Langborg Official - 12 of 13 roster spots full ....

NJCat

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Boo is gonna be jealous when he sees the range on some of those 3's.......
 

ohiovalleycat

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Undergradate degree from Prinecton, Prospective graduate degree from Northwestern. Langborg setting himself up for life regardless of what happens with basketball.
 

Deeringfish

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Don't know if best. Just know it is more of scholarships spots filled than we have had in a while
That seems like an important trend to me. How many teams usually play short handed even before the injuries start.
 

PurpleWhiteBoy

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That seems like an important trend to me. How many teams usually play short handed even before the injuries start.

Is it possible that Chris Collins has figured out what he is selling?
I don't mean that to be critical, I've always thought of him as a pretty good recruiter...

But most of the time, this quickly devolves into a "we can't compete because of admissions" type of defeatism.

Others (including me) have held out that NU actually can compete consistently in the Big Ten, because...

a) The upgrade in facilities removes a major barrier in recruiting.
b) The transfer portal works strongly in our favor for grad students and under-recruited guys with one year of experience at mid-major or lower levels.
c) Northwestern's academic excellence and Power 6 competition put it in an elite position, with few competitors, to appeal to the parents of the prospective recruit.

So if you stop trying to recruit NBA first rounders and focus on good, fairly smart players who value the chance to develop and compete at a high level, while earning a prestigious college degree, you just might find sustained competitiveness. That provides the platform for further success. Something others have deemed impossible.
 

NJCat

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So if you stop trying to recruit NBA first rounders and focus on good, fairly smart players who value the chance to develop and compete at a high level, while earning a prestigious college degree, you just might find sustained competitiveness. That provides the platform for further success. Something others have deemed impossible.
Agree with your main point.

To be fair, Collins has never tried to recruit NBA first rounders, with the notable exceptions of PBJ and Christie, who had a background with NU.
 
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PurpleWhiteBoy

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Agree with your main point.

To be fair, Collins has never tried to recruit NBA first rounders, with the notable exceptions of PBJ and Christie, who has a background with NU.
I guess thats somewhat true... but isn't admissions a pretty solid filter for a lot of those guys?

My impression was that we used to offer guys who we had no real chance of getting, because they were all about basketball and were certain they'd be playing in the NBA. (whether they made it or not)

Oh the irony if Nicholson has a breakthrough season and ends up in the NBA draft...
 

Deeringfish

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I guess thats somewhat true... but isn't admissions a pretty solid filter for a lot of those guys?

My impression was that we used to offer guys who we had no real chance of getting, because they were all about basketball and were certain they'd be playing in the NBA. (whether they made it or not)

Oh the irony if Nicholson has a breakthrough season and ends up in the NBA draft...
Doesn't he have two more seasons?
 

catcrazy

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He needs an offensive repertoire and more range. He is more mobile than Edey but not really still a big man for the current nba
 
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He needs an offensive repertoire and more range. He is more mobile than Edey but not really still a big man for the current nba

Come to think of it I can't remember ever seeing him take or make a jump shot/field goal. On top of that his post game needs a ton of work outside of flushing alley oops or putbacks.
 

PurpleWhiteBoy

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Doesn't he have two more seasons?
Nicholson does have two seasons of eligibility, but we have not had too many guys stick around for 5 years. Buie is doing it, presumably with financial incentives.

Beran, Nance, Young, Audige, Gaines and Greer all left after 4 years in Evanston. All had eligibility.

I'd imagine Big Matt will be lighting up the grad transfer radar after his senior season, depending on how much he improves (which I suspect will be "significantly").
 

Deeringfish

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Nicholson does have two seasons of eligibility, but we have not had too many guys stick around for 5 years. Buie is doing it, presumably with financial incentives.

Beran, Nance, Young, Audige, Gaines and Greer all left after 4 years in Evanston. All had eligibility.

I'd imagine Big Matt will be lighting up the grad transfer radar after his senior season, depending on how much he improves (which I suspect will be "significantly").
Seems to me because centers need a little more time to develop, big guys might play 5 years to reach their potential. Sort of like linemen in football. We saw obvious improvement in his game over the season last year. Unless the pros are begging hime to come out at the end of this year one more year could let him show some dominance.
 

clarificationcat

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He needs an offensive repertoire and more range. He is more mobile than Edey but not really still a big man for the current nba
Zach Edey is taller than almost everybody in the NBA so he should be able to get his shot off anytime he gets position. And he has great touch. I would be really surprised if he can't get 10-15 minutes in the NBA.

There are lots of guys in the NBA that are close to Matt's height and many are better athletes. It's hard to project a big guy who has no moves around the basket and is not an extraordinary rebounder and shot blocker. Like I said in another post, I would be really happy if he just learned to score off of two feet around the basket. It would be great if he can be another weapon on offense when he has great position under the basket. A pump fake and a dunk would be really useful. There are only so many pick and roll dunks you can get against a decent defense. I think we pushed the limits against UCLA.

One of the great things about our defense was how few easy baskets they gave up. A credit to our big men (especially Matt).
 

CappyNU

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Zach Edey is taller than almost everybody in the NBA so he should be able to get his shot off anytime he gets position. And he has great touch. I would be really surprised if he can't get 10-15 minutes in the NBA.

There are lots of guys in the NBA that are close to Matt's height and many are better athletes. It's hard to project a big guy who has no moves around the basket and is not an extraordinary rebounder and shot blocker. Like I said in another post, I would be really happy if he just learned to score off of two feet around the basket. It would be great if he can be another weapon on offense when he has great position under the basket. A pump fake and a dunk would be really useful. There are only so many pick and roll dunks you can get against a decent defense. I think we pushed the limits against UCLA.

One of the great things about our defense was how few easy baskets they gave up. A credit to our big men (especially Matt).
Zach Edey would be, at best, Boban Marjanovic. Granted, he has stuck around in the NBA for 8 seasons, but has averaged more than 10 mpg exactly one season.
 

clarificationcat

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Zach Edey would be, at best, Boban Marjanovic. Granted, he has stuck around in the NBA for 8 seasons, but has averaged more than 10 mpg exactly one season.
Edey has a much, much better shot than Boban. How many players in the NBA can stop Edey’s hook shot without help? I’m not sure Boban would be an All- American if he played in college next season. Edey was the best player in college and he’s big for the NBA. Seems like the right organization could find a role for him. But the draft projections seem to agree with you.
 

Purple Pile Driver

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Seems to me because centers need a little more time to develop, big guys might play 5 years to reach their potential. Sort of like linemen in football. We saw obvious improvement in his game over the season last year. Unless the pros are begging hime to come out at the end of this year one more year could let him show some dominance.
I would be stunned in Big Matt ever saw a NBA floor from anywhere other than his seat.

I think we should just celebrate Big Matt for what he has become; a very strong defender that can move the ball on offense and flush the ally oops. That is a good player to have.
 

ballerog711

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Edey has a much, much better shot than Boban. How many players in the NBA can stop Edey’s hook shot without help? I’m not sure Boban would be an All- American if he played in college next season. Edey was the best player in college and he’s big for the NBA. Seems like the right organization could find a role for him. But the draft projections seem to agree with you.
Edey cannot defend anyone at the pro level different defensive rules. Not sure he can p,ay at that pace.
 

PurpleWhiteBoy

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I would be stunned in Big Matt ever saw a NBA floor from anywhere other than his seat.

I think we should just celebrate Big Matt for what he has become; a very strong defender that can move the ball on offense and flush the ally oops. That is a good player to have.
The worthwhile player you describe is now Nicholson's floor. Meaning next year's Matt is likely to be better than that guy (who was essentially a Big Ten rookie).

If Nicholson doesn't develop a couple effective post moves and increase his rebounds per minute, it will be disappointing.
 

hdhntr1

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Seems to me because centers need a little more time to develop, big guys might play 5 years to reach their potential. Sort of like linemen in football. We saw obvious improvement in his game over the season last year. Unless the pros are begging hime to come out at the end of this year one more year could let him show some dominance.
Under normal conditions they only get to play 4 (in 5) We should be getting done with the Covid exemptions
 

hdhntr1

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He doesn't get a red shirt year?
That is what gives a person 5 to play 4. But they only get to play 4. They can not have to burn the shirt if they play less than a certain number of games in a year but without injury exemptions I believe it is still 5 to play 4
 

Deeringfish

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That is what gives a person 5 to play 4. But they only get to play 4. They can not have to burn the shirt if they play less than a certain number of games in a year but without injury exemptions I believe it is still 5 to play 4
Yes but I thought that this year coming up was his fourth year playing three. Last year he was classified as JR 2Varsity. ?
 

hdhntr1

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Yes but I thought that this year coming up was his fourth year playing three. Last year he was classified as JR 2Varsity. ?
First need to make sure who you are talking about. (Nicholson or Lanborg) as this thread mentions both

You made the statement that Bigs need to play 5 to develop. I commented that under normal circumstances (non COVID)they are only allowed to play 4 (they have 5 years in order to be able to play those 4 with that extra year being potentially a RS year) If you mean that it really takes 5 years to fully develop, we are not in disagreement

Now if you were asking if Nicholson has two more years of eligibility left, I believe he does as he did not play his first year nor really his second but he would still have to complete the 4th year in 5 (unless injury or covid exemption) And if given the Covid exemption for one of those years, he might even still have 3 years of eligibility.

If you were talking Lanborg, I do not know how many years he actually played. Under normal circumstances if he was there for 4 years and played all 4, he would be done, Or if he played 3 he would have one year left. But if given a Covid exemption, he would have one left if he had played 4 and potentially 1 or even potentially 2 (Covid exemption) left if he had played 3
 

Deeringfish

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First need to make sure who you are talking about. (Nicholson or Lanborg) as this thread mentions both

You made the statement that Bigs need to play 5 to develop. I commented that under normal circumstances (non COVID)they are only allowed to play 4 (they have 5 years in order to be able to play those 4 with that extra year being potentially a RS year) If you mean that it really takes 5 years to fully develop, we are not in disagreement

Now if you were asking if Nicholson has two more years of eligibility left, I believe he does as he did not play his first year nor really his second but he would still have to complete the 4th year in 5 (unless injury or covid exemption) And if given the Covid exemption for one of those years, he might even still have 3 years of eligibility.

If you were talking Lanborg, I do not know how many years he actually played. Under normal circumstances if he was there for 4 years and played all 4, he would be done, Or if he played 3 he would have one year left. But if given a Covid exemption, he would have one left if he had played 4 and potentially 1 or even potentially 2 (Covid exemption) left if he had played 3
I was talking about Nicholson, sorry about the confusion.
 

Styre

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First need to make sure who you are talking about. (Nicholson or Lanborg) as this thread mentions both

You made the statement that Bigs need to play 5 to develop. I commented that under normal circumstances (non COVID)they are only allowed to play 4 (they have 5 years in order to be able to play those 4 with that extra year being potentially a RS year) If you mean that it really takes 5 years to fully develop, we are not in disagreement

Now if you were asking if Nicholson has two more years of eligibility left, I believe he does as he did not play his first year nor really his second but he would still have to complete the 4th year in 5 (unless injury or covid exemption) And if given the Covid exemption for one of those years, he might even still have 3 years of eligibility.

If you were talking Lanborg, I do not know how many years he actually played. Under normal circumstances if he was there for 4 years and played all 4, he would be done, Or if he played 3 he would have one year left. But if given a Covid exemption, he would have one left if he had played 4 and potentially 1 or even potentially 2 (Covid exemption) left if he had played 3

Nicholson has two years of eligibility left. Langborg is entering his final year of eligibility.

The COVID-19 exemption is specifically for the 2020-21 season: if you played that season, it doesn't count against your eligibility. Langborg didn't play that year (the Ivy League shut down), so it doesn't apply to him. Nicholson did, so even though he's played in 3 different seasons, only 2 of them count against eligibility.