a 3 loss team trump a 1 loss team. So once again, zero chance UK does not get the #1 overall seed, but it does not matter as they will be put in the toughest bracket by far due to idiotic geographical considerations that in no way help the lesser teams being put in UK's bracket due to the power of BBN and the dominance of UK's basketball team (not in that order of course).
Your post brings up a question I've been pondering. Like everyone else here college basketball is right now the foremost thing on my mind. Is it really much of an advantage to have a big "home" crowd at an NCAA game? Every team brings their best effort in every game, and every coach pulls out all the stops in an even relatively close game because they all know it's win or go home. UK fans could be 2/3's of the crowd for the regional final, assuming we make it of course, and I'm not convinced it would really help all that much particularly if we end up playing another legit title contender, especially a B10 team in the heart of B10 country. I don't fear Wisconsin or any team, but I'd like to see them slide into a one just to see who the committee would pair with UK. I'd bet it still won't be Gonzaga, and could be Maryland team, another B10 team who'd I seed as a 2 assuming they win today. I think with 7 losses KU should be out unless Maryland loses before a B10 title game with Wisconsin.
 

KopiKat

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Maybe . . . if we lost by 50 in our first SEC tourney game after WCS, Towns, and at least one twin suffering broken legs during pre-gram warm-ups, followed by a dominating performance by the Virginia Cavaliers in which each of their starters received honorary Duke Divinity doctorates at halftime of the ACC tourney finals . . .
 

blueberryfields

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Originally posted by Bardstown:
Will for sure will not be the number 1 seed. If the NCAA does not use the s curve. Just to say this team is the number 1 seed does not mean crap, the number 1 seed gets the worse number 2 seed, ect. ect.
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WildMoon

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Originally posted by BoulderCat:

I suppose if Duke wins the ACCT, and we lose Friday it could happen. Not likely, but could. Still, what the heck does being the overall #1 mean anyway? If Duke gets paired with Gonzaga, and/or gets a weaker 8/9 matchup than UK then really they are the overall #1 even if the committee designates UK as such. They really need to think this whole geography thing over. If that takes precedent then why every bother designating an overall #1?
um, there's no chance for UK to lose overall #1 seed.

Even if UK loses first round on SEC tourney and Duke wins ACC or Virginia for that matter.