Jay Williams dumb Logic
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Said we will get rattled if Ina close game.. did he not see 3 of our starters in the NCAA tournament last year?
Yeah, we have 4 guys who had 6 straight close games last year in the tourney, including the last 5 come down to the last minute or last possession. WCS played in 2 of those games...so give me a break on that. His logic is just flawed, but I think you will see LESS people than you would think picking UK because of the "they just can't do it can they? They cannot go undefeated." logic. It is stupid, but it is what it is.
Or see the Georgia game last week? Or the LSU game? Or Ole Miss? Texas A&M?
That's 4 games that just about any other team in the nation (probably any team) would have lost if they were in the same situation within the last few minutes against those teams like UK was.
Its almost like Ole Miss, Texas A&M, LSU and the Georgia game's never happened.
Other than one UNC game at home, what close game down to last 2 minutes did Duke play?
Oh and I mention Duke because its more than obvious he's trying to convince himself UK will lose so Duke will win
Other than one UNC game at home, what close game down to last 2 minutes did Duke play?
Oh and I mention Duke because its more than obvious he's trying to convince himself UK will lose so Duke will win
You gotta get close first, Jay. So far we have had two OT games, Georgia, and a couple of others that came down to the last minute and we won them all.
No doubt there will be some tough games but getting blown out by Miami doesn't really do a lot for you in terms of making me think you're the best in the country.
No doubt there will be some tough games but getting blown out by Miami doesn't really do a lot for you in terms of making me think you're the best in the country.
That's funny. I'm pretty sure the entire goal of the tournament is to not lose a game. It sounds like we have a lot of experience in that area.
Does one get better at winning close games by winning close games or by losing them? Because we've won several close games. We just haven't lost any.
Does one get better at winning close games by winning close games or by losing them? Because we've won several close games. We just haven't lost any.
I am tired of hearing that it is impossible for a mens basketball team to go undefeated. It has happened before. I guess it is ok for the women to do it and not the men. I hope our boys stay focused for 9 more games and shut these @ss hats up. UK has had many close games this year. This is what you get when you hire all unc cheat and dook players. GBB
After one of our recent closer games, the guy in the studio questioned whether UK could win it all because they were allowing lesser teams to stay close. I thought it was Jay and Seth who said that was bunk. They both said that winning on the road, even in close games, was very impressive, etc.
Was that not Jay?
Was that not Jay?
Yep, that's him.
But what else could he say? All the other answers that have been given have been wrong. He could have also said " a potential zombie breakout" too and it would have been just as creative.
I would absolutely LOVE to get paid (extremely well) to watch college basketball for a loving. It would be a dream job.
That being said...do any of these guys actually watch what they're getting paid to do?! I'm not saying all announcers should kiss UK's ***, but there is no way an announcer on Williams "level" should be making ridiculous statements like that.
That being said...do any of these guys actually watch what they're getting paid to do?! I'm not saying all announcers should kiss UK's ***, but there is no way an announcer on Williams "level" should be making ridiculous statements like that.
It happens fairly regularly in the women's game because the distribution of talent is so much more concentrated.
Nobody has said that it is impossible but it has been 40 years since it's happened.
I'm not so sure why so many of you get your panties in a wad whenever somebody says anything but "Kentucky will win it all"?
What effect will what they say have on the tourney?
Zero, zilch, nadda. So why does it bother you?
Its about people making ridiculous comments.....which is what Jay Williams did. He's paid to be an expert. That's hardly expert analysis.
Sports writing in general has gotten so much better these last 10 years, but there is still far too much of this cliche BS masquerading as journalism, entertainment, opinion pieces, or what not. I guess people tune in to such nonsense.
And if UK loses in the tourney, then they will say UK is vulnerable now, the Cats lost their confidence, and whatever team beat them showed the rest of the country the formula to beat UK.
These media guys have to talk about something and whether UK can be beaten or not is the top thing to talk about right now.
These media guys have to talk about something and whether UK can be beaten or not is the top thing to talk about right now.
I understand the logic that a loss can bring a team back down to earth and get them in the right frame of mind going into the tournament. However, I don't see this team getting the big head. They have had games where they didn't give %100 but those were against weaker teams. This UK team has stepped up against the tougher compitition all year. I look for them to do the same during the tournament. I could, however, see them looking ahead to the big dance and losing focus during the SEC tournament.
This is just an after though but the other thing that makes this team unique is that they have 9 players who can play with anybody in the country. If one of the players does experience a let down, there is a worthy replacement ready to step in and take his spot.
This is just an after though but the other thing that makes this team unique is that they have 9 players who can play with anybody in the country. If one of the players does experience a let down, there is a worthy replacement ready to step in and take his spot.
A lot of negative comments here are made in order to feel more secure. If we all say Kentucky is going to win it all, beat Wisconsin without any problem, Duke sucks, the Zags are over-rated, Villanova is over rated, Virginia is over-rated, Williams is dumb-ship and so on as a group somehow that seems to make it more true. I hope it proves true, but please don't tell me that all of us won't be nervous when these game happen.
He makes a point about the pressure and I expect the team could get tight. But, that is what I love about our depth. I think that is the real ace in the hole. If one guy isn't performing or a platoon isn't performing there are options. If in one game someone gets in serious foul trouble there are options. If a point guard gets in trouble, there are options. If a big man gets in trouble there are options. If we are not hitting 3's, there are options, etc. I don't know of any other team that can say that. We lost one year because the team couldn't handle a press, well now there are options with subs. One year (with the Cousins/Wall group) we lost because we couldn't hit an outside shot, well now there are options. I do like our chances but it is a one game and you are out and just because we blew out some very good teams, we also had our close games too.
He makes a point about the pressure and I expect the team could get tight. But, that is what I love about our depth. I think that is the real ace in the hole. If one guy isn't performing or a platoon isn't performing there are options. If in one game someone gets in serious foul trouble there are options. If a point guard gets in trouble, there are options. If a big man gets in trouble there are options. If we are not hitting 3's, there are options, etc. I don't know of any other team that can say that. We lost one year because the team couldn't handle a press, well now there are options with subs. One year (with the Cousins/Wall group) we lost because we couldn't hit an outside shot, well now there are options. I do like our chances but it is a one game and you are out and just because we blew out some very good teams, we also had our close games too.
I agree it doesn't bother me! In sports media somebody has to rattle the cage to keep the average viewer interested! As many people will watch the tourney hoping we lose as will hoping we pull it off heck probably more people! ESPN cbs will have to pull this trick to every UK game will have high ratings and after the first round it will be off the charts!
I didn't see his full comments, but UK fans need to stop being so sensitive. I've seen him praise the Cats this year; Williams does a fine job.
And the more people who pick against UK the better. The more people who hate or who take somebody else, the more ammunition Cal will be able to use. An angry team is what we need, because there are two ways Kentucky gets beat from here on in. One is if a team plays absolutely lights out; the other is if we play flat.
A few people have picked against Kentucky all year. That's good. Cal uses that kind of thing; it drives him.
And the more people who pick against UK the better. The more people who hate or who take somebody else, the more ammunition Cal will be able to use. An angry team is what we need, because there are two ways Kentucky gets beat from here on in. One is if a team plays absolutely lights out; the other is if we play flat.
A few people have picked against Kentucky all year. That's good. Cal uses that kind of thing; it drives him.
What subject matter and what point of view a talking head takes on these ESPN shows is provided by the producers of the show.
Originally posted by maverick1:
Wail, I dont perclaim to be no goo-roo but I recon I kin take a stab at er fer ya...
when you see stuff like this you think clearly they haven't paid much attention to the close games UK has played.
and one thing that scares me as a fan is if ole miss, texas a&m, LSU, or UGA don't go cold then UK loses. of course a lot of that is attributed to UK's defense, but also the other teams lack of depth. so could this happen, that a team stays hot and beats UK....yes absolutely,but one thing that would scare me as a fan of other teams that if its a big game and UK shows up then you might as well not try. Kansas, North Carolina, UCLA, Texas, Louisville, Arkansas....UK showed up and these teams didn't have a shot. Texas played UK the best, but wore down quickly in the second half.
if UK loses in the tourney it will be sweet 16 and before. any game after they will show up ready to play.
and one thing that scares me as a fan is if ole miss, texas a&m, LSU, or UGA don't go cold then UK loses. of course a lot of that is attributed to UK's defense, but also the other teams lack of depth. so could this happen, that a team stays hot and beats UK....yes absolutely,but one thing that would scare me as a fan of other teams that if its a big game and UK shows up then you might as well not try. Kansas, North Carolina, UCLA, Texas, Louisville, Arkansas....UK showed up and these teams didn't have a shot. Texas played UK the best, but wore down quickly in the second half.
if UK loses in the tourney it will be sweet 16 and before. any game after they will show up ready to play.
At least we're not liars and welshers like you. Say, did you ever pay bradyjames that grand you owe him?
Lots of people equate not losing to not being tested. Lord knows our guys have been tested, and in fact, the numbers our guys have been putting up during "winning time" scenarios are ungodly efficient on both sides of the court, but especially on defense.
It isn't like 1991 UNLV, great as they were, being totally boned once Greg Anthony fouled out against Duke.
It isn't like 1991 UNLV, great as they were, being totally boned once Greg Anthony fouled out against Duke.
Jay, just because Duke has never run the table doesn't mean UK cant. After all we are better than you.
I will add that Greenberg and the host (Karl Ravich maybe?) gave it to him pretty hard for that logic, and brought up how UK has won close games this year. Then Williams said "tourney is different if you are down" which is true, but that is when Greenberg should have said "What happened last year in the tourney for a lot of these UK guys?" Give me a break.
It is just hilarious to me that more people on ESPN, SI, CBS, Foxsports, etc, will not pick UK when the brackets come out this Sunday due to not having a loss most likely, but if we lose in the SEC Tourney apparently more will pick us? Weird. I don't think it matters.
It is just hilarious to me that more people on ESPN, SI, CBS, Foxsports, etc, will not pick UK when the brackets come out this Sunday due to not having a loss most likely, but if we lose in the SEC Tourney apparently more will pick us? Weird. I don't think it matters.
The ACC fans are dying to see us lose, I have a person that I have business dealings with and they have been pretty coy all season but she finally broke down the other night and said y'all would not be undefeated if you played in ACC. I imagine it would have been more difficult so I hope if we lose it won't be to a ACC school. I reminded her that our guys had beat both ACC teams we have faced plus there was two SEC schools in final four last season. At the same time I don't want to get in the chest thumping business if these guys do get upset, they have given us a season to remember already.Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:
"Kentucky won't win it all because they have not lost a game."
Another comparison would be Wichita State last year. They didn't lose to UK because the game was close and they got nervous. Both teams were insanely efficient offensively, even down the stretch. Kentucky just made a couple of stops when they needed to.
