Iwo Jima Documentary on KET

Tskware

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Came across this last night. Group of 90 year old veterans go back to Iwo Jima once a year for a solemn reunion with Japanese veterans (who were very few). Iwo is considered a tomb by the Japanese, only allow visitors ONE DAY a year, for this reunion. Given their age, 2015 looks like it probably will be the last one.

I knew very little about the battle except raising of the flag. Island is absolutely tiny, maybe 8 square miles, was strategically useful for airfield to bomb the home islands. One of the vets claimed that more lives were lost per square mile in a shorter period of time than in any battle in history (hard to believe that, Battle of Somme in WWI cost 60,000 British casualties in the first day, and gained less than a mile in many places). But still, it is a small volcanic ash heap but thousands of Japanese and Americans died there.

The Japanese veteran was badly wounded but saved by an unnamed GI, to whom he was eternally grateful. He too was there to remember and honor his comrades and said "I hoped they died to bring peace to the world, for if there is not peace, what then did all these thousands of my friends die for?"

The statue on the beach is written in English and in Japanese, and on both sides it says something like "It is hoped that the men who fought here will never be forgotten, but what occurred here will never be repeated"

Fighting was nightmarish, Japs were in caves, had to be burned out with flamethrowers, fought damn near to the last man. If I remember what they said last night, one third of all Congressional Medal of Honor awards in the Pacific, or maybe all of WWII were issued due to actions on Iwo Jima.

Leading up to Veterans Day, it was well worth the watch, highly recommend it.
 

parrott

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Will have to watch -- didn't realize it was on. If you haven't read Flags of Our Fathers, you should. Has to do with Iwo and lives of the men who raised the flag. The author's Father was one of those men.

The battle descriptions and atrocities are almost unbelievable.
 

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My grandpa fought on Iwo Jima. Exactly two people (in the family...he and my grandma) knew this before he was on his deathbed. The week of his death, he opened up a little bit about this. He spent more time in thought than he did talking.

A little peeved that we didn't have time to dig deep, but I have a feeling that's exactly what he wanted to avoid.

I'll have to dial this up.
 
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starchief

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My grandpa fought on Iwo Jima. Exactly two people (in the family) knew this before he was on his deathbed. The week of his death, he opened up a little bit about this. He spent more time in thought than he did talking.

A little peeved that we didn't have time to dig deep, but I have a feeling that's exactly what he wanted to avoid.

I'll have to dial this up.

My father-in-law fought in Europe in WW2. Never talked about it. We finally learned from him late in his life that he accidentally shot and killed a German civilian in the last days of the war. That ate him up in the closing years of his life.
 
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JDHoss

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My dad fought at Iwo Jima. I never knew that until recently, as my wife had gotten his military records for me (had to sign my name to a document that she wouldn't let me see what it was (how's that for trust?) because I was the only surviving member of the family) as a surprise present. He never talked much about the war, except that he hoped that me or my brother ever had to endure anything like that. He talked about how beautiful some of the places were, but that was about it. Looking at his records, there was time spent in the Soloman Islands, the Philippines, Guam, and Iwo Jima. In the paperwork was a picture of him. He looked like he was 12 years old. It amazes me that a man who went through so much horror and brutality, yet was a humble, kind man who raised me to always treat my fellow human beings the way I'd want to be treated. Going over those papers was a very emotional thing for me. Maybe even moreso than when he died.
 

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Can anyone grasp the fear that had to rumble in their guts, hopping in a DUCKU and floating slowly toward the enemy? Knowing they have prepared for many months and will, almost to a man, fight to the death.
Most of the Marines on Iwo had fought the Japanese and knew what they were in for. God bless those tough SOB's !
 

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On the other hand, the Japanese soldier did not just think he might die. He KNEW he was going to die - if not at the hands of the Americans, by their own hands. Each soldier was issued a grenade to take his own life after he could do no more.
 

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Just think Okinawa was weeks after Iwo Jima, it was as brutal as this.

I am not trying to start anything but the Greatest Generation would never utter a word about their heroics, you had grandfathers and uncles and kids of these who never knew what they did. I had uncles who was bombardier on B-29 in Pacific, other uncle was in Pacific and fought in Guam, Phillipines. My grandmother did not see him from 1942 until almost end of 1945, letter coming in blacked out and may get one every 4-6 months, she did not get a letter for one year and they had no idea if he was alive. These guys were heroes and almost nothing was uttered until they died and people going through belongings and purple hearts, citations, etc.. Band of Brothers was very soft spoken and shy, nothing showy about his generation. They had job to do.

I don't want this to sound bad or come across bad because the guys that have come back from the wars now are not the same, most want to write books or tell everyone that they were heroes or they were the guys who shot Bin Laden. Just a different generation. Guys now should be applauded as heroes, just a lot different.

Watched a show on PTSD and the affects on guys now and really Vietnam. These guys are sent home in a day. In WWI and II, these guys were put on a boat and did not get home for 2-3 months after war, gave them time to cope, speak to other GI's, and Dr.s who could help them sort out what hell they had been through for 3-4 years.
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I watched part of it. Very interesting.

I had a uncle who fought in Europe and one that fought in the pacific. Both never talked about what they did. All the uncle who fought in the pacific would do is curse the Japanese.

That PTSD though is so tough. A lady I worked with Son fought in Iraq. His unit had a group of kids throw grenades at them. They had to open fire. The last I heard, he was still not over it after years of professional help.

I just cant imagine the horror these people went through after seeing the agony that they are in now.