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looking at his career. seems to be underwhelming for a former 7th pick of the 1st round.

I dunno, not sure how this guy is going to be any better than Bruce. What were the other two prospects?

I guess his OBP is good though
 
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I feel good for Bruce going to a playoff team has to suck playing for a team that's In rebuild mode
 
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Willy4UK said:
looking at his career. seems to be underwhelming for a former 7th pick of the 1st round.

I dunno, not sure how this guy is going to be any better than Bruce. What were the other two prospects?

I guess his OBP is good though
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He was 13th, not 7th.

Sounds like he is a top of the order guy (2nd?). He's only 23 and his numbers in AAA this year are strong. He's from Wyoming where the competition isn't great, so that may have something to do with starting a bit slow in the minors while he adjusted.
 
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UK_Is_Good said:
He was 13th, not 7th.

Sounds like he is a top of the order guy (2nd?). He's only 23 and his numbers in AAA this year are strong. He's from Wyoming where the competition isn't great, so that may have something to do with starting a bit slow in the minors while he adjusted.
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Thanks for the correction. Yeah, he sounds like a top of the order guy. I dunno. It seems like the Reds coulda got a better established prospect for Bruce, imo.
 
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Thanks for the correction. Yeah, he sounds like a top of the order guy. I dunno. It seems like the Reds coulda got a better established prospect for Bruce, imo.
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I think Bruce's up and down nature hurt. As good as he's been this year, whether he can keep it up this season and next (assuming the Mets pick up his option) is a question mark.
 
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Baseball statisticians amaze me. How does someone just know that so quickly? How is that even something that people would look up?

Crazy
 
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There's a database that has when you're traded category on the filters? That's crazy. It's just something you wouldn't expect to even think about.
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I'm sure Elias can cross reference a player's transaction log. As long as the data exists, you can write a query to look up pretty much anything, it's not all pre-written filters.
 
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YourPublicEnemy said:
I don't understand why Cincinnati blew up their team to get to this point. They gave away everybody.
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Their mistake was not doing it a year earlier. The rebuild could have been a lot faster. It looks like they are giving guys away because they waited too long. They could have had so much more for Cueto and Chapman.
 
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The issues started when Jockerty was hired in. He is awful as far as keeping a strong farm system which small market teams must do.

Once he decided to blow his sad on Votto, then sign BP and Homer Bailey meant everyone else on the roster would be gone as soon as existing deals were up.

Very bad decision to extend Homer over Cueto and crippling the organization with Votto was just too much to overcome.
 
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funKYcat75 said:
If I'm already going to be disappointed, might as well stay a Reds fan.

(Jealous of the head coach though)
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He's the Phil Jackson of baseball. I love me some Maddon. You all can have Rizzo though; he may be our best bat, but no matter how hard I try I can't stomach his "Let me viciously hump the plate like a drunken Kung Fu master" batting stance.
 
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Another problem is that so many teams are in rebuilding mode right now. It's fine when it's one or two teams, but half the freaking league is gutting its roster right now.
 
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wcc31 said:
Yeah, that bandwagon has always been full. At least you geeks are actually winning now.
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Eh, it had really died down over the last decade before last season. I do find it interesting how many start following at the hint of Cub success though, seems they're as bandwagonable as the Yankees.
 
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The Jocketty failure is now complete. Not a single, high-level prospect for any of these 5:

Cueto: Reed, Finnegan, Lamb

Leake: Duvall, Keury Mella

Chapman: Rookie Davis, Cotham, Eric Jagielo, Tony Renda

Frazier: Peraza, Schebler, Brandon Dixon

Bruce: Herrara, Wotell




All the haul is now is a potential starting 2B and SS who are both OBP-types. Potential 2 rotation pitchers, maybe. And Duvall , who is outperforming his career, but is also 28 years old.
 
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YourPublicEnemy said:
There's a database that has when you're traded category on the filters? That's crazy. It's just something you wouldn't expect to even think about.
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You can quickly find anything with a decent t database nowadays. I work at Humana and I can find out how many Medicare enrollees in Alabama are not taking their diabetes medication this month in less than a couple of hours.
 
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dgtatu01 said:
You can quickly find anything with a decent t database nowadays. I work at Humana and I can find out how many Medicare enrollees in Alabama are not taking their diabetes medication this month in less than a couple of hours.
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That's really cool. I bet you could find all kinds of stuff to entertain yourself with a database like that.
 
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