Jermaine Burton, starting WR at Georgia

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One SEC school to another SEC school, does he even have any credits?
Credits? SEC schools aren't accredited. ;)

Make no bones about it, college football has officially become a farm system. PSU either adapts or dies. Also, why watch the Durham Bulls when you can watch the Atlanta Braves. I've made the transition (never thought I would). So should you guys. In so doing I found the NFL is lot more interesting than college, and I don't even play Fantasy Football.
 
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Credits? SEC schools aren't accredited. ;)

Make no bones about it, college football has officially become a farm system. PSU either adapts or dies. Also, why watch the Durham Bulls when you can watch the Atlanta Braves. I've made the transition (never thought I would). So should you guys. In so doing I found the NFL is lot more interesting than college, and I don't even play Fantasy Football.
It's always been a farm system. Now its a professional farm system.
 

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Credits? SEC schools aren't accredited. ;)

Make no bones about it, college football has officially become a farm system. PSU either adapts or dies. Also, why watch the Durham Bulls when you can watch the Atlanta Braves. I've made the transition (never thought I would). So should you guys. In so doing I found the NFL is lot more interesting than college, and I don't even play Fantasy Football.

Sandy laughs at adapting.
 

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The value of parity.
Agree. The NFL's salary cap system is obviously working. Large market (LA), small market (GB), doesn't matter. Draft well, develop players, have a competent front office, you have a chance.

Want to completely upend college football? Turn the NIL incentives into a salary cap system. The schools themselves issue the NIL dollars (not sponsor donors). Each school has $X to spend on recruits. When you're out of money, sign a few three-stars like the rest of the world.
 

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Agree. The NFL's salary cap system is obviously working. Large market (LA), small market (GB), doesn't matter. Draft well, develop players, have a competent front office, you have a chance.

Want to completely upend college football? Turn the NIL incentives into a salary cap system. The schools themselves issue the NIL dollars (not sponsor donors). Each school has $X to spend on recruits. When you're out of money, sign a few three-stars like the rest of the world.

The sec laughs at a salary cap.
 

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I'm of the opinion that the cfb regular season is more gripping than the NFL regular season (a single loss in a given week can have a greater impact to a cfb team's season), but the NFL's playoffs are far and away more interesting than the CFP.
 

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I'm of the opinion that the cfb regular season is more gripping than the NFL regular season (a single loss in a given week can have a greater impact to a cfb team's season), but the NFL's playoffs are far and away more interesting than the CFP.
The reason I’ve always enjoyed the college football regular season was because every week was essentially a playoff game. It was a season long cage match. It feels like it’s changed.
 

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just portaled to Alabama. Honestly College Football sucks now.
Was there a reason given for the transfer? More Money? More PT? Religious convictions? Educational needs? Forest Gump inspired? Sadomasochism?
 

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The reason I’ve always enjoyed the college football regular season was because every week was essentially a playoff game. It was a season long cage match. It feels like it’s changed.

Yeah, but the CFP has really changed that with the mostly arbitrary way they select teams. In an effort to get the two ‘best’ teams they overlook things like schedule and conference championship. So, it’s less about achievement and more about ‘who do we think would win?’. It’s neutered the regular season for all but a handful of teams.
 
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Yeah, but the CFP has really changed that with the mostly arbitrary way they select teams. In an effort to get the two ‘best’ teams they overlook things like schedule and conference championship. So, it’s less about achievement and more about ‘who do we think would win?’. It’s neutered the regular season for all but a handful of teams.

Overlook a conference championship? The hell you say.
 
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Yeah, but the CFP has really changed that with the mostly arbitrary way they select teams. In an effort to get the two ‘best’ teams they overlook things like schedule and conference championship. So, it’s less about achievement and more about ‘who do we think would win?’. It’s neutered the regular season for all but a handful of teams.
Yeah, we need to go back to the good ol' days of letting the polls decide.

The CFP has been great and has been pretty accurate on selecting the best 4 every year. If PSU was winning there would be very little talk of expansion and all the other minor crap that people whine about when they aren't included. And parity? True parity is everyone going 6-6, nobody wants that.

All you have to do is win your games. If you can't do that you don't belong.
 

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Was there a reason given for the transfer? More Money? More PT? Religious convictions? Educational needs? Forest Gump inspired? Sadomasochism?
My guess is that he wants to play with an All-American quarterback, in an offense that throws more
 
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Yeah, we need to go back to the good ol' days of letting the polls decide.

The CFP has been great and has been pretty accurate on selecting the best 4 every year. If PSU was winning there would be very little talk of expansion and all the other minor crap that people whine about when they aren't included. And parity? True parity is everyone going 6-6, nobody wants that.

All you have to do is win your games. If you can't do that you don't belong.

What's the point of a conference championship? I don't see how the 'polls' deciding versus what we have now is in any way different; they're both beauty contests.
 

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Was there a reason given for the transfer? More Money? More PT? Religious convictions? Educational needs? Forest Gump inspired? Sadomasochism?
Fascinated by the Boll Weevil statue in Birmingham. Wanted to be as close as he could be and still recieve $EC stipend.
 
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What's the point of a conference championship? I don't see how the 'polls' deciding versus what we have now is in any way different; they're both beauty contests.
Well, a bunch of reporters used to decide who was the best team at the end of the season after #1 may or may not have played the team that the reporters thought was the 2nd best team. Anything is better than that. Say what you want about the playoff committee, but the results have more or less shown that they have gotten the 4 playoff teams right.

Eventually it will go to 8 teams and the conf champs will all be in. I'm sure someone will then b!tch about how the at-large teams get in.
 
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Yeah, but the CFP has really changed that with the mostly arbitrary way they select teams. In an effort to get the two ‘best’ teams they overlook things like schedule and conference championship. So, it’s less about achievement and more about ‘who do we think would win?’. It’s neutered the regular season for all but a handful of teams.
Isn’t that pretty much what I said?
Though to be fair, the old system was not much different but without a playoff at the end. Just opinions of who the best team was.
 
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Well, a bunch of reporters used to decide who was the best team at the end of the season after #1 may or may not have played the team that the reporters thought was the 2nd best team. Anything is better than that. Say what you want about the playoff committee, but the results have more or less shown that they have gotten the 4 playoff teams right.

Eventually it will go to 8 teams and the conf champs will all be in. I'm sure someone will then b!tch about how the at-large teams get in.

Not disagreeing, and I like the power removed from the writers, but.....these guys pick the 'best' teams now - again, not sure how this is 'better':

  • Gary Barta: Iowa AD – CFP committee chair
  • Mitch Barnhart: Kentucky AD
  • Paola Boivin: Arizona State professor
  • Tom Burman: Wyoming AD
  • Charlie Cobb: Georgia State AD
  • Boo Corrigan: North Carolina State AD
  • Rick George: Colorado AD
  • Will Shields: former Nebraska offensive lineman
  • Gene Taylor: Kansas State AD
  • Joe Taylor: Vice President for Athletics and Community Wellness, Virginia Union University
  • John Urschel: former Penn State offensive lineman
  • Rod West: group president Entergy Corporation
  • Tyrone Willingham: former head coach at Stanford, Notre Dame and Washington

I'd also add that with the consolidation of talent to fewer and fewer teams it's much easier to pick the 'best' teams year in, year out. They almost always have the top recruiting classes. Cincinnati was an experiment that should not happen again.
 

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Not disagreeing, and I like the power removed from the writers, but.....these guys pick the 'best' teams now - again, not sure how this is 'better':

  • Gary Barta: Iowa AD – CFP committee chair
  • Mitch Barnhart: Kentucky AD
  • Paola Boivin: Arizona State professor
  • Tom Burman: Wyoming AD
  • Charlie Cobb: Georgia State AD
  • Boo Corrigan: North Carolina State AD
  • Rick George: Colorado AD
  • Will Shields: former Nebraska offensive lineman
  • Gene Taylor: Kansas State AD
  • Joe Taylor: Vice President for Athletics and Community Wellness, Virginia Union University
  • John Urschel: former Penn State offensive lineman
  • Rod West: group president Entergy Corporation
  • Tyrone Willingham: former head coach at Stanford, Notre Dame and Washington

I'd also add that with the consolidation of talent to fewer and fewer teams it's much easier to pick the 'best' teams year in, year out. They almost always have the top recruiting classes. Cincinnati was an experiment that should not happen again.
John Urschel alone makes it 100 times better than Jimmy from the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

I think your beef is more to do with your 2nd part - consolidation of talent. That is frustrating with college football, but not sure what you can do about it.
 
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John Urschel alone makes it 100 times better than Jimmy from the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

I think your beef is more to do with your 2nd part - consolidation of talent. That is frustrating with college football, but not sure what you can do about it.

Maybe make it so no one ‘decides’ anything and teams get in base on an objective criteria - like winning your conference.
 
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Maybe make it so no one ‘decides’ anything and teams get in base on an objective criteria - like winning your conference.
I’ve been making that point for years but nobody ever seems to like it. 4 major conferences, conference championship games are essentially round one of the playoffs, then the four conference champs play it out. Takes the objectivity out of it.
 
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Maybe make it so no one ‘decides’ anything and teams get in base on an objective criteria - like winning your conference.
As long as you have a better record. Wins and losses count, no need for a 2-loss conference champ to be considered when there are 0 or 1 loss teams out there.
 

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I’ve been making that point for years but nobody ever seems to like it. 4 major conferences, conference championship games are essentially round one of the playoffs, then the four conference champs play it out. Takes the objectivity out of it.

I'm not sure why; every other major sport in the world does it that way. Making a conference championship meaningful also means the regular season is more meaningful. College football now exists only to serve the national championship game and CFP and it's made the product worse and more subjective. What it says is a loss to Pitt says more about your team than a win over Ohio State and Wisconsin in a conference championship game. It's *** backwards.
 
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