Kentucky and Michigan hired coaches the same year

[One2Three]

Michigan got Dusty May and are currently 8-0 and #2 in the country, meanwhile Kentucky hired Mark Pope and are 5-4 and currently unranked.

It bothers me so, so much. The damage Mitch Barnhart has caused is astronomical and may never be fully fixed.

 

[RunninRichie]

Mitch Barnhart should be in prison for the swim team scandal.

 

[MarvinHagler89]

Mitch deserves to be given life without parole. The worse AD in the history of college sports.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Michigan got Dusty May and are currently 8-0 and #2 in the country, meanwhile Kentucky hired Mark Pope and are 5-4 and currently unranked.

It bothers me so, so much. The damage Mitch Barnhart has caused is astronomical and may never be fully fixed.

May should absolutely be a top candidate if Pope doesn’t right this ship quickly. He could honestly hover around .500 overall by the end of this year.

 

[KyLegacyBBN]

Damn, the hits keep coming. Depressing.

 

[Farsight Clone]

If some how Pope salvages this season, it will buy him more time.

If Pope is done after this year, I think the two names you call are: Bruce Pearl and Dusty May.

If Pope stays for 3-5 years total, Pearl would be too old, then you can consider, Todd Golden, Dusty May, Nate Oates or someone else.

Dusty May was one of those coaches who had Final Four experience and he had a lot of potential. And his potential is correct.

One thing that matters a lot in coaching, is consistency.

 

[Bill_the_cat]

May is not leaving Michigan. Any talks with Jim are going to simply increase what Michigan pays him.

 

[kywildcat1021979]

Michigan got Dusty May and are currently 8-0 and #2 in the country, meanwhile Kentucky hired Mark Pope and are 5-4 and currently unranked.

It bothers me so, so much. The damage Mitch Barnhart has caused is astronomical and may never be fully fixed.

Doing it at a football school how shameful!

 

[Usmcincy]

May should absolutely be a top candidate if Pope doesn’t right this ship quickly. He could honestly hover around .500 overall by the end of this year.

I think people are underestimating how much money Michigan has.

They can afford to match anything we throw at them.

 

[UKSanders]

I know it's frustrating, but this was not even possible as an either-or situation as it sounds. If that wasn't the intention of this thread, my apologies, but if it was, it doesn't make sense and is just a bad argument.

May was hired by Michigan in March, Calipari left UK in April.

 

[Hush4872]

I know it's frustrating, but this was not even possible as an either-or situation as it sounds. If that wasn't the intention of this thread, my apologies, but if it was, it doesn't make sense and is just a bad argument.

May was hired by Michigan in March, Calipari left UK in April.

I took it more as a comparison of what can be accomplished in two years wih the right coach than specifically that we should have gone after May.

 

[OGtruebluewildcat]

MB offered every top guy out there and they all said no because of this type of petulant child behavior BS.

Michigan fans would not be melting down in year 2!

Y’all are crossing into Bama and Deep South football fan nut job territory.

Pope went to a S16 year 1…which was a tall task for anyone with that roster and probably greatest conference in history of CBB.

 

[megablue]

MB offered every top guy out there and they all said no because of this type of petulant child behavior BS.

Michigan fans would not be melting down in year 2!

Y’all are crossing into Bama and Deep South football fan nut job territory.

Pope went to a S16 year 1…which was a tall task for anyone with that roster and probably greatest conference in history of CBB.

Did he offer Sean Miller, who was right up the street at Xavier ??

Sean Miller - Wikipedia

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[buc puppet]

But was dusty may a captain on the 96 team?

 

[OGtruebluewildcat]

Did he offer Sean Miller, who was right up the street at Xavier ??

Sean Miller - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Miller is a very good coach.

Had already signed with Texas before Cal officially rolled out.

Although, I do not remember him being atop any wish/short list around here given his last few years at Zona.

 

[Goingfor9]

If some how Pope salvages this season, it will buy him more time.

If Pope is done after this year, I think the two names you call are: Bruce Pearl and Dusty May.

If Pope stays for 3-5 years total, Pearl would be too old, then you can consider, Todd Golden, Dusty May, Nate Oates or someone else.

Dusty May was one of those coaches who had Final Four experience and he had a lot of potential. And his potential is correct.

One thing that matters a lot in coaching, is consistency.

No. You put the full court press on Oates. He fits the trend of coaches who win at Kentucky in the modern era. No titles, been to a final four. Wants to win. At an inferior program. I don’t understand this longing for Pearl but he only works as a head coach with a team to bring. He’s not going to take players from his kid and he still has a contract with Auburn. I don’t know where this Pearl push came from but unless his kid leaves Auburn to come with him Pearl is retired. He would probably want to bring his kid to take over after him. Pearl retired for a reason and it isn’t to jump back into coaching. He has a health problem or something.

 

[sk73]

If some how Pope salvages this season, it will buy him more time.

If Pope is done after this year, I think the two names you call are: Bruce Pearl and Dusty May.

If Pope stays for 3-5 years total, Pearl would be too old, then you can consider, Todd Golden, Dusty May, Nate Oates or someone else.

Dusty May was one of those coaches who had Final Four experience and he had a lot of potential. And his potential is correct.

One thing that matters a lot in coaching, is consistency.

If the status quo continues for another 3-5 years, your above timeline, what makes anyone think that coaches of that caliber would even consider us. This season and next season are crucial for us if we even hope to maintain our regal status. I am concerned.

 

[sk73]

Miller is a very good coach.

Had already signed with Texas before Cal officially rolled out.

Although, I do not remember him being atop any wish/short list around here given his last few years at Zona.

This is Millers first year at Texas.

 

[Farsight Clone]

If the status quo continues for another 3-5 years, your above timeline, what makes anyone think that coaches of that caliber would even consider us. This season and next season are crucial for us if we even hope to maintain our regal status. I am concerned.

I was just trying to give a realistic take.

I am also concerned. The root of the problem is Mitch. I assume nothing will happen until after he retires in June of 2026 (hopefully)

 

[Bill_the_cat]

59 Division 1 coaches were hired in 24. Pope was just 1 of them. Some were bigger names, some have done better. Just have to have belief that Pope can turn it around.

 

[Kats meow]

MB offered every top guy out there and they all said no because of this type of petulant child behavior BS.

Are you telling me that a middle-of-the pack West Coast Conference coach was our last/best option? BS.

 

[UKortho]

I would rather have the UL coach than Pope (and I really don’t want him either).

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

I think people are underestimating how much money Michigan has.

They can afford to match anything we throw at them.

I’m not underestimating it. Just saying we should make a huge offer and see if he wants a blue blood job.

 

[theKybluedude]

May was hired while we had a coach…Cal.

Is Michigan also playing without its best 3 players in their lineup?

 

[jedwar]

MB offered every top guy out there and they all said no because of this type of petulant child behavior BS.

Michigan fans would not be melting down in year 2!

Y’all are crossing into Bama and Deep South football fan nut job territory.

Pope went to a S16 year 1…which was a tall task for anyone with that roster and probably greatest conference in history of CBB.

Who all did MB offer? Drew, Hurley and who else. I'd really like to know who got offered the job.

 

[One2Three]

MB offered every top guy out there and they all said no because of this type of petulant child behavior BS.

Michigan fans would not be melting down in year 2!

Y’all are crossing into Bama and Deep South football fan nut job territory.

Pope went to a S16 year 1…which was a tall task for anyone with that roster and probably greatest conference in history of CBB.

Why lie for Mitch Barnhart of all people?

 

[yoshukai]

MB offered every top guy out there and they all said no because of this type of petulant child behavior BS.

Michigan fans would not be melting down in year 2!

Y’all are crossing into Bama and Deep South football fan nut job territory.

Pope went to a S16 year 1…which was a tall task for anyone with that roster and probably greatest conference in history of CBB.

Pretty sure he only offered Hurely and Drew before going all in on Pope . But keep blaming the fans if it makes you feel better.

 

[UKBB4Ever]

Who all did MB offer? Drew, Hurley and who else. I'd really like to know who got offered the job.

The only offers were Drew and Pope

 

[TeamAmerica]

If Indiana had fired Woodson a year earlier he probably would be there.

 

[CardFanVA]

PK has #11 UofL at 8 - 1 and was also hired at the same time as May/Pope…but took over a dumpster fire from KP. May was down to UofL & Mich…but was uncomfortable with the fanbase’s Manical focus on basketball at UofL…so no way he goes to UofK.

 

[OGtruebluewildcat]

This is Millers first year at Texas.

My bad I thought he’d been there 2 years already.

 

[OGtruebluewildcat]

Who all did MB offer? Drew, Hurley and who else. I'd really like to know who got offered the job.

Why lie for Mitch Barnhart of all people?

Pretty sure he only offered Hurely and Drew before going all in on Pope . But keep blaming the fans if it makes you feel better.

Everyone in the country knew the UK job was open.

If any of the more desired names were remotely interested in coaching at a place in which they would be on the hot seat in year 2…they’d have called.

But places that run off HOF championship winning coaches aren’t sought after in the era in which a coach can make multi millions and win a title or at least get to late rounds at pretty much any program.

 

[UKbrassowTipIn93]

Miller is a very good coach.

Had already signed with Texas before Cal officially rolled out.

Although, I do not remember him being atop any wish/short list around here given his last few years at Zona.

Didn't he get fired for the same scandal that afflicted Louisville the 2nd time

 

[One2Three]

Everyone in the country knew the UK job was open.

If any of the more desired names were remotely interested in coaching at a place in which they would be on the hot seat in year 2…they’d have called.

But places that run off HOF championship winning coaches aren’t sought after in the era in which a coach can make multi millions and win a title or at least get to late rounds at pretty much any program.

So you don’t have any proof. You’re just lying to fit whatever agenda you’re trying to push.

Meanwhile LSU hired Lane Kiffin after their governor fired their coach.

No other program is paying $20 million in basketball. Even in football only like maybe the top 2 or 3 are paying that kind of money.

 

[UKbrassowTipIn93]

No. You put the full court press on Oates. He fits the trend of coaches who win at Kentucky in the modern era. No titles, been to a final four. Wants to win. At an inferior program. I don’t understand this longing for Pearl but he only works as a head coach with a team to bring. He’s not going to take players from his kid and he still has a contract with Auburn. I don’t know where this Pearl push came from but unless his kid leaves Auburn to come with him Pearl is retired. He would probably want to bring his kid to take over after him. Pearl retired for a reason and it isn’t to jump back into coaching. He has a health problem or something.

"I've got three daughters. They all like it here in Tuscaloosa," he told Bleacher Report. "My oldest, Lexi, is going into her junior year here [at Alabama]. I haven't had to move a ton in my profession, in college. A lot of these guys are moving every couple of years. I'm fortunate I didn't have to do that. I went to Buffalo with Bobby Hurley. I trusted the Hurley family. They're basketball royalty. I didn't want to move my familyhen have to keep moving. We were fortunate we won big and in Year 2 we went to the first NCAA tournament in Buffalo history. I got the head job. So I was there six years. I've been here five. I din't really want to move

"I also felt we just made a Final Four. Greg Byrne is one of the best ADs in the country. I'd love to work with him the rest of my career, to be honest with you," Oats said. "And he took care of me. I'm not the highest-paid coach in the league. I didn't ask for that. But I'm making a lot more money than I'd ever thought I'd make. And they've made it clear they want to keep me here."

"I think we've got a chance to win a national championship at Alabama, and I think it would mean a lot more winning one here than maybe it would be winning one somewhere where they've won with lots of different coaches over a period of time. It's almost expected at a place like Kentucky. If you don't make the Final Four, they're gonna -- you had a disappointing year, to be honest with you. John Calipari is a pretty good coach. He's won a lot of games. He's won everywhere he's been, and they weren't happy. I mean, he won a national championship."

Again, im sure firing a guy after 2 years, one who doesn't also have off court issues like BG, will be super appetizing to tons of coaches

 

[yoshukai]

Everyone in the country knew the UK job was open.

If any of the more desired names were remotely interested in coaching at a place in which they would be on the hot seat in year 2…they’d have called.

But places that run off HOF championship winning coaches aren’t sought after in the era in which a coach can make multi millions and win a title or at least get to late rounds at pretty much any program.

You realize that the vast majority of coaches in the HOF were either fired or forced to retire before they wanted because they were a shell of what they once were , right?

College basketball coaches knew that Calipari had ONE ncaa tournament win in his last five years. Most of them didn’t respect him anyway.

But keep blaming the fans if it makes you feel better.

 

[Tri-Countycat]

MB offered every top guy out there and they all said no because of this type of petulant child behavior BS.

Michigan fans would not be melting down in year 2!

Y’all are crossing into Bama and Deep South football fan nut job territory.

Pope went to a S16 year 1…which was a tall task for anyone with that roster and probably greatest conference in history of CBB.

I didn’t realize Scott Drew and Hurley was everyone in the country. Cool

 

[Tri-Countycat]

I would rather have the UL coach than Pope (and I really don’t want him either).

At least he had won 11 conference championships.

 

[bbnkat02]

May should absolutely be a top candidate if Pope doesn’t right this ship quickly. He could honestly hover around .500 overall by the end of this year.

Problem is Michigan could easily outspend us. And with NIL it's possible to win a title just about anywhere now. Kills my soul to say it, but why come here where pressure is much higher?

 

[OGtruebluewildcat]

So you don’t have any proof. You’re just lying to fit whatever agenda you’re trying to push.

Meanwhile LSU hired Lane Kiffin after their governor fired their coach.

No other program is paying $20 million in basketball. Even in football only like maybe the top 2 or 3 are paying that kind of money.

Im not trying to push any agenda.

You have no proof as to what coaches were and we’re not communicated with.

I am using reasonable logic that says when UK basketball opens, folks know. How in depth any communication was, who knows.

Hurley and Drew were. It was thought that maybe Jay Wright, Billy Donovan were also on a list.

Since you’re Mr. Proof beyond a shadow of doubt, go ahead and present evidence as to who was contacted and who wasn’t. So we’re all on the same page.

What does NIL matter when folks are looking for your replacement after a sweet 16?!

Again, everyone knows what Kentucky basketball is and spends. Apparently folks weren’t interested.

Can hardly blame them given this board.

Win every game and do not say or suggest anything that cannot be proven with witnesses, and documents signed with blood.