Jon Gruden Would "Die To Coach In The SEC," So Let's Rank Some Landing Spots
If Jon Gruden wants to coach in the SEC, I can think of a few potential landing spots that would LOVE to have him.
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I could imagine Auburn after Freeze flames out.
He might be dangerous at UF. He would have access to loads of talent in the state and UF is loaded with money.
Jeff Lebby was 2-10 in year 1, 0-8 in conference at Miss State. What will year 2 bring? I could imagine some program like them with nothing to lose, hiring him.
John Gruden: “would die to coach in the SEC”
Are we talking Jon Gruden or John Gruden LOLMaybe, but he would have to go into households and explain the issues brought to light by those emails. This would be a bigger problem in college than the pros IMO because organizations could just overlook it in the pros and guys would be under contract to play for him whether they liked it or not. In college, you are going to have to convince parents who in many cases don't appreciate some of the things that came to light.
True and that's why I think it could be a program already in the gutter, with nothing to lose.
but there is a easy way to turn parents in today's college football world during recruiting.
Are the Bulldogs loaded with that?True and that's why I think it could be a program already in the gutter, with nothing to lose.
but there is a easy way to turn parents in today's college football world during recruiting.
No, I agree, they fall in the gutter program category. I don't think they can buy recruits to that dumpster fire, which is why trying someone like Gruden makes sense for them, get some free pub.
Another program not in the gutter, could always try and use $ to sway parents, if they hired Gruden.
It’d be good for the game. He’s one that speaks his mind.Jon Gruden Would "Die To Coach In The SEC," So Let's Rank Some Landing Spots
If Jon Gruden wants to coach in the SEC, I can think of a few potential landing spots that would LOVE to have him.
I don’t really think it would be that big of a deal. Of course, opposing coaches would negative recruit with it, but I don’t think the average American really gives a big deal about those emails.
True and that's why I think it could be a program already in the gutter, with nothing to lose.
but there is a easy way to turn parents in today's college football world during recruiting.
If it wasn't a big deal, Gruden would still be coaching in the NFL. Raiders tried to keep him. Players started grumbling. Then the LGBTQ emails come out which in this day and time is the death knell to anyone's career. If he were to get a job, a school's money could get him some players, but players with choices would steer clear. The players that have choices are what a program needs in this climate. Needs to go back into TV if someone would have him or go in the podcasting space. He is a big character and was great in media before. Why would he want to go in a whole bunch of Black households and explain why he called another Black man Dumbmorris. Kind of hard to come back from that one. I know I would be polite about but I would decline the home visit and look elsewhere.
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Agreed. Without prompting, I bet 99% of the kids being recruited dont even know kw about that issue.
Their preacher does. That is where 99% of Black mothers get their advice or information from if they weren't already aware. Isn't this the same board that was so mad at a Black minister that was steering Black Basketball players from Carolina a few years ago? So, you guys think Gruden can go in the homes of Black mothers (who voted against Trump in over the 90th percentile both times) and not have to explain that. This is not your community and your responses show that you have no clue.
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Yawn. Tell us again what race you are and how that makes you an expert in everything.
As I said, 99% of the kids being recruited dont even know about that issue. Gruden disappeared for a few years, and that usually gives a reset in people's minds, for whatever reason.
Honestly, why would a coveted SEC recruit care about Jon Gruden or most any other of these names in the marketing circuit unless he brings a large wallet along?
Gruden is barely over .500 as a head coach.
Similar to Jimbo Fisher, you'd be wildly overpaying for a name that's not going to go very far in the NIL era.
Saban and Spurrier are obviously two of the biggest names in college football folklore and for good reason.
Saban has stated a big reason he quit the game was because he was so frustrated watching players who hadn't played a down in college get paid millions by teams like Oregon and their NIKE money.
Spurrier has made similar comments.
The only situation where a name might mean something is if the money offer for a particular player are in the same ballpark.
Gruden is barely over .500 as a head coach.
Similar to Jimbo Fisher, you'd be wildly overpaying for a name that's not going to go very far in the NIL era.
Saban and Spurrier are obviously two of the biggest names in college football folklore and for good reason.
Saban has stated a big reason he quit the game was because he was so frustrated watching players who hadn't played a down in college get paid millions by teams like Oregon and their NIKE money.
Spurrier has made similar comments.
The only situation where a name might mean something is if the money offer for a particular player are in the same ballpark.
Jon has had plenty of opportunities. He's been one of the top fantasy hires for every school in the past 20 years. Either he's blowing smoke, or he was afraid Saban would embarrass him.
Yes. Mommas would forget about that stuff in a minute if it meant winning and getting a chance to play for a coach who has NFL connections. Green is stronger than black. Much stronger.
The supposedly "racist" thing he said was that some guy had big lips. He does have big lips. Even most of his players at the time didn't care too much about it. The worst any player said was "no comment". Nothing close to a racial slur. Essentially he criticized a black man.
Would Gruden win in college? I don't know. Pete Carroll was an unimpressive coach in New England before he went to SoCal and absolutely dominated for close to a decade.
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His time off really has gone passed the penitential stage at this point. The dudes rich, makes one wonder if he really has been trying to land another job at all.
Nevada Supreme Court just ruled in his favor that his case against the NFL can proceed to trial. The NFL wanted it to go to arbitration overseen by Goodell. Yes, the NFL wanted Goodell to arbitrate a lawsuit in which Goodell was named. The court rightly saw that as absurd. My guess is the NFL doesn't want details of how/why Gruden's emails...and ONLY Gruden's emails...were leaked and will settle this thing out of court.
Yeah, don't see any chance. It's a pretty low percentage that he coaches college ball, but if he does, it won't be at MSU. For anything else involved, Gruden is still a veteran NFL head coach and that's seen as a high commodity.
The man said "he would die to coach in the SEC,' his words, if I'm the Miss State AD, I'm reminding him, we are in the SEC.
i think he would do it, based on his words, present situation, and haven not coached what would be 5 years by 2026. Why not go to a lower profile situation in the SEC and start again. His ego would tell him, he can win there.
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I had to go back and look it up, it was actually more recent than I was thinking. 5 years ago. That is still on the outside edge of the punishment time coaches take for stuff like this.
It is really crazy the NFL tried to pull that. Suppose it was worth a shot.
It would be interesting to see how Carroll would have done without cheating at USC . When the cheating stopped, USC went back to being mediocre and Carroll left.
No doubt he has copious ego. Question is, does it exceed his intelligence? Admittedly, he could take some encouragement from the Pirate's experience there, but I would consider Miss. State an extreme longshot.The man said "he would die to coach in the SEC,' his words, if I'm the Miss State AD, I'm reminding him, we are in the SEC.
i think he would do it, based on his words, present situation, and haven not coached what would be 5 years by 2026. Why not go to a lower profile situation in the SEC and start again. His ego would tell him, he can win there.
He has to be smart enough to see that no one has ever won close to big at MSSt. The place is hard to recruit to because of its location and now they aren't loaded with cash for NIL. Gruden has to see that he would be stepping into a no win situation that would likely cripple his reputation.The man said "he would die to coach in the SEC,' his words, if I'm the Miss State AD, I'm reminding him, we are in the SEC.
i think he would do it, based on his words, present situation, and haven not coached what would be 5 years by 2026. Why not go to a lower profile situation in the SEC and start again. His ego would tell him, he can win there.
I think the Arkansas job would be better. Arkansas has money and the athletic program there is actually very good outside of football. The recruiting area is good and Fayetteville is a decent sized town. I think Pittman is at the end of what has been a very generous rope.
He was on Fred Smoots podcast a little while ago and talked about how much he hates the cow bells and thinks its so stupid.
So maybe he ends up somewhere else,
So maybe he ends up somewhere else,
The one variable you leave out, when it comes to the SEC, is that everyone has money. You are implying that I simply see this as racial when I see it as a distraction in competing for the top recruits. College Football is a race for money and (human) resources. Distractions do have to be considered even if they don't mean anything to you. I just see the issue involving Smith, which I agree is a smaller issue in scale, along with the LGBTQ stuff as too much if you are really trying to win. Finally, is Gruden as a coach really worth it. Yes, he won a Super Bowl, but that was in 2002 and he has never had another Super Bowl appearance since. Actually, his career record is sort of modest at 117-112. He started off as a hot coach in Oakland. That got him the TB job where he won basically with Tony Dungy's players and defensive schemes. That group aged quick and he has never been the same since. The last thing these kids remember is him floundering in Las Vegas. I just believe that he has not had enough recent success to override the distractions.
He was on Fred Smoots podcast a little while ago and talked about how much he hates the cow bells and thinks its so stupid.
So maybe he ends up somewhere else,
Let's be honest here. Is there anyone who does like the cowbell who isn't obligated to as a fan or employee of that school?
(Cue up the SNL skit)
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Well...he should have taken the Tennessee job when it was offered LOL
The supposed offer came after Derek Dooley was fired and before Butch Jones was hired, so it would of been in 2012.