Shooting 40% vs 22% during that stretch would have changed a lot. Who started didn’t really matter.
Kentucky @ Louisville Game Thread
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And? Where was he on everyone else’s list? Not sure when he decided to sign is all that relevant except for bidding.
KSR Rapid Reaction —- they put this one on coaching. Said Kelsey outcoached Pope. You better go cancel them, champ. Go tell them they are delusional lol
I think when you get behind so much so quick it does change how a player would play. How much were we down when Lowe checked in? I feel like if he’s there at 0-0 maybe he follows the game plan a little better without trying to be a hero.
Im not disagreeing with you just feel like he should of started.
he never entered the transfer portal.
Who? This is a panel of HOF coaches? LOL!!! Champ, you need to find a better spin. We turned the ball over too much. We didn’t hit free throws. That and nothing to do with coaching lost that game.
Disagree on the turnovers. Forcing the pace against a Louisville team that was playing far too aggressive led to those turnovers. Free throws I agree and that remains a concern about this team. Can we make our FTs in crucial situations?
Oweh is who I was talking about. He was the last player to commit to us. Hes our highest paid player.
14 vs 6 on turnovers and 12 versus 22 on Fts. Those 2 stats got us beat. A few turnovers were forced by pressure. The majority were forced by half court play from tossing the ball around the perimeter with poor spacing. Classic case of nerves. As far as points off turnovers, I don’t have the final numbers but at one point it was grim. First half and first part of the second we had the yips plain and simple. When we got our heads on straight, we beat them. Too little to late
But he’s not really relevant to the discussion as a non portal player. JQ was the highest rated as a projected lottery pick.
As far as highest paid, that’s all hearsay. No public record of any of it.
I predicted we would lose due to untimely turnovers and free throws, although I thought Moreno would be the one missing them. Moreno made his and most everyone else missed them. I feel really good about where we are headed, so I don’t have an argument about what you said there. I disagree about the reason *why the turnovers happened but who cares about splitting the atom. Got outcoached. We are really good. We are going to be scary when Lowe, Oweh, Noah get healthier and we add JQ. No more than 6 losses —- we are stacked.
Coaching was basically irrelevant in this game. I haven’t seen a legit criticism. I saw a lot of us not executing. I don’t think Pope would encourage poor spacing. I don’t think Pope would promote players passing into areas of the court where we had no players. I don’t think he is encouraging the player to miss wide open shots. Louisville jacked threes and made them early on. We jacked threes and missed them. We got behind. We hit a few and they didn’t. We caught up. Coaching?
Our most effective approach was playing the ball in the paint or inside out. We did not push that. That is hindsight, not a legitimate coaching criticism.
If we are having this same discussion in February then you have a point. Neither of us think that will happen. The team got the yips. They didn’t recover in time. They lost. End of story
Yea I’m just talking about roster construction in general. Idc if it’s players you held over or portal players or freshman. Get better more athletic players.
You do realize that was the philosophy of the previous coach. After 2015 it was less than effective
You’re confusing “5-8 mins” with mop up. But yes, this version of Chandler is ready. As long as he shoots it like that, Aberdeen/Chandler/Oweh sprinkle in some Jasper (dude needs to mature on the court, skills are there) and Lowe (he can’t play 25-30 mins if he’s going to be that bad defensively).
The mins quandary for me last night was MO. How does he only play 18 mins? Super weird.
I disagree. Reason why, is when I go back to last year, that UK team didn't play in a hostile environment this early against a team that was elite on both ends of the court.
Sure, they won at Tennessee later in the season, but UT sucked on offense.
Also, how soon we forget what last years team looked like, in NY, against an awful Ohio State squad. We got punked by Aaron Bradshaw in that game.
For reference, I watched Bradshaw last night, playing for Memphis, against Ole Miss. He had 1 point with a minute left in the game. Had 2 free throws to tie the game, missed both. THAT guy owned us last year… .on a neutral court, not in Columbus.
We were down 18 in the first half and 20 in the 2nd half last night, fought back both times, in a true road game against a top 10 team that has a top 5 offense.
The thing I've noticed with Mark Pope teams is, they will lay a stinker out there here and there and I hope that changes. It might be because MP is too nice and might not be good at motivating, not sure, but CMP is extremely intelligent and will figure it out.
UL was called for 2 more fouls than us. This game was not about the officials. UL took the fight to us and we backed down. You can throw all the numbers you want at it but that's the story. The final score looks reasonable on paper. But they kicked our asses from opening tip to final buzzer.
There's a lot of blame to go around. Pope definitely deserves a lot of blame, as does Oweh and Lowe, their play was well below their own standards and a mile below ours.
Oweh's effort was extremely poor and Lowe made way too many errors and bad decisions for a guy that should know better.
Pope's game plan was bad from the start. You can't just have bad shooters chucking shots, those bad shots were the first passes in UL's fast breaks. Mo D should not be out there shooting, especially when we are behind.
Pope's sub patterns were pretty bad too, until they weren't. Those comebacks happened for a reason.
However, a lot of you guys were crapping all over Pope. Y'all were talking about how he accomplished nothing last year because he lost 10 games. Guys that say that, are **** fans. That's just BS.
There isn't a coach out there that would have done better having started in April with no players, or assistants. That team also played in the toughest conference ever and played several elite teams in the non con. Plus, the injuries kept happening to 2 of our best players.
Look how poorly Cal did. He actually had a roster when he moved to Arkansas and he took our best recruits.
Like I said, MP deserves plenty of criticism, but some of you guys went way too far.
Oweh's effort was extremely poor and Lowe made way too many errors and bad decisions for a guy that should know better.
Pope's game plan was bad from the start. You can't just have bad shooters chucking shots, those bad shots were the first passes in UL's fast breaks. Mo D should not be out there shooting, especially when we are behind.
Pope's sub patterns were pretty bad too, until they weren't. Those comebacks happened for a reason.
However, a lot of you guys were crapping all over Pope. Y'all were talking about how he accomplished nothing last year because he lost 10 games. Guys that say that, are **** fans. That's just BS.
There isn't a coach out there that would have done better having started in April with no players, or assistants. That team also played in the toughest conference ever and played several elite teams in the non con. Plus, the injuries kept happening to 2 of our best players.
Look how poorly Cal did. He actually had a roster when he moved to Arkansas and he took our best recruits.
Like I said, MP deserves plenty of criticism, but some of you guys went way too far.
You are correct, this game was not about the officials and not once did I say anything of the sort. YOU brought up the officials. I said the turnovers were too much to overcome, when you send them to the free throw line 31 times. UK was 12 - 16 on FT’s while UL was 21 - 31. A 9 point deficit at the stripe. Because of poor defense, NOT officiating. Also, UK had 14 turnovers leading to 19 points for UL. UL had 6 turnovers which UK turned into 10 points. A 9 point deficit for UK. 18 points down from turnovers and FT’s was too much to overcome and it was all because UK played poorly. UL was the more aggressive, more polished team on both ends of the court. They won because they wanted it and they deserved it… UK also fouled 21 times compared to UL 19. Per ESPN. Have a good day.
I didn't mean to imply that you were complaining about officials. Sorry about that.
I hope they put them in the same bracket as UK. They will not beat us again.
I feel the same about Oweh, hope were wrong, but he don't even look like the same player, as he did last year.