KY underachievers

Willcampbell

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Don't know how to post link, but ESPN has called KY biggest underachievers in college hoops. That should ruffle some Rupps!
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UK is in a class their own in terms of recruiting. There's no one to compare them to in terms of success in the one and done model. I think they're doing just fine. My one suggestion is that Coach Cal let a real X's and O's guy take over practices and in game decisions. I don't think he's using his guys the best way possible, but it's hard to claim that with any certainty.
 

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I disagree with Kentucky here. They had one terrible year after their natty but they still have four final fours and a championship in 5 years. Cmon.

What about Kansas? Or Arizona?

This article just wreaks of trying to get clicks

I'm with you. I'd love for Duke to have had that same success the past 6 years. I'll take the two titles all day, but we've had some underachieving squads as well. I'd say Kansas and UCLA have done FAR less with comparable talent.
 

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I'm with you. I'd love for Duke to have had that same success the past 6 years. I'll take the two titles all day, but we've had some underachieving squads as well. I'd say Kansas and UCLA have done FAR less with comparable talent.
Especially Kansas, I agree.
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PS: It's a sign of this board's fairness and intelligence not to leap all over to bash KY. Well done ladies and gentlemen.
 
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I disagree with Kentucky here. They had one terrible year after their natty but they still have four final fours and a championship in 5 years. Cmon.

What about Kansas? Or Arizona?

This article just wreaks of trying to get clicks

Exactly. Just like the article claiming Calipari took a jab at K. Something out of nothing.
 

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I think those cases are different. I think its clear it was a jab at K. This story just doesn't add up.

Right. What I was implying was that even if it was a jab at K it was made to be more than it was. The only similarities I was suggesting was that both cases were just designed to get clicks and stir the pot.
 

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I think those cases are different. I think its clear it was a jab at K. This story just doesn't add up.

I'm in this camp. What are they supposed to do? Hug and help each other get the top recruits?! I'd rather our enemies take shots. It makes our success look even better to fans and recruits.
 
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This offseason, Uk has had 2 transfers, Charles Matthews (top 50 recruit last year, would have been a good 4 year player) and now Marcus Lee.

If we had 2 transfers in one season, Rupp Rafters would be going nuts!
 

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Nah they're going to go 40-0 and get #9 this season, Briscoe just came back. LOL! The kid who made about 5% of his free throws and can't hit the broad side of a barn, has returned to Lexington. They actually think Briscoe is like the key component to their team winning it all when just last year they dogged on him the entire season.
 

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UK still has the raw talent to be very good. But, they are literally only returning two consistent rotation players from last year's team (Briscoe, Willis) -- and really only 1 returning guy (Briscoe) who has the talent-level to be much more than a nice backup at a high-level program. For a program like UK, which often has more 5*s on the bench than some conferences, next year's team really doesn't have the depth of experienced talent that you'd expect from them. Maybe the freshmen are good enough to paper over that. But, as good as Cal as been with freshmen, next year's UK team is going to be extremely young by even their own standards. If you look at their best teams under Cal., really only 09-10 was anywhere close to as young -- but even that team had a Jr. Patrick Patterson (a solid rotation player on an NBA playoff team) + the unusual benefit of clearly having the top 2 talents in that year's class (Wall, Cousins).
 

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Completely disagree with the article as well. 4 final fours, 2 national title appearances, and 1 championship in 6 years is pretty impressive. Not to mention a near perfect season. Still, I love that the article was written just because I love to see that fanbase go nuts. Anybody know the other schools that were mentioned in the article?
 

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Totally disagree with the article. On the other hand, watching lunatics (the UK fans) pull their hair out over something like this is funny. So kudos to the writer. :p
 

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UK still has the raw talent to be very good. But, they are literally only returning two consistent rotation players from last year's team (Briscoe, Willis) -- and really only 1 returning guy (Briscoe) who has the talent-level to be much more than a nice backup at a high-level program. For a program like UK, which often has more 5*s on the bench than some conferences, next year's team really doesn't have the depth of experienced talent that you'd expect from them. Maybe the freshmen are good enough to paper over that. But, as good as Cal as been with freshmen, next year's UK team is going to be extremely young by even their own standards. If you look at their best teams under Cal., really only 09-10 was anywhere close to as young -- but even that team had a Jr. Patrick Patterson (a solid rotation player on an NBA playoff team) + the unusual benefit of clearly having the top 2 talents in that year's class (Wall, Cousins).

On top of that, 3 guards isn't enough to carry you over the jump. Especially considering how chocked full of wing talent this recruiting class was. UK will outsize a lot of weak SEC teams this season, but much like the 39-1 squad, the right mix of teamwork, hustle and guard play will win the day.
 

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I simply think they suffer from a lack of experienced leadership on those teams. I don't think that's a secret.

Also, what do they care about that? Their coach has made it clear that getting kids to the NBA is a higher priority than championships.
 

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Winning titles is difficult. Made even more difficult by having young teams every year. Kentucky has done really well lately and I do not agree with this article at all. However I am glad it was not Duke they were focusing on.
 

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This isn't related to the topic specifically but it has to do with UK but I just saw on the main board and RR that Lee withdrew his name from the draft but is transferring from UK to go to school out West to be closer to family.
 

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Does this put to rest the theory that Bolden was just waiting to see if playing time would open up at either Duke or Kentucky before committing somewhere? Regardless, UK loses more experience and just brings back Briscoe, who is a Nate Britt clone. Same old, same old: run through the SEC and out when they finally meet a team that isn't a doormat
 

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I like this new thread over at RR: IS UK preseason #1 with Briscoe?

Then reality sets in with this comment:
"No offense, but a returning guard who shot 13.5% from three is absolutely not going to make us PS1."
Yeah...about that...
 

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If anything it means Monk or Fox would be on the bench when Briscoe is on the floor, unless you want to roll out Monk at the 3
 

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I like this new thread over at RR: IS UK preseason #1 with Briscoe?

Then reality sets in with this comment:
"No offense, but a returning guard who shot 13.5% from three is absolutely not going to make us PS1."
I saw that thread and my first thought was "yeah ok" then when I saw that comment I had to laugh because it shows that there are at least some sane posters on RR.
 

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Sorry, Will. I'm guessing my sarcasm didn't come out enough.

I'm saying that he wanted to go to the NBA, where he can't choose what part of the country he's living in. Yet, he says he's transferring out West to be close to family. There's no way that's the main reason he's transferring.
No prob.
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Nah they're going to go 40-0 and get #9 this season, Briscoe just came back. LOL! The kid who made about 5% of his free throws and can't hit the broad side of a barn, has returned to Lexington. They actually think Briscoe is like the key component to their team winning it all when just last year they dogged on him the entire season.
Actually UK fans loved Briscoe last season. Yes, it drove us nuts that he couldn;t shoot on the wing or FT's, but he can play. He takes the ball to the rm like a beast. He is a lockdown defender, he rebounds well and provides leadershi/ He is a key component to nest season team. If he shot well last season he would have easily been a first round pick
 

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Actually UK fans loved Briscoe last season. Yes, it drove us nuts that he couldn;t shoot on the wing or FT's, but he can play. He takes the ball to the rm like a beast. He is a lockdown defender, he rebounds well and provides leadershi/ He is a key component to nest season team. If he shot well last season he would have easily been a first round pick
It's not a lie if you believe.

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