Jack White
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Love that name.
He's a 3 and D small forward. He is too young with not enough experience against top guys to know what he'll be like. I just want to reference K always going after "White" players.
I'm too lazy to check, but I bet Gonzaga has had more "White" players than Duke, not that anyone really cares.
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I know there is a lot of Prem info on this kid now but still. I did speak to my former college room mate who is a Pro Scout and he said Jack's name has been know my international scouts since he was 15. The word on Jack is he is pretty good at everything with decent athleticism but still has areas of his game that need developing. He also said that kids like this pop up on college rosters and transform themselves into very good college players then go back overseas to play Pro ball. He thought Jack would be a part of the World Team against the US team in the Spring All-Star game. He said he would be shocked if Jack did not commit to Duke.
I asked about his game and he said he did not see him play but from his understanding Jack has intangibles to become a contributor while at Duke. He said Jack could excel on the defensive side of the game.
I asked about his game and he said he did not see him play but from his understanding Jack has intangibles to become a contributor while at Duke. He said Jack could excel on the defensive side of the game.
But is he gonna be a walk-on? Still hoping for Bolden, and that leaves no spots unless Grayson unwisely leaves.
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If we're looking for scholarship guys to round out guard spots, there's gotta be some inclination that we'll have a few guards leaving in the next two years. This probably speaks about Grayson, but may speak about where Frank or Luke may be in two years as well.
If a guy leaves early and goes round 1, it was a good move IMO. Risking injury (particularly relevant for Grayson) or a bad season for a slightly better contract doesn't outweigh the risks associated with going too early. Tyus wasn't ready, but he wasn't going to outdo that draft result in the future. Meanwhile he's making very good money and he is still in great position to get PT and thus a second contract. Then there are guys who really value the college experience enough to ignore some financial risks. I can respect those wishes too. Money does not equal fulfillment. Just do what makes you happy.
Sounds like he could be another Marty Pocius to me. But then again, you never know. If he wants to come and K wants him, I'm all for it.
Marty wasn't too bad to have around, and really battled that ankle injury the whole time. I wouldn't mind a healthy version of him on the team if he embraces being a role player and practice squad guy. Marty is still playing Euroleague ball and has a sixth man type role on the Lithuanian National team, so he had plenty of talent.
Jack had a great stat line in the finals. 19 points and 11 rebounds. He posted double digit rebounds in both the finals and semi's. I'm not sure how anyone else feels but I'm getting excited to get this kid on campus on 2/25 and for him to possible commit.
Who knows -- but I'm not sure we should be reading too much into our apparent recruitment of White. I think what K's learned from the past couple seasons is that, in today's modern college b-ball, there's just too much roster turnover and uncertainty to carry only 8-10 scholarship, recruited players. I view Jack White in much the way I view the Vrankovich recruitment -- i.e., K for the first time in a while trying to fill out the 11-13 roster spots with competent, recruited players who would be patient enough to sit and develop for a few years and hopefully be able to contribute in a pinch if needed. Yesterday, for instance, we would have been in a completely different place if we had a serviceable back-up jr. guard who could give us a few minutes.
Reality is that in the one-and-done era, it's virtually impossible to get high-end recruits (i.e., top 50-100) to do what someone like Marshall Plumlee has done -- i.e., provide emergency depth for a couple years while they continue to develop into what you would hope to be useful role players by their jr. and sr. seasons. If you're K, the options are to fill those back-end spots with top 50-100 freshmen who'll likely transfer if they don't break into the rotation by year 2 or get more lowly rated guys who are less concerned about making a quick jump to the NBA. I think Vrank, JRobinson, and White all signal a shift towards filling out the back-end of the roster with less talented kids who will stay and develop over time.
Reality is that in the one-and-done era, it's virtually impossible to get high-end recruits (i.e., top 50-100) to do what someone like Marshall Plumlee has done -- i.e., provide emergency depth for a couple years while they continue to develop into what you would hope to be useful role players by their jr. and sr. seasons. If you're K, the options are to fill those back-end spots with top 50-100 freshmen who'll likely transfer if they don't break into the rotation by year 2 or get more lowly rated guys who are less concerned about making a quick jump to the NBA. I think Vrank, JRobinson, and White all signal a shift towards filling out the back-end of the roster with less talented kids who will stay and develop over time.
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aah555, I can agree of filling out the roster and player development over time. What is missed is other college programs go overseas and find very good players who come in and become solid players to their programs. With the OAD era colleges need to do their recruiting globally to stay a step in front of the process.
We need to be thinking ahead, roster-wise, so I think it's good we're looking into White. Obi and Vrank will be gone before we know it, and Duke might lose a game after that, so we need someone for the long-time-fans-first-time-posters to whine about K's not playing.
If nothing else, another body to have in practice a la Vrankovic and Robinson this year
That's setting the bar a little low, don't you think? They need to inspire at least 2 threads per Duke loss each season where posters whom we've never seen before but who have been Duke fans their whole lives complain that K isn't giving them a chance.
I've never seen you before. Have you been a Duke fan your whole life?
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I think down the road Vrank will find a way into the rotation, and Robinson might even get some minutes by year 3. I like this mix of including one-and-dones with guys will project to being four-year players.
I agree with vrank, he lioks to have some promising potential. I don't see it yet with Robinson, his coordination hasn't caught up with his length yet from what I've seen.
Yeah, I'm just projecting; by then a junior Robinson will know the system and find some time on the floor. I'm not expecting more than 15-20 minutes, but at least some as a junior.
I'd be honored to just be in a Duke uniform getting a Duke degree. I would be happy just to prove it to K that I gave it my all. Playing time would just be gravy.