Jack Pilgrim late night update anybody?

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So in other words, he provided nothing new with that update but wanted to do something while he was on Cloud 9 and everyone else is too seeing Duke Lose. Got it. LOL

Well yeah.

But a lot of people seemed to think we weren’t going to pursue him, or we didn’t need another guard, or Washington already had him locked up, etc.

So he put a lot of that stuff to rest.
 

Possum

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Hope we get Yates. 43% from 3. Can score the ball. 3 years of eligibility. Fits well with Lowe and Oweh. Get it done, Pope and company.
You just gave me an idea for a nice nickname for our potential backcourt:

Loweweh!
 

Cats192

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Let's lock up a commitment by midweek and make this a beautiful few days of basketball after the Duke meltdown!

Get it done, coaching staff! Get it done!
It feels like we keep saving our money. We won't overpay to outbid teams for a guy we really want. Either, we're stupid (there's no prize for having money and not players at the end of the rainbow), or the staff has always felt like they had a couple of aces up their sleeves.

Yates is that Ace. We have to spend the money to outbid Washington. He's a difference maker. We have to win this one.
 

bucsrule8872

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It feels like we keep saving our money. We won't overpay to outbid teams for a guy we really want. Either, we're stupid (there's no prize for having money and not players at the end of the rainbow), or the staff has always felt like they had a couple of aces up their sleeves.

Yates is that Ace. We have to spend the money to outbid Washington. He's a difference maker. We have to win this one.
Not sure I would say he is a “must get,” but Yates would be a big addition to this team. Lowe, Yates, and Oweh would equal a killer backcourt, IMHO.
 

Rick Honcho

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We have to spend the money to outbid Washington. He's a difference maker. We have to win this one.
Sums up nicely why I watch less and less college football and basketball. For the players it’s all about the💰. Not the rivalries. Not the coaches or program tradition. Certainly not the education. It’s all about the 💰.
 

jeffky

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Sums up nicely why I watch less and less college football and basketball. For the players it’s all about the💰. Not the rivalries. Not the coaches or program tradition. Certainly not the education. It’s all about the 💰.
I use to think the same thing ,but these players make multi multi millions for these universities. When you get hired for your services ,don't you expect to be compensated for it ,or do you volunteer your services and your skills for free . That being stated, they do need to get some structure and more control on the allocation of money and the rules that apply to it .
 
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Hope we get Yates. 43% from 3. Can score the ball. 3 years of eligibility. Fits well with Lowe and Oweh. Get it done, Pope and company.
If he’s that good, does 3yrs matter that much?
1) there’s the NBA, which is every player s dream
2) it just takes 1 school with an enormous NIL to lure a player away

Yes he sounds like a very good fit, I’m just saying 3 yrs vs 2 yrs not much difference, since you not have him that 3rd yr, possibly not the 2nd
 

*Fox2Monk*

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I use to think the same thing ,but these players make multi multi millions for these universities. When you get hired for your services ,don't you expect to be compensated for it ,or do you volunteer your services and your skills for free . That being stated, they do need to get some structure and more control on the allocation of money and the rules that apply to it .
No problem with them making as much as they can off their likeness and a revenue share %, but a flat payment just to play is getting out of hand.
 
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I said it before but it is worth repeating: he knows nothing. There are no more professional uk insiders because pope keeps everything so tight.

Getting it from kids is tough, but happens, because they now have actual agents instead of camps.

Nationally joe Tipton has the most actual inside info the because of his tipton edits but he can rarely share much.

Most all of the actual scoop comes from people putting the nil deals together. They usually have barely any followers and cant charge so no one believes them
 

wildcatdon

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Sums up nicely why I watch less and less college football and basketball. For the players it’s all about the💰. Not the rivalries. Not the coaches or program tradition. Certainly not the education. It’s all about the 💰.
Well put. And with all the conference switching the traditional rivalries are out the window. Damn shame.
 

catswin

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Jan 3, 2003
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Hope we get Yates. 43% from 3. Can score the ball. 3 years of eligibility. Fits well with Lowe and Oweh. Get it done, Pope and company.
He has more potential than anyone on the roster except for Jasper. It would be great to have them together for two seasons.
 

RoyKent

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So in other words, he provided nothing new with that update but wanted to do something while he was on Cloud 9 and everyone else is too seeing Duke Lose. Got it. LOL
Yep. And he took 45 minutes to say something that should take 3. Dude cannot ever get to the point on anything
 
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Old Blue Fart

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I use to think the same thing ,but these players make multi multi millions for these universities. When you get hired for your services ,don't you expect to be compensated for it ,or do you volunteer your services and your skills for free . That being stated, they do need to get some structure and more control on the allocation of money and the rules that apply to it .
How many kids get a chance for a free education at a top university? I understand using a player in a commercial for the NCAA or university saying that player should be compensated.
What about the coal miner or assembly line worker who shows up everyday to do their small part in a long line of parts to make billions for their company? Some, if lucky get a profit sharing clause but it usually is not nothing compared to what the bottom line of profits that company makes.

Even the NBA has rules to their madness. Players get the best contracts they can get but must stay through their contract unlike what we see in college ball right now.
Kids in high school who have not played one minute of college ball are getting millions.

I hd a 19 year old kid with zero experience ( no experience in anything, his first job as a favor to a friend) that was hired to be a maintenance apprentice who one day came in mad as hell; said to me he was being disrespected. When I asked him how was this, he said I hired a man who was getting more than he was.
I asked WTH are you talking about and he said I am paying this new guy more money and he already had a computer and all and was driving a one of my trucks.
The guy I hired had 25 years experience, knew how to work on his own without any supervision, and this 19 year old didn't even have his drivers license!

My point is this; kids today want and expect what others have worked hard to get on day one. Not all kids, but this new generation of athletes feel they are owed something before they even earn anything.

People complain about players not getting paid while colleges make money but sit back and say nothing about these same universities taking federal taxpayer money meant for research. Professors doing research ask for grants and get them; they get 65% and the college takes the rest. How is that fair to the professor or the taxpayer. Same college has millions and millions in the bank but they just keep taking more.

The whole damn system is out of whack do to money.
 

SkyPrince1

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Not sure I would say he is a “must get,” but Yates would be a big addition to this team. Lowe, Yates, and Oweh would equal a killer backcourt, IMHO.
Yates is gonna have to be a player who embraces competition and wants to be here to pursue a title.
If he's not built like that then it will probably be Washington.
Fultz, Jaden McDaniels, and Isaiah Stewart all used Washington as a pit stop before the NBA.
 

bucsrule8872

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If he’s that good, does 3yrs matter that much?
1) there’s the NBA, which is every player s dream
2) it just takes 1 school with an enormous NIL to lure a player away

Yes he sounds like a very good fit, I’m just saying 3 yrs vs 2 yrs not much difference, since you not have him that 3rd yr, possibly not the 2nd
6’4 shooting guards are a dime a dozen. I am not too worried about the NBA. The NBA drafts on potential. If they wanted him, he would have entered the draft instead of the portal after putting up those numbers in the Big 10.

As for other schools, well that is a concern. We just have to match them and hope he sticks around. But that’s every underclassman in the country. Can’t worry about that.
 

Thecycle27

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It really gets tough filling out the 11-13 scholarships. Players that are highly sought want to be the guy. They don’t want be a piece. That includes the highly recruited freshman. They don’t want to sit behind anyone either.

Yates is pushing someone to the crub, he is a starter.
 

Someguywhodoesntlikeyou

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It really gets tough filling out the 11-13 scholarships. Players that are highly sought want to be the guy. They don’t want be a piece. That includes the highly recruited freshman. They don’t want to sit behind anyone either.

Yates is pushing someone to the crub, he is a starter.

We have 11-13 guys in Noah and Perry honestly
 

GoNoles111

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It really gets tough filling out the 11-13 scholarships. Players that are highly sought want to be the guy. They don’t want be a piece. That includes the highly recruited freshman. They don’t want to sit behind anyone either.

Yates is pushing someone to the crub, he is a starter.

Well yeah. He ain't coming to sit. He'll start.
 

jeffky

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How many kids get a chance for a free education at a top university? I understand using a player in a commercial for the NCAA or university saying that player should be compensated.
What about the coal miner or assembly line worker who shows up everyday to do their small part in a long line of parts to make billions for their company? Some, if lucky get a profit sharing clause but it usually is not nothing compared to what the bottom line of profits that company makes.

Even the NBA has rules to their madness. Players get the best contracts they can get but must stay through their contract unlike what we see in college ball right now.
Kids in high school who have not played one minute of college ball are getting millions.

I hd a 19 year old kid with zero experience ( no experience in anything, his first job as a favor to a friend) that was hired to be a maintenance apprentice who one day came in mad as hell; said to me he was being disrespected. When I asked him how was this, he said I hired a man who was getting more than he was.
I asked WTH are you talking about and he said I am paying this new guy more money and he already had a computer and all and was driving a one of my trucks.
The guy I hired had 25 years experience, knew how to work on his own without any supervision, and this 19 year old didn't even have his drivers license!

My point is this; kids today want and expect what others have worked hard to get on day one. Not all kids, but this new generation of athletes feel they are owed something before they even earn anything.

People complain about players not getting paid while colleges make money but sit back and say nothing about these same universities taking federal taxpayer money meant for research. Professors doing research ask for grants and get them; they get 65% and the college takes the rest. How is that fair to the professor or the taxpayer. Same college has millions and millions in the bank but they just keep taking more.

The whole damn system is out of whack do to money.
Debatable no doubt but it's not going back . You either change with the times or you watch the ship sail
We need change at the top of our athletic department. The Football program is a disaster and a AD who has made it known he despises name image and likeness payouts
 
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true-blue1

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It probably won’t happen but if Isaiah evans for Duke were to enter the portal he would be one I wouldn’t mind Kentucky going after if we miss on yates/Pierre or whoever
I was thinking the same thing! I was very surprised he didn’t get to play more.
 

NociHTTP

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I use to think the same thing ,but these players make multi multi millions for these universities. When you get hired for your services ,don't you expect to be compensated for it ,or do you volunteer your services and your skills for free . That being stated, they do need to get some structure and more control on the allocation of money and the rules that apply to it .
Again, it was never about "getting hired for your services". Players were either given scholarships or they walked on. Either way you had to make the grades to remain eligible to play, and if you didn't perform as expected you could lose your scholarship. There was always getting paid under the table, but getting paid under the table should never be equated to getting paid per NIL.
 

jeffky

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Again, it was never about "getting hired for your services". Players were either given scholarships or they walked on. Either way you had to make the grades to remain eligible to play, and if you didn't perform as expected you could lose your scholarship. There was always getting paid under the table, but getting paid under the table should never be equated to getting paid per NIL.
I don't agree with that for years this went on and ncaa made no effort to do anything about it University’s using the players image and not compensating the player the courts decided this was not right and here we are today debating this I respect your opinion but I see it differently 👍