Last Night

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Last night’s win was a lot of fun. The season hasn’t been what we or the team hoped for after last year, but they’ve clearly been more competitive late. That showed again. They struggled to guard the three in the first half and fell behind a good shooting bubble team in IU. Second half was different. The effort level, the physicality, the discipline defensively, it all tightened up. Northwestern controlled the game. They won the hustle plays, they dictated tempo, and they were the better team over the final 20. They deserved that win.

Martinelli is a beast offensively. Flat out. He’s a three level scorer now. The three ball has become a real weapon which opens up everything else. He can get downhill and play through contact. His mid range and post work are as polished as anyone in the Big Ten. What’s impressed me most is the growth in his recognition versus doubles. He’s not just trying to score over them anymore, he’s reading them and making the right pass. Defensively he’s taken a massive jump. I’d call him slightly above average on that end, which is leaps and bounds from where he started. The season might not end the way he deserves, but individually he’s having one of the best years in the league. I hope the accolades follow because they should.

West is starting to emerge. Those clutch free throws matter. His vision is improving every game. He’s seeing help earlier and making reads instead of just playing fast. He’ll still overdrive at times or try to force a pass because he has the ability to difficult plays off the bounce. The adjustment is understanding that in this league everyone can make a play too. You have to pick your spots. The weight room is going to help him a lot with finishing through contact and holding up defensively at the point of attack. Early in the year he wasn’t creating, scoring, or defending at this level. Now he is. That’s real development.

Singelton is going to be a very very good player for the Cats. Elite frame. Great size. Strong fundamentals. He’s smooth and comfortable with contact which you don’t always see from a freshman. He’ll go into his bag against developed Big Ten players and doesn’t look rushed. The next step is consistently knocking down the three to open the rest of his game. Defensively he might be their most versatile piece. He switches across positions, moves his feet well, and understands angles. That’s impressive for a freshman. He just has to clean up the hand usage and avoid unnecessary fouls. He’s solid on the glass and can handle it in space too. With Tre and West you have a fun young core.

Gelo is the most improved player in my opinion. His defense is night and day. The positioning is better which lets the athleticism actually show up. The weight room has helped him a lot with both finishing through contact and absorbing it defensively. If he finds consistency from deep he can be a very good role player in this league. Even if he doesn’t, he profiles as a high energy slashing defensive piece off the bench. That has real value.

Reid has been up and down. He creates well and he’s excellent in transition. Defensively he can struggle when he gets pinned inside without help, but he’s disruptive. He gets steals. He can guard the ball and recover in full court pressure. The swing skill is finishing at the rim. He’s streaky from three and with the pull up. If he makes defenders respect the drive and converts those layups, everything else opens up. A couple makes at the rim gets him going. He’s so good at penetrating and creating separation. If he starts finishing, he looks like a different player. Worst case that’s an energetic streaky sixth man. Best case you’re talking about two legitimate lead guards next year.

Page has also had an up and down year. In his first real minutes role he’s flashed both elite offense and rough stretches. Games like last night and against scUM show the ceiling. He can score from anywhere. Three ball, midrange, post fade, footwork on the block, straight line drives. He’s an elite passer for a five. He’s making reads and passes that some lead guards can’t make, and he was the biggest guy on the floor doing it. With his size and athleticism they’re better on the glass when he’s out there. Defensively he’s been solid when asked to protect the paint. The growth area is in hedges and communication on switches. That’s positioning and reps. If he finds consistency defensively this offseason, he profiles very well as a modern five at the next level.

This team has a lot of potential. Potential can be frustrating because it’s not results. It’s ifs. It’s projection. But this is a young team that’s developing in a tough league. The flashes have been real. I do think Reid and Page can take jumps this offseason that change the ceiling of the group. Tre and West are real building blocks. Kropp can be a solid role player. Gelo is trending the right way. There’s a high upside redshirt freshman developing behind the scenes and another solid class coming in. And Chris Collins is still one of the better coaches in the country.

Northwestern is a unique job. Academic standards. Brutal conference. Limited NIL compared to league heavyweights. That makes it harder to reload and forces you to develop and rebuild. This rebuild is promising though, even if it’s frustrating in the moment. You take the wins. You take the flashes. And you trust the development with a historic coach like Collins.

Man it’s fun beating IU this many times in a row.
 
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TheC

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I am not going to pretend I was ever anywhere near a college level player, but I have played hoops my whole life and have never been satisfied with my shot. Thus, I do try to keep learning good form and practicing what I learn. With Gelo, it seems like his form isn't terrible, but what I think I see is that sometimes the ball seems to get stuck on his hand. On that floating jumper from the free throw line that he airballed last night, or those first missed free throws where he always seems to front-rim it, it feels like the ball is not rotating off his finger tips the same way as when he makes it. When shooting, the ball is not supposed to get back into your palm, but rather rest on your fingers, which allows for good rotation when you flick your wrist. It really looked like he didn't get that good flick and rotation off his fingers on that airball.

I harp on this only because I generally agree with you. I think Gelo could be a real stud if he could just fix his jumper. He has a lot of the other elements to be a dangerous player on both ends. If he could knock down that midrange and an occasional three, he becomes a top level starter next year.
 

Zootcat

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I’m far from a basketball savant, but one of the things that struck me last night was how crisp our passing was, for the most part. The energy just seemed higher, and (I hope) it looks like the team is growing right in front of our eyes.

While, like everyone, I would have loved a few more wins, my attitude going into this season was that this year our (very young) team would be playing much better by the end of the year than it would at the beginning. It’s reassuring to see that happening.

I’m not sure how we’ll replace Martinelli’s scoring next year, but if we can spread most of it among this young core, and if we can keep this core of players, I think we have reason to be optimistic.
 

CappyNU

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Defensively last night, we gave up 36 points in the first 20 possessions, for an abysmal 1.80 PPP over the first 14:30. The remainder of the game, we gave up just 32 points in 41 possessions, for an excellent 0.78 PPP over the final 25:30. One of Kropp and Clayton were on the court for 13 minutes of that initial 14:30, but neither played at all during the remainder of the game.
 

SDakaGordie

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Defensively last night, we gave up 36 points in the first 20 possessions, for an abysmal 1.80 PPP over the first 14:30. The remainder of the game, we gave up just 32 points in 41 possessions, for an excellent 0.78 PPP over the final 25:30. One of Kropp and Clayton were on the court for 13 minutes of that initial 14:30, but neither played at all during the remainder of the game.
Do you happen to have Reid’s +/-?
 

hdhntr1

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I’m far from a basketball savant, but one of the things that struck me last night was how crisp our passing was, for the most part. The energy just seemed higher, and (I hope) it looks like the team is growing right in front of our eyes.

While, like everyone, I would have loved a few more wins, my attitude going into this season was that this year our (very young) team would be playing much better by the end of the year than it would at the beginning. It’s reassuring to see that happening.

I’m not sure how we’ll replace Martinelli’s scoring next year, but if we can spread most of it among this young core, and if we can keep this core of players, I think we have reason to be optimistic.
One of the things to remember about last night is that Indiana does not really have a center. (well they have one but he is a Frosh from Europe and I don't think he played,) Tallest guy on their team that played is listed at 6'9".
 
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I am not going to pretend I was ever anywhere near a college level player, but I have played hoops my whole life and have never been satisfied with my shot. Thus, I do try to keep learning good form and practicing what I learn. With Gelo, it seems like his form isn't terrible, but what I think I see is that sometimes the ball seems to get stuck on his hand. On that floating jumper from the free throw line that he airballed last night, or those first missed free throws where he always seems to front-rim it, it feels like the ball is not rotating off his finger tips the same way as when he makes it. When shooting, the ball is not supposed to get back into your palm, but rather rest on your fingers, which allows for good rotation when you flick your wrist. It really looked like he didn't get that good flick and rotation off his fingers on that airball.

I harp on this only because I generally agree with you. I think Gelo could be a real stud if he could just fix his jumper. He has a lot of the other elements to be a dangerous player on both ends. If he could knock down that midrange and an occasional three, he becomes a top level starter next year.
Gelo looks good shooting in warmups. Hits most of his shots and his form looks fine. Don’t disagree on the ball not coming off his finger tips but I think the biggest issue is confidence. Hard to airball from 15 feet even if the ball comes off your palm. And the free throw shooting has to be mental. If he can refine his shot and gain some confidence over the summer, he could be a plus starter as an upperclassman. Forcing defenders to close out on him would open up driving lanes for him.
 

macarthur31

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Last night’s win was a lot of fun. The season hasn’t been what we or the team hoped for after last year, but they’ve clearly been more competitive late. That showed again. They struggled to guard the three in the first half and fell behind a good shooting bubble team in IU. Second half was different. The effort level, the physicality, the discipline defensively, it all tightened up. Northwestern controlled the game. They won the hustle plays, they dictated tempo, and they were the better team over the final 20. They deserved that win.

Martinelli is a beast offensively. Flat out. He’s a three level scorer now. The three ball has become a real weapon which opens up everything else. He can get downhill and play through contact. His mid range and post work are as polished as anyone in the Big Ten. What’s impressed me most is the growth in his recognition versus doubles. He’s not just trying to score over them anymore, he’s reading them and making the right pass. Defensively he’s taken a massive jump. I’d call him slightly above average on that end, which is leaps and bounds from where he started. The season might not end the way he deserves, but individually he’s having one of the best years in the league. I hope the accolades follow because they should.

West is starting to emerge. Those clutch free throws matter. His vision is improving every game. He’s seeing help earlier and making reads instead of just playing fast. He’ll still overdrive at times or try to force a pass because he has the ability to difficult plays off the bounce. The adjustment is understanding that in this league everyone can make a play too. You have to pick your spots. The weight room is going to help him a lot with finishing through contact and holding up defensively at the point of attack. Early in the year he wasn’t creating, scoring, or defending at this level. Now he is. That’s real development.

Singelton is going to be a very very good player for the Cats. Elite frame. Great size. Strong fundamentals. He’s smooth and comfortable with contact which you don’t always see from a freshman. He’ll go into his bag against developed Big Ten players and doesn’t look rushed. The next step is consistently knocking down the three to open the rest of his game. Defensively he might be their most versatile piece. He switches across positions, moves his feet well, and understands angles. That’s impressive for a freshman. He just has to clean up the hand usage and avoid unnecessary fouls. He’s solid on the glass and can handle it in space too. With Tre and West you have a fun young core.

Gelo is the most improved player in my opinion. His defense is night and day. The positioning is better which lets the athleticism actually show up. The weight room has helped him a lot with both finishing through contact and absorbing it defensively. If he finds consistency from deep he can be a very good role player in this league. Even if he doesn’t, he profiles as a high energy slashing defensive piece off the bench. That has real value.

Reid has been up and down. He creates well and he’s excellent in transition. Defensively he can struggle when he gets pinned inside without help, but he’s disruptive. He gets steals. He can guard the ball and recover in full court pressure. The swing skill is finishing at the rim. He’s streaky from three and with the pull up. If he makes defenders respect the drive and converts those layups, everything else opens up. A couple makes at the rim gets him going. He’s so good at penetrating and creating separation. If he starts finishing, he looks like a different player. Worst case that’s an energetic streaky sixth man. Best case you’re talking about two legitimate lead guards next year.

Page has also had an up and down year. In his first real minutes role he’s flashed both elite offense and rough stretches. Games like last night and against scUM show the ceiling. He can score from anywhere. Three ball, midrange, post fade, footwork on the block, straight line drives. He’s an elite passer for a five. He’s making reads and passes that some lead guards can’t make, and he was the biggest guy on the floor doing it. With his size and athleticism they’re better on the glass when he’s out there. Defensively he’s been solid when asked to protect the paint. The growth area is in hedges and communication on switches. That’s positioning and reps. If he finds consistency defensively this offseason, he profiles very well as a modern five at the next level.

This team has a lot of potential. Potential can be frustrating because it’s not results. It’s ifs. It’s projection. But this is a young team that’s developing in a tough league. The flashes have been real. I do think Reid and Page can take jumps this offseason that change the ceiling of the group. Tre and West are real building blocks. Kropp can be a solid role player. Gelo is trending the right way. There’s a high upside redshirt freshman developing behind the scenes and another solid class coming in. And Chris Collins is still one of the better coaches in the country.

Northwestern is a unique job. Academic standards. Brutal conference. Limited NIL compared to league heavyweights. That makes it harder to reload and forces you to develop and rebuild. This rebuild is promising though, even if it’s frustrating in the moment. You take the wins. You take the flashes. And you trust the development with a historic coach like Collins.

Man it’s fun beating IU this many times in a row.
Last night was such a satisfying win. I can't imagine what it was like for the fellas who've been "pounding the rock" this season.



These guys are still pulling for each other.

For me, this is a good sign of team culture. No doubt alot of those guys want to play more minutes, Collins noted - that's how these guys are wired. However, they can either accept the challenge to get better or they can leave. This isn't meant to be a negative/arrogant thing - maybe they'll get a Luke Hunger/Blake Barkley situation where they have a more primary role. It's just not going to be against B1G competition, because if they could do it, they likely would've gotten a chance already.

I came across this IG reel that had an excerpt from "SEC Football: Any Given Saturday" where Hugh Freeze apologizes to the seniors, as they are about to endure a tough year. He then reads a text from one of his seniors who signs on to that assignment. Now whatever your feelings about Freeze/Auburn aside, it's a compelling moment that reminds me of what Nick took on this year.

Dude saw Brooks Barnhizer, Ty Berry, Jalen Leach and Matt Nicholson walk out that door - there was no way the frosh and transfers were going to replace them. Nick coulda went pretty much anywhere he wanted. But he stayed here. And I really believe he stayed here because he knew he had to set the tone and the standard to set up the next chapter of NU hoops (and also, he probably got a tidy NIL sum to boot).

Anyway, we can all continue to handicap who will be staying or going - in the era of the portal, it's message board fodder. How else we gonna get through a postseason-less March? However, I'm really not that worried about it. Those that stay are going to be the ones who will get us back there. And it's going to be built on toughness and defense.
 

Hungry Jack

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If bennerman snd/or Ghai make strides and play next year for us and Page stays with us as I hope he does, we’re going to have potential both protecting rim and rebounding.
Bennerman and Ghai will have 10 fouls to give. That will get us through the first half.
 
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hdhntr1

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Bennerman and Ghai will have 10 fouls to give. That will get us through the first half.
I see Bennerman playing next year but harder to se Ghai. Bennerman will have sat for a year and spent time in weight room. Pictures I have seen of Ghai indicate he is thin as a rail and he too should spend a year in development, Especially if Page is back
 

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I see Bennerman playing next year but harder to se Ghai. Bennerman will have sat for a year and spent time in weight room. Pictures I have seen of Ghai indicate he is thin as a rail and he too should spend a year in development, Especially if Page is back
A guy like Ghai it's pretty easy for me to see being able to fullfill a backup center type role for 10 MPG if his instincts are good based purely on height. Of course, he's a hyper raw product, so that's a big question. Other than Ghai we're still short of true 5s as Bannerman is a stretch 4, but I remain far more concerned about our guards and outside shooting.
 
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A guy like Ghai it's pretty easy for me to see being able to fullfill a backup center type role for 10 MPG if his instincts are good based purely on height. Of course, he's a hyper raw product, so that's a big question. Other than Ghai we're still short of true 5s as Bannerman is a stretch 4, but I remain far more concerned about our guards and outside shooting.
BIGs often take longer to develop than other positions, Just as thin as he is hard to see him being ready for that next year
 

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First year centers at NU are very typically foul machines. Remember Big Matt’s early days? He eventually became an elite paint protector. I think Ghai could be that guy.
 
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