Kentucky would have a stronger metro if....

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..if it chose Louisville or Lexington as the State Capital. Seriously, besides maybe getting lunch in Frankfort, what does one do in Frankfort? Am I missing something? Is there something redeemable to Frankfort?

Now, if the capital was in Lou or Lex, it would've compounded economic development (ie. Indianapolis, Austin, Atlanta).

As legend goes, Frankfort was chosen because it was between Louisville and Lexington. The old timers made a mistake there.

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It chose Louisville or Lexington as the State Capital. Seriously, besides maybe getting lunch in Frankfort, what does one do in Frankfort? Am I missing something? Is there something redeemable to Frankfort?

Now, if the capital was in Lou or Lex, it would've compounded economic development (ie. Indianapolis, Austin, Atlanta).

As legend goes, Frankfort was chosen because it was between Louisville and Lexington. The old timers made a mistake there.

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They roll the sidewalks up in Frankfort at 4:30,when the state employees go home. It is a ghost town.
 

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Harrisburg, Olympia, Sacramento (I get this one though due to sheer size), Annapolis. You correctly said Atlanta which is the capital of course everyone knows that , Jefferson City, etc. Lots of capitals that aren’t biggest city. Don’t think it makes that big a difference personally.
 
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Harrisburg, Olympia, Sacramento (I get this one though due to sheer size), Annapolis. You incorrectly said Atlanta but the capital is Augusta, Jefferson City. Lots of capitals that aren’t biggest city. Don’t think it makes that big a difference personally.

Most ****** capitals are outside of major metros....

The advantage of having one in a metro is that state money is more directed through urban development and the city gets the added benefits of employment through offices, departments, etc.

Atlanta is kind of an edge case because I'd guess it's the biggest city in the US that is a capital.
 

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The bustling metropolis of Mortonsville in Woodford County pushed to move the state capitol there in the 1860s.
 

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..if it chose Louisville or Lexington as the State Capital. Seriously, besides maybe getting lunch in Frankfort, what does one do in Frankfort? Am I missing something? Is there something redeemable to Frankfort?

Now, if the capital was in Lou or Lex, it would've compounded economic development (ie. Indianapolis, Austin, Atlanta).

As legend goes, Frankfort was chosen because it was between Louisville and Lexington. The old timers made a mistake there.

Thanks for reading.
In fairness, those who chose Frankfort couldn't foresee the town being a complete ****hole.
 
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We need a hyper loop between Lex and Louisville. Don't make tickets too cheap or the bums will piss in them and that's too close of quarters
 
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..if it chose Louisville or Lexington as the State Capital. Seriously, besides maybe getting lunch in Frankfort, what does one do in Frankfort? Am I missing something? Is there something redeemable to Frankfort?

Now, if the capital was in Lou or Lex, it would've compounded economic development (ie. Indianapolis, Austin, Atlanta).

As legend goes, Frankfort was chosen because it was between Louisville and Lexington. The old timers made a mistake there.

Thanks for reading.
That's just what KY needs: A stronger, bigger government. F that shat. Only a lib would think that's a good idea.

DFW & Houston way stronger than ATX.
 
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Mid 70’s Louisville was bigger than both Indianapolis and Nashville, even with both having the capital advantage. Flash forward and both are larger, have multiple professional sports and Nashville has exploded.

The state legislatures in IN and TN were more willing to invest in their capital cities. As opposed to the rubes in Frankfort that have historically given Louisville the cold shoulder.

Former Jefferson County Attorney J Bruce Miller wrote the book “Air Ball” about Louisville’s attempt years ago to get an NBA franchise. He claimed giving Louisville the cold shoulder stemmed from Rupp’s hatred of Louisville and the majority of the state being UK fans which also happened to fill the halls of our state capital.

Having worked in Frankfort traveling the state doing audit work there's some truth in there.
 
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Generally I think capitals should be outside of the biggest cities as I think they unfairly work for the city rather than the state...but that's not necessarily true depending on the state. I think it's important to be outside the major city in states with mega cities as they are in NY or IL....and for instance Eric Adams is seemingly just as powerful as Kathy Hochul.

But to your broader point, Frankfort is a major let down of a town. Complete snoozefest. As far as it being chosen as it's halfway between lex and lou...not sure if it's true or not but sounds aboit right as I always heard each county seat was to be a days horse ride to the next one.
 
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Mid 70’s Louisville was bigger than both Indianapolis and Nashville, even with both having the capital advantage. Flash forward and both are larger, have multiple professional sports and Nashville has exploded.

The state legislatures in IN and TN were more willing to invest in their capital cities. As opposed to the rubes in Frankfort that have historically given Louisville the cold shoulder.

Former Jefferson County Attorney J Bruce Miller wrote the book “Air Ball” about Louisville’s attempt years ago to get an NBA franchise. He claimed giving Louisville the cold shoulder stemmed from Rupp’s hatred of Louisville and the majority of the state being UK fans which also happened to fill the halls of our state capital.

Having worked in Frankfort traveling the state doing audit work there's some truth in there.

Forgot about Nashville. I’d add Columbus to that list too.

I do agree with whoever mentioned no income tax. That was certainly a boom for Tennessee.

But let’s imagine that the entirety of Frankfort was in Lou or Lex. That’s pretty much the minimum economic impact of the capital being one of those cities.
 

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Forgot about Nashville. I’d add Columbus to that list too.

I do agree with whoever mentioned no income tax. That was certainly a boom for Tennessee.

But let’s imagine that the entirety of Frankfort was in Lou or Lex. That’s pretty much the minimum economic impact of the capital being one of those cities.
Columbus is growing quickly, but the fact remains that it it is the most bland, generic major city in America, and perhaps the entire world.
 

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Columbus is growing quickly, but the fact remains that it it is the most bland, generic major city in America, and perhaps the entire world.

Columbus is awesome. Amazing food and restaurants and lots of things to do. New places opening daily. Great city with a bright future, great for families, lower cost of living compared to similar size cities.
 

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At one time they only put Capital Grille restaurants in capital cities and Louisville just got one.

Maybe they know something.
 
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Mid 70’s Louisville was bigger than both Indianapolis and Nashville, even with both having the capital advantage. Flash forward and both are larger, have multiple professional sports and Nashville has exploded.

The state legislatures in IN and TN were more willing to invest in their capital cities. As opposed to the rubes in Frankfort that have historically given Louisville the cold shoulder.

Former Jefferson County Attorney J Bruce Miller wrote the book “Air Ball” about Louisville’s attempt years ago to get an NBA franchise. He claimed giving Louisville the cold shoulder stemmed from Rupp’s hatred of Louisville and the majority of the state being UK fans which also happened to fill the halls of our state capital.

Having worked in Frankfort traveling the state doing audit work there's some truth in there.
It's not just investment in cities, ill go further back than that, at one time KY and TN were very similar states, then after ww2 the creation of the Tennessee Valley Authority put electricity in the entire state among other things, allowing a diverse economy across the state. More people moving west through the cumberland gap settled in TN over KY.

Meanwhile KY stayed reliant on coal and with the growth at the time of cincinnati and there was no effort in a diversity in the economy.

But, yes, to your point...Nashville is one of, if not the fastest growing city in the US. But Memphis and Knoxville are garbage.
 

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It's not just investment in cities, ill go further back than that, at one time KY and TN were very similar states, then after ww2 the creation of the Tennessee Valley Authority put electricity in the entire state among other things, allowing a diverse economy across the state. More people moving west through the cumberland gap settled in TN over KY.

Meanwhile KY stayed reliant on coal and with the growth at the time of cincinnati and there was no effort in a diversity in the economy.

But, yes, to your point...Nashville is one of, if not the fastest growing city in the US. But Memphis and Knoxville are garbage.
Let's just call it what it is, Memphis is a prison without walls.
 

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Columbus is awesome. Amazing food and restaurants and lots of things to do. New places opening daily. Great city with a bright future, great for families, lower cost of living compared to similar size cities.
Yea, I actually like Columbus. It's just a solid midwestern city, but it's a place I could live if it wasn't for Ohio State fans
 
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Kentucky would be better off if you:

started at the southern border of McCracken Co. and drew a straight line east, stopping at the eastern edge of Pulaski Co. and then drew another line UP, to the eastern edge of Mason Co.

Anything outside of that, just yard sale it. A smaller, LEANER Kentucky.
 

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I agree with the OP pretty strongly here. Any economic or catalytic impact of having the State Capitol in a place like Frankfort is wasted or at least limited. Having it in Lexington or Louisville improves those cities significantly, and Frankfort isn't really impacted because it doesn't provide or offer much to begin with. Not a slight on Frankfort, as this would be the case with any small town.
 
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It's not just investment in cities, ill go further back than that, at one time KY and TN were very similar states, then after ww2 the creation of the Tennessee Valley Authority put electricity in the entire state among other things, allowing a diverse economy across the state. More people moving west through the cumberland gap settled in TN over KY.

Meanwhile KY stayed reliant on coal and with the growth at the time of cincinnati and there was no effort in a diversity in the economy.

But, yes, to your point...Nashville is one of, if not the fastest growing city in the US. But Memphis and Knoxville are garbage.

Maybe 15 years ago, Louisville and Nashville were about equal footing on the national conversation. Then Nashville took off.

Louisville suffers from atrocious leadership at least during that time. Even with the explosion of bourbon culture, Louisville hasnt gained much traction on the national level at least as a place to move.
 

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-Columbus is the municipal equivalent of the color taupe.

Rudd come on down to columbus and let me show you what’s up - guarantee I can get that color up to agreeable gray. Would rather hang out with you than Wayne anyway
 
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Maybe 15 years ago, Louisville and Nashville were about equal footing on the national conversation. Then Nashville took off.

Louisville suffers from atrocious leadership at least during that time. Even with the explosion of bourbon culture, Louisville hasnt gained much traction on the national level at least as a place to move.
Been more like 30 years since they were somewhat equal. The 90s is when Nashville went aggressive into pro sports and HCA starting blowing up setting the foundation to become a healthcare hub. That’s also the era when Louisville was doubling down on being a college town and letting UofL run the city for the next couple decades.
 

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Maybe 15 years ago, Louisville and Nashville were about equal footing on the national conversation. Then Nashville took off.

Louisville suffers from atrocious leadership at least during that time. Even with the explosion of bourbon culture, Louisville hasnt gained much traction on the national level at least as a place to move.
I can't pretend to be a city growth expert. But I think some blame is on the University of Louisville.

Nashville has added the Predators of the NHL and Titans. They also started hosting SEC tournament and NCAA tournament and a dozen big concerts per year. Also, you have Vanderbilt attracting high achieving kids from a wide area.

Yum center opens and UL blocks nba expansion. Maybe have two concerts a year. And now no one goes to their basketball games. And while a Louisville degree is no less legitimate, it's not necessarily attracting young people in to the city.