Due to my career, I have had the opportunity to tour and see many major college football facilities, including being in the Oregon facility (the mark of excellence in college athletic facilities) a number of times. Ours is 100% top of the line. Do not look at the $$ figure and say "well this school spent $10 million more and this school spent $25 million more". The expenses come with the materials and where you get them from. It's staggering how much money Oregon spent on Ferrari leather chairs and rugs handmade from this country, toilets purchased from this country, etc. This facility compares to any one out there. When a recruit walks in to this facility, there is zero doubt in my mind they will be blown away and know that Kentucky is serious about football (leave the "it took us long enough" for another thread). It's our time boys. We have EVERYTHING in place to compete. We need to ride the momentum of all of this and produce on the field. If we can get this damn thing rolling, there is no telling where we can go.
Let me say this about the practice facility
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Totally agree.
I've been around many, many facilities over the last 10-15 yrs and ours is up there. It is no longer an excuse.
I've been around many, many facilities over the last 10-15 yrs and ours is up there. It is no longer an excuse.
We have not even seen all of the rooms yet. A ton of thought and design went into this facility.
I am praying that Stoops turns this around, but I grow more optimistic that if he does not or leaves for another program that UK will now be able to attract much better candidates in the future because of this facility and the work done at the stadium.
I am praying that Stoops turns this around, but I grow more optimistic that if he does not or leaves for another program that UK will now be able to attract much better candidates in the future because of this facility and the work done at the stadium.
"We have EVERYTHING in place to compete."
Sorry, wrong again. Just one of millions of UK fans missing it though, apparently.
We are missing one piece, it is called MONEY for the athletes, which city colleges within a hundred miles (Knoxville less than 200 miles) seem to have no trouble coming up with, which Bama when faced with the same problem with their in state rival overcame all the legal and administrative (some big ones, and even some moral ones, although that is a big stretch?) problems in a day or two to even the playing field.
Weird when it could be such a HUGE factor in our commits considering city colleges and other teams in our own conference, where most of them have jumped all over this unfair recruiting tool, left wide open by the incompetent NCAA.
And this wouldn't even alter the status quo of FOOTBALL supporting all the other minor sports at UK (basketball does more than its part, no one else, and most of the SEC teams probably lose money on basketball) because football (and being in the SEC) provides almost all the money for our athletic departments budget------including mitch's elevated salary. It would cost about a million a year to even the playing field in this matter, and about 80% of the benefits would go to our other sports, as usual, so why isn't mitch all over this?
Oh, I know, he can't do anything, we are going to pay him almost a million a year when really there is nothing he can do, he is our leader but he couldn't do anything for football for TEN YEARS while other programs passed us by, and now he can't do anything about this either?
There is little doubt in my mind that the "two bit recruiting room" had about as negative effect on recruits (So, UK isn't just a bb school, you might want to take their offer over ours, here, let me show you a picture), as the long overdue palaces we are building now have a positive effect on recruiting now, and the cost of correcting that eyesore would have been pennies on the dollar compared to what our new facilities cost.
So for a measly million a year we could pay the student athletes what most of our competition is paying AND have a much better talent pool in ALL sports but no one wants to even mention it on here or anywhere else? Weird.
I contended that Stoops should have paid Marrow whatever it took out of his salary to keep him on our staff, (like Brooks did with Joker, by the way, and would Stoops even have the HUGE salary AND buyout if Marrow had left? I doubt it), it seems that ALL our sports staff could contribute a little of their MILLIONS in salaries to this and be way ahead in both salary and job security in the long run.
And yes, I know it isn't a simple thing to do, but if Bama's AD can get it done in a day why can't our great AD figure out some way to get it done, after all his ten years of ineptitude in football support is the reason we are still trying to dig ourselves out of this huge hole we still have in football talent.
Sorry, wrong again. Just one of millions of UK fans missing it though, apparently.
We are missing one piece, it is called MONEY for the athletes, which city colleges within a hundred miles (Knoxville less than 200 miles) seem to have no trouble coming up with, which Bama when faced with the same problem with their in state rival overcame all the legal and administrative (some big ones, and even some moral ones, although that is a big stretch?) problems in a day or two to even the playing field.
Weird when it could be such a HUGE factor in our commits considering city colleges and other teams in our own conference, where most of them have jumped all over this unfair recruiting tool, left wide open by the incompetent NCAA.
And this wouldn't even alter the status quo of FOOTBALL supporting all the other minor sports at UK (basketball does more than its part, no one else, and most of the SEC teams probably lose money on basketball) because football (and being in the SEC) provides almost all the money for our athletic departments budget------including mitch's elevated salary. It would cost about a million a year to even the playing field in this matter, and about 80% of the benefits would go to our other sports, as usual, so why isn't mitch all over this?
Oh, I know, he can't do anything, we are going to pay him almost a million a year when really there is nothing he can do, he is our leader but he couldn't do anything for football for TEN YEARS while other programs passed us by, and now he can't do anything about this either?
There is little doubt in my mind that the "two bit recruiting room" had about as negative effect on recruits (So, UK isn't just a bb school, you might want to take their offer over ours, here, let me show you a picture), as the long overdue palaces we are building now have a positive effect on recruiting now, and the cost of correcting that eyesore would have been pennies on the dollar compared to what our new facilities cost.
So for a measly million a year we could pay the student athletes what most of our competition is paying AND have a much better talent pool in ALL sports but no one wants to even mention it on here or anywhere else? Weird.
I contended that Stoops should have paid Marrow whatever it took out of his salary to keep him on our staff, (like Brooks did with Joker, by the way, and would Stoops even have the HUGE salary AND buyout if Marrow had left? I doubt it), it seems that ALL our sports staff could contribute a little of their MILLIONS in salaries to this and be way ahead in both salary and job security in the long run.
And yes, I know it isn't a simple thing to do, but if Bama's AD can get it done in a day why can't our great AD figure out some way to get it done, after all his ten years of ineptitude in football support is the reason we are still trying to dig ourselves out of this huge hole we still have in football talent.
I am about the farthest thing you will ever find from a negative nancy, that is a pretty stupid statement.
But facts are facts, I believe that the $5,000 "loan" from the con man that took in $930,000,000 of other peoples money (the "loan" that would have never been "repaid", most likely replaced with cash, if the balloon hadn't burst) that hurtt negotiated (guess he couldn't pay his electric bill, right?) was most likely used for FIFTY each $100 handshakes. Just a couple shady deals for jurich to raise that money every day.
This money DWARFS those $100 handshakes that hurtt used to pass out.
Now the UL and TU coaches can say to a prospect, here is thirty three $100 bills for this year, and now here is another TWENTY for every year you are going to be here MORE than that cheapskate UK is going to give you, (poor things are in the SEC) multiplied by how many years you are here. Not just those two, but also the two Bama schools, both the Misses, and even another city school in Cincinnati giving $2000 more a year than poor old UK-------that is spending money like a mad man on facilities AND coaches, AND that can give a hundred million or so to academics but can't spare a measly million to improve EVERY sport at UK. And that is just to mention a few of our competitors. Football would only get less than 20% of the money, but would easily pay for all of it with improved football recruits coming in.
Yeah, a lot of problems to solve, but if we had an AD like Bama it would have also been done in a day.
This is the height of stupidity IMO. It just isn't a win for UK football, it is a huge win for all UK sports AND academics, which gets millions from UK football every year, just the out of state tuition charges for MOST of the team a huge gift every year.
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A negative nancy is coming to an overly positive thread celebrating a huge milestone in our programs history and saying nothing about it, but writing about how we are still behind the 8 ball in another area.
Negative Nancy Thread >>>>>>>>
I had never heard that definition before, is it in Webster's?
Since no one else seems to want to talk about the HUGE elephant in the room I am taking it on myself to bring it up whenever I can.
Ignore it at your own peril, I hadn't ever noticed us about to lose that many commits to a city school-------UC might even get a few also.
Sad to say, but money talks and BS walks. Maybe money isn't a factor to a lot of our rich cats, but a lot of our players might even want to help out their single mother a little bit instead of still leaning on them.
And, at the end of the day, we had nothing to sell. Alabama had tradition as Ole Miss, LSU, UT and Arkansas. Coach Spurrier made Florida a title contender. Adolph Rupp made UK a tradition because not a single SEC school ever cared for the game. Over the various coaches made certain SEC schools relative. But, UK remained the gold standard.
Mark Stoops has all the time he needs (barring a total catastrophe) to build this football program in to an SEC competitor. He is building depth in 3-4 star players that produces classes that fill positions with quality SEC players. The defense is the most difficult to build in both Great players, but quality depth. We are now at a point where maturity and experience create a 6-6 season with the probability of a 7-5 possible and by the grace of God 8-4 if the ball bounces our way.
Had that last year and threw it away. Bopefully history repeats itself and we capitalize on those opportunities.
How much different Would the program look if we had beaten UF, Auburn, UL and Vandy in addition to our other W's
Silver lining is an understatement. I don't think I've ever seen a collegiate OC with such a lack of playcalling abilities, and such a thin playbook.
Looking forward to the K-Men tour and Team luncheon on 8/5..from the video it looks fantastic..UK Football hits the 21st Century..:cool2::cool2::cool2::cool2::cool2: