Lanning Staying at Oregon

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Dabo would be stupid to follow Saban. The next coach will be under high pressure from the first second on the job.
 

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Fascinating.

Still can't imagine Dabo taking the job. He's making comparable money in a conference where it's much easier to win. GOR or not, with the CFP expansion, they are probably a virtual lock to make the playoffs each year. He also doesn't use the portal and is pretty adamant about that. Not sure the Bama folks will go along with that. He would catch major crap if he's as opposed to the portal as he is but then leaves himself. Anything can happen, though.
 

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Dabo would be stupid to follow Saban. The next coach will be under high pressure from the first second on the job.
I disagree. There was no less pressure on Mike Shula to win than there was on Ray Perkins. Bill Curry was the guy after the guy, and they tried to take decision rights for assistant coaches from him and didn't increase his pay after going 10-1 and a conference championship. Every coach after Bear coached in his shadows. And every coach after Saban will do the same. The time after Saban is irrelevant. They will all feel it.
 

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I disagree. There was no less pressure on Mike Shula to win than there was on Ray Perkins. Bill Curry was the guy after the guy, and they tried to take decision rights for assistant coaches from him and didn't increase his pay after going 10-1 and a conference championship. Every coach after Bear coached in his shadows. And every coach after Saban will do the same. The time after Saban is irrelevant. They will all feel it.

I think that just proves his point, though. There's always been high pressure to win there. They fired Perkins after a 10-1 win season. Curry was forced out after a 10-win season, even though win totals increased each year he was there.
 

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Fascinating.

Still can't imagine Dabo taking the job. He's making comparable money in a conference where it's much easier to win. GOR or not, with the CFP expansion, they are probably a virtual lock to make the playoffs each year. He also doesn't use the portal and is pretty adamant about that. Not sure the Bama folks will go along with that. He would catch major crap if he's as opposed to the portal as he is but then leaves himself. Anything can happen, though.
Where will Clem and the ACC be in 10 years? Where will Bama be in 10 years? I don't think he necessarily wants to leave. But he also doesn't want to coach at a place that's going to be at a $50M disadvantage to his peers. He has ZERO control over that. I was texting with a clem buddy, and he said Dabo made a comment in a presser recently that he might have a different stance on portal/NIL if he were somewhere else. That's what I've been saying from the beginning. It's not that he WON'T do it. He CAN'T. And he doesn't want to publicly paint Clem in a light that suggests they don't belong with the blue bloods. He is either going to end up a school that has the necessary resources to compete, or the NFL. As he told tylerrrrrrr, he's never failed at anything in his life, and he ain't going to start now. He will do whatever is necessary to protect his personal brand. Make not mistake about that.
 

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Fascinating.

Still can't imagine Dabo taking the job. He's making comparable money in a conference where it's much easier to win. GOR or not, with the CFP expansion, they are probably a virtual lock to make the playoffs each year. He also doesn't use the portal and is pretty adamant about that. Not sure the Bama folks will go along with that. He would catch major crap if he's as opposed to the portal as he is but then leaves himself. Anything can happen, though.

This is close to my thinking. I also throw in that Alabama people have to look at this recent drop off and wonder if Dabo will succeed at a top level in an NIL/portal era.
 

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I think that just proves his point, though. There's always been high pressure to win there. They fired Perkins after a 10-1 win season. Curry was forced out after a 10-win season, even though win totals increased each year he was there.
His point was you don't want to follow Saban. I'm saying it doesn't matter who you follow. With risk comes reward.
 

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Where will Clem and the ACC be in 10 years? Where will Bama be in 10 years? I don't think he necessarily wants to leave. But he also doesn't want to coach at a place that's going to be at a $50M disadvantage to his peers. He has ZERO control over that. I was texting with a clem buddy, and he said Dabo made a comment in a presser recently that he might have a different stance on portal/NIL if he were somewhere else. That's what I've been saying from the beginning. It's not that he WON'T do it. He CAN'T. And he doesn't want to publicly paint Clem in a light that suggests they don't belong with the blue bloods. He is either going to end up a school that has the necessary resources to compete, or the NFL. As he told tylerrrrrrr, he's never failed at anything in his life, and he ain't going to start now. He will do whatever is necessary to protect his personal brand. Make not mistake about that.

We'll find out. I just don't see it happening.
 

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Losing Dabo to AL could work out for Clemson. Since Dabo seems to be losing the spark there. Imagine Dabo to AL. Then Kiffen to Clemson, triggering another hot streak. 😱 Sometimes change at the right time is good.
 

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This is close to my thinking. I also throw in that Alabama people have to look at this recent drop off and wonder if Dabo will succeed at a top level in an NIL/portal era.

I can understand why Dabo to Bama is attractive to USC fans. Clemson likely would not attract a top-top-tier coach like Bama and would almost certainly regress after Dabo leaves.

He's proved, without a doubt, that he can win titles at Clemson. It's an easier path to do so. He's already paid almost the same as Saban. Yeah, the GOR is out there, but I don't see that being a major factor. Either the ACC will survive or Clemson lands in the SEC or Big 10.
 

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There are only two guys who could come in where you can guarantee an national championship at Bama - and who wouldn't feel any pressure following Saban (because they're sociopaths): Jim Harbaugh and Urban Meyer. From all account Harbaugh already has one foot in an NFL door. Could Bama fans stomach Meyer?

After that there are no guarantees, but Dabo seems like the only coach who is a proven national champion caliber coach who may be tired of where he is currently.
 
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There are only two guys who could come in where you can guarantee an national championship at Bama - and who wouldn't feel any pressure following Saban (because they're sociopaths): Jim Harbaugh and Urban Meyer. From all account Harbaugh already has one foot in an NFL door. Could Bama fans stomach Meyer?

After that there are no guarantees, but Dabo seems like the only coach who is a proven national champion caliber coach who may be tired of where he is currently.

Good call. I had forgotten all about Urban. Urban is the one guy I could see going in there and not have any drop-off. Shoot, he might win the title next year. He's still just 59.
 

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Losing Dabo to AL could work out for Clemson. Since Dabo seems to be losing the spark there. Imagine Dabo to AL. Then Kiffen to Clemson, triggering another hot streak. 😱 Sometimes change at the right time is good.
I don't think they'd command a Kiffin type candidate. Honestly I think they've got their replacement on staff...Garrett Riley. No legit, proven guy is going into that situation with the future of the ACC unknown. Just my opinion.
 

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Where will Clem and the ACC be in 10 years? Where will Bama be in 10 years? I don't think he necessarily wants to leave. But he also doesn't want to coach at a place that's going to be at a $50M disadvantage to his peers. He has ZERO control over that. I was texting with a clem buddy, and he said Dabo made a comment in a presser recently that he might have a different stance on portal/NIL if he were somewhere else. That's what I've been saying from the beginning. It's not that he WON'T do it. He CAN'T. And he doesn't want to publicly paint Clem in a light that suggests they don't belong with the blue bloods. He is either going to end up a school that has the necessary resources to compete, or the NFL. As he told tylerrrrrrr, he's never failed at anything in his life, and he ain't going to start now. He will do whatever is necessary to protect his personal brand. Make not mistake about that.
I have a very good idea as to where both will be in 10 years or less.

As for Dabo going to Bama, this makes for good debate, but obviously no one knows. If I was a betting man (of which I am not), I would not put money on Dabo going, assuming he gets asked.
 
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Born in Birmingham, Bama Grad, Childhood dream - why would you not go for it regardless of who your predecessor was? If Bama is interested, probably your only opportunity.
 

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I have a very good idea as to where both will be in 10 years or less.

As for Dabo going to Bama, this makes for good debate, but obviously no one knows. If I was a betting man (of which I am not), I would not put money on Dabo going, assuming he gets asked.
You may have an idea of where they want to be, but it's all in the hands of lawyers and judges. So how it ends up is anybody's guess. Pretty good idea of where Bama will be regardless.
 

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I have a very good idea as to where both will be in 10 years or less.

As for Dabo going to Bama, this makes for good debate, but obviously no one knows. If I was a betting man (of which I am not), I would not put money on Dabo going, assuming he gets asked.

I would also not put money on it.

Dabo's 54. He's spent 22 years of his life at Clemson.

I know he's from Birmingham and all that, but 41% of his life has been spent on staff at Clemson.

Dabo is Clemson’s Nick Saban. He is the standard. If he goes to Alabama, he will be relentlessly compared to Saban. His record after one year will be compared to Saban‘s record after one year. His record after two years will be compared to Saban’s record after two years. His bowl game record will be compared to Saban’s.
 

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Born in Birmingham, Bama Grad, Childhood dream - why would you not go for it regardless of who your predecessor was? If Bama is interested, probably your only opportunity.
At what point is home where you make it? As the poster states above a large portion of his life has been spent in Clemson. That’s memories. All his kids grew up there.
 

18IsTheMan

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At what point is home where you make it? As the poster states above a large portion of his life has been spent in Clemson. That’s memories. All his kids grew up there.

I'm sure most are familiar with the saying "You can't go home again".

Willie Taggart landed his dream job at FSU and it turned into a nightmare. Some dreams are worth pursuing. Some are better left as dreams.
 

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You may have an idea of where they want to be, but it's all in the hands of lawyers and judges. So how it ends up is anybody's guess. Pretty good idea of where Bama will be regardless.
There may be preferences of where they want to be, but it will not be where they are now.
 

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The smart people in good situations won't touch it. It's like jumping into an active volcano - Kilauea active. I'd love to see them dangle this in front of Urban Meyer, just to see what happens.
 

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I'm sure most are familiar with the saying "You can't go home again".

Willie Taggart landed his dream job at FSU and it turned into a nightmare. Some dreams are worth pursuing. Some are better left as dreams.
That was one of the dumb@$$ hirings of all time - by two different bigtime schools.
 
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There are only two guys who could come in where you can guarantee an national championship at Bama - and who wouldn't feel any pressure following Saban (because they're sociopaths): Jim Harbaugh and Urban Meyer. From all account Harbaugh already has one foot in an NFL door. Could Bama fans stomach Meyer?

After that there are no guarantees, but Dabo seems like the only coach who is a proven national champion caliber coach who may be tired of where he is currently.
I had posted #25 just awhile ago, so you beat me to this regarding Meyer. The only place Harbaugh coaches in college is where he is.
 

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The smart people in good situations won't touch it. It's like jumping into an active volcano - Kilauea active. I'd love to see them dangle this in front of Urban Meyer, just to see what happens.
That would be worth a big bowl of popcorn.
 
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Prestonyte

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Would Bama consider Drinkwitz?
He's demonstrated a positive upward trajectory at Mizzou.
 

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If you look back in history Alabama has not always landed the hottest name out there.I mean they had Mike Dubose,Dennis Franchione ,Mike Price and others.Just don’t expect every coach to jump at the Alabama job.I think Carolina landed Holtz and Spurrier because there wasn’t that giant coaching figure in Carolina’s past that they would always be compared to.They could make their own way here but that ain’t happening st Bama.
 

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If you look back in history Alabama has not always landed the hottest name out there.I mean they had Mike Dubose,Dennis Franchione ,Mike Price and others.Just don’t expect every coach to jump at the Alabama job.I think Carolina landed Holtz and Spurrier because there wasn’t that giant coaching figure in Carolina’s past that they would always be compared to.They could make their own way here but that ain’t happening st Bama.
Saban’s extreme level of success could actually be a drawback for them
 

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The I more I think about it ,I think Kifffin makes the most sense for Alabama.A clear step up from Ole Miss to Alabama.Not sure Lane thinks he can win NC at Ole Miss while I think the other candidates being talked about all think they have a legit shot at winnning it all where they are now.
 

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As far as Kiffin is concerned, it would be a measured approach for him. Ole Miss was one of the top 5, probably top 3 teams in the SEC last season along with UGA, Bama, LSU and MIzzou. He could bet on Bama taking a step back if they don't land the right hire and jump them. With east/west divisions going away, Ole Miss is set up at this point to be positioned as #2 or #3, depending on who Bama hires. He has a lot of Spurrier ego in him and maybe that leads him to stay at Ole Miss and try to get it done there to show everyone he doesn't need to go to Bama to reach that pinnacle. If he ends up at Bama, with that donor pool and pedigree, Lord help us all.