I disagree. There was no less pressure on Mike Shula to win than there was on Ray Perkins. Bill Curry was the guy after the guy, and they tried to take decision rights for assistant coaches from him and didn't increase his pay after going 10-1 and a conference championship. Every coach after Bear coached in his shadows. And every coach after Saban will do the same. The time after Saban is irrelevant. They will all feel it.Dabo would be stupid to follow Saban. The next coach will be under high pressure from the first second on the job.
I disagree. There was no less pressure on Mike Shula to win than there was on Ray Perkins. Bill Curry was the guy after the guy, and they tried to take decision rights for assistant coaches from him and didn't increase his pay after going 10-1 and a conference championship. Every coach after Bear coached in his shadows. And every coach after Saban will do the same. The time after Saban is irrelevant. They will all feel it.
Where will Clem and the ACC be in 10 years? Where will Bama be in 10 years? I don't think he necessarily wants to leave. But he also doesn't want to coach at a place that's going to be at a $50M disadvantage to his peers. He has ZERO control over that. I was texting with a clem buddy, and he said Dabo made a comment in a presser recently that he might have a different stance on portal/NIL if he were somewhere else. That's what I've been saying from the beginning. It's not that he WON'T do it. He CAN'T. And he doesn't want to publicly paint Clem in a light that suggests they don't belong with the blue bloods. He is either going to end up a school that has the necessary resources to compete, or the NFL. As he told tylerrrrrrr, he's never failed at anything in his life, and he ain't going to start now. He will do whatever is necessary to protect his personal brand. Make not mistake about that.Fascinating.
Still can't imagine Dabo taking the job. He's making comparable money in a conference where it's much easier to win. GOR or not, with the CFP expansion, they are probably a virtual lock to make the playoffs each year. He also doesn't use the portal and is pretty adamant about that. Not sure the Bama folks will go along with that. He would catch major crap if he's as opposed to the portal as he is but then leaves himself. Anything can happen, though.
Fascinating.
Still can't imagine Dabo taking the job. He's making comparable money in a conference where it's much easier to win. GOR or not, with the CFP expansion, they are probably a virtual lock to make the playoffs each year. He also doesn't use the portal and is pretty adamant about that. Not sure the Bama folks will go along with that. He would catch major crap if he's as opposed to the portal as he is but then leaves himself. Anything can happen, though.
His point was you don't want to follow Saban. I'm saying it doesn't matter who you follow. With risk comes reward.I think that just proves his point, though. There's always been high pressure to win there. They fired Perkins after a 10-1 win season. Curry was forced out after a 10-win season, even though win totals increased each year he was there.
Where will Clem and the ACC be in 10 years? Where will Bama be in 10 years? I don't think he necessarily wants to leave. But he also doesn't want to coach at a place that's going to be at a $50M disadvantage to his peers. He has ZERO control over that. I was texting with a clem buddy, and he said Dabo made a comment in a presser recently that he might have a different stance on portal/NIL if he were somewhere else. That's what I've been saying from the beginning. It's not that he WON'T do it. He CAN'T. And he doesn't want to publicly paint Clem in a light that suggests they don't belong with the blue bloods. He is either going to end up a school that has the necessary resources to compete, or the NFL. As he told tylerrrrrrr, he's never failed at anything in his life, and he ain't going to start now. He will do whatever is necessary to protect his personal brand. Make not mistake about that.
His point was you don't want to follow Saban. I'm saying it doesn't matter who you follow. With risk comes reward.
This is close to my thinking. I also throw in that Alabama people have to look at this recent drop off and wonder if Dabo will succeed at a top level in an NIL/portal era.
There are only two guys who could come in where you can guarantee an national championship at Bama - and who wouldn't feel any pressure following Saban (because they're sociopaths): Jim Harbaugh and Urban Meyer. From all account Harbaugh already has one foot in an NFL door. Could Bama fans stomach Meyer?
After that there are no guarantees, but Dabo seems like the only coach who is a proven national champion caliber coach who may be tired of where he is currently.
I don't think they'd command a Kiffin type candidate. Honestly I think they've got their replacement on staff...Garrett Riley. No legit, proven guy is going into that situation with the future of the ACC unknown. Just my opinion.Losing Dabo to AL could work out for Clemson. Since Dabo seems to be losing the spark there. Imagine Dabo to AL. Then Kiffen to Clemson, triggering another hot streak.Sometimes change at the right time is good.
Do you mean like Biden after Trump? Wait. Wrong board.History does show it's never a good idea to be the man after the man.
There's always one. Always.Do you mean like Biden after Trump? Wait. Wrong board.
I have a very good idea as to where both will be in 10 years or less.Where will Clem and the ACC be in 10 years? Where will Bama be in 10 years? I don't think he necessarily wants to leave. But he also doesn't want to coach at a place that's going to be at a $50M disadvantage to his peers. He has ZERO control over that. I was texting with a clem buddy, and he said Dabo made a comment in a presser recently that he might have a different stance on portal/NIL if he were somewhere else. That's what I've been saying from the beginning. It's not that he WON'T do it. He CAN'T. And he doesn't want to publicly paint Clem in a light that suggests they don't belong with the blue bloods. He is either going to end up a school that has the necessary resources to compete, or the NFL. As he told tylerrrrrrr, he's never failed at anything in his life, and he ain't going to start now. He will do whatever is necessary to protect his personal brand. Make not mistake about that.
You may have an idea of where they want to be, but it's all in the hands of lawyers and judges. So how it ends up is anybody's guess. Pretty good idea of where Bama will be regardless.I have a very good idea as to where both will be in 10 years or less.
As for Dabo going to Bama, this makes for good debate, but obviously no one knows. If I was a betting man (of which I am not), I would not put money on Dabo going, assuming he gets asked.
I have a very good idea as to where both will be in 10 years or less.
As for Dabo going to Bama, this makes for good debate, but obviously no one knows. If I was a betting man (of which I am not), I would not put money on Dabo going, assuming he gets asked.
At what point is home where you make it? As the poster states above a large portion of his life has been spent in Clemson. That’s memories. All his kids grew up there.Born in Birmingham, Bama Grad, Childhood dream - why would you not go for it regardless of who your predecessor was? If Bama is interested, probably your only opportunity.
At what point is home where you make it? As the poster states above a large portion of his life has been spent in Clemson. That’s memories. All his kids grew up there.
There may be preferences of where they want to be, but it will not be where they are now.You may have an idea of where they want to be, but it's all in the hands of lawyers and judges. So how it ends up is anybody's guess. Pretty good idea of where Bama will be regardless.
That was one of the dumb@$$ hirings of all time - by two different bigtime schools.I'm sure most are familiar with the saying "You can't go home again".
Willie Taggart landed his dream job at FSU and it turned into a nightmare. Some dreams are worth pursuing. Some are better left as dreams.
I had posted #25 just awhile ago, so you beat me to this regarding Meyer. The only place Harbaugh coaches in college is where he is.There are only two guys who could come in where you can guarantee an national championship at Bama - and who wouldn't feel any pressure following Saban (because they're sociopaths): Jim Harbaugh and Urban Meyer. From all account Harbaugh already has one foot in an NFL door. Could Bama fans stomach Meyer?
After that there are no guarantees, but Dabo seems like the only coach who is a proven national champion caliber coach who may be tired of where he is currently.
That would be worth a big bowl of popcorn.The smart people in good situations won't touch it. It's like jumping into an active volcano - Kilauea active. I'd love to see them dangle this in front of Urban Meyer, just to see what happens.
That would be an emergency hireWould Bama consider Drinkwitz?
He's demonstrated a positive upward trajectory at Mizzou.
Saban’s extreme level of success could actually be a drawback for themIf you look back in history Alabama has not always landed the hottest name out there.I mean they had Mike Dubose,Dennis Franchione ,Mike Price and others.Just don’t expect every coach to jump at the Alabama job.I think Carolina landed Holtz and Spurrier because there wasn’t that giant coaching figure in Carolina’s past that they would always be compared to.They could make their own way here but that ain’t happening st Bama.
Especially because the next guy will be Saban's immediate successor. It's fraught with peril.Saban’s extreme level of success could actually be a drawback for them
Doesn’t help that Saban will still be around. Maybe he’ll pull a Bill Snyder.Especially because the next guy will be Saban's immediate successor. It's fraught with peril.
I think not. Bill Snyder didn't get leverage on TV. Saban will be a mainstay if he wants to be.Doesn’t help that Saban will still be around. Maybe he’ll pull a Bill Snyder.