Looks like Mark Goforth is co-douching with Forrest Moore
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Funny that the ****** players are the ones coming out.Call me when Conner Powers or Sneed or someone that actually contributed something during that ****** season comes forward with any info.
And in Cohen's first year? With this band of Polk's pussies spreading estrogen around and bleeding all over the team, no wonder msu struggled.
Bout as much of a coincidence of Msu's foot currently being up UM's *** and a UM booster is trying to dig up violations. Where have we heard that song before?
between "mandatory" practice time and "voluntary" practice time. I suspect the "extra" time they're claiming Cohen forced them to practice was "voluntary." But these 2 douches think that 20-25 hours of Polk practice is enough to be competitive in the most elite conference in the nation. Never realizing that the elite teams like FL, Vandy, SCar, and LSU are working their butts off 40-45 hours a week with "voluntary" practice. Now we've got guys that work hard above and beyond the "mandatory" practice time. And we saw the results on the field this season.
If they're claiming the "off" day was negated by having to lift weights and/or run, I'd say they have misrepresentations as to what the NCAA actually considers practice.
I'd also question any student athlete's ability to have 40-45 hours per week of practice through an entire semester and carry at least a 12 hour load of academics. Even more amazing, they do it again in the spring, only replacing some practice time with 3-hour-long games.
I'd also question any student athlete's ability to have 40-45 hours per week of practice through an entire semester and carry at least a 12 hour load of academics. Even more amazing, they do it again in the spring, only replacing some practice time with 3-hour-long games.
The trick is to skirt the rules the right way and hope you don't end up with too many disgruntled former players.
The practice limits are made to be broken with voluntary practices that aren't really all that voluntary.
The practice limits are made to be broken with voluntary practices that aren't really all that voluntary.
It would be good if some players from during that time came to Cohen's defense. Like you said it could get ugly, but if some of those workouts were "voluntary" then we should be OK. Beside the point these two dudes are some big pussies that got their feelings hurt when Cohen came in here and made them actually work.
There is a Jenna Jamison sized gap between your perceived talent and actual talent.
Sack up and move on. It's over. Let it go.
Sack up and move on. It's over. Let it go.
surfacing.........Not what we need at this point now that it looks like our program may be turning in the right direction........
what we were dealing with during Cohen's first two years. The people that we had on the team were not winners. They were a bunch of self-absorbed pussies that didn't care enough about winning and wanted things to be given to them and wanted things to be easy. Unfortunately for them, the SEC is big boy baseball. They should have played at Mississippi College if they wanted to have a "good college baseball experience".
I know some people criticized me for saying that about them last year- but the proof is in the pudding. You have this, and you also have a team that is full of Cohen recruits that were not really blue chip players for the most part coming about 9 outs from Omaha. I also want to point out that none of the players that transferred off of those teams went on to do anything spectacular either. I have very little tolerance for people that have the opportunity to play for MSU- something a LOT of players would have loved to do- and they just piss it away with their pettiness. I also believe you play baseball hard because that was how it was meant to be played, and if you don't you are a disrespecting the game. That was why I was always and still am so hard on them.
Their problem is Cohen has all of the practice times documented- and this is the very reason why they do that. Even if he is lying about it, it's his word against theirs. Also, we have every assistant coach from that season currently on staff as of now. They will back Cohen up- I can guarantee that.
As far as the weight lifting stuff goes- Polk was from the old school where baseball people thought it was taboo to lift weights because "you might pull or strain something". That started to change with people like Nolan Ryan and Steve Carlton, and then of course Bo Jackson came along, and then you had the full fledged steroid era where all of a sudden pretty much everyone worked out, and it has trickled down to all levels of baseball. What we know now is that if you work out and stretch properly, it will improve your performance as a baseball player.
All of that is to say this: When Polk was our coach, we did lift weights some, but not like we should. Our whole conditioning program was fubared. And I think that is one big reason why we had so many pitching injuries. Of course, everyone else in the SEC was doing conditioning, weight training etc. So, when Cohen comes along and all of a sudden pretty much forces them to start lifting, I could see where it would be a culture shock to our then players.
I know some people criticized me for saying that about them last year- but the proof is in the pudding. You have this, and you also have a team that is full of Cohen recruits that were not really blue chip players for the most part coming about 9 outs from Omaha. I also want to point out that none of the players that transferred off of those teams went on to do anything spectacular either. I have very little tolerance for people that have the opportunity to play for MSU- something a LOT of players would have loved to do- and they just piss it away with their pettiness. I also believe you play baseball hard because that was how it was meant to be played, and if you don't you are a disrespecting the game. That was why I was always and still am so hard on them.
Their problem is Cohen has all of the practice times documented- and this is the very reason why they do that. Even if he is lying about it, it's his word against theirs. Also, we have every assistant coach from that season currently on staff as of now. They will back Cohen up- I can guarantee that.
As far as the weight lifting stuff goes- Polk was from the old school where baseball people thought it was taboo to lift weights because "you might pull or strain something". That started to change with people like Nolan Ryan and Steve Carlton, and then of course Bo Jackson came along, and then you had the full fledged steroid era where all of a sudden pretty much everyone worked out, and it has trickled down to all levels of baseball. What we know now is that if you work out and stretch properly, it will improve your performance as a baseball player.
All of that is to say this: When Polk was our coach, we did lift weights some, but not like we should. Our whole conditioning program was fubared. And I think that is one big reason why we had so many pitching injuries. Of course, everyone else in the SEC was doing conditioning, weight training etc. So, when Cohen comes along and all of a sudden pretty much forces them to start lifting, I could see where it would be a culture shock to our then players.
During Polk's final year, Goforth played in 46 games and had 101 at bats. In Cohen's first year, Goforth played in 20 games and had 29 at bats. Just sayin'...
prevented if Cohen just would have written them birthday and Christmas letters every year. Bless their hearts!11!!
Practiced every day about 5 or 7 hours a day. And I also guarantee that Cohen gets away with it because anything over 20 hours was "voluntary". In truth it isn't voluntary because if you don't show up you will be cut or never play, and then the coaches will tell you it is your choice.<div>
</div><div>As for Polk he did the same stuff. You have 30 minutes of "voluntary" pre practice every day on 5 or 6 days a week of pre practice which adds of to about 2.5 extra hours. Plus the "voluntary" Monday practices that last a few hours. </div><div>
</div><div>This "voluntary" stuff adds up quick, this doesn't even include the workouts and conditioning</div><div>
</div><div>I don't know why anyone would complain about it, because everyone knows it goes on and what they are getting into when they get there. </div><div>
Todd as for your claims that Polk's guys didn't work out, that just isn't true in any way... </div>
</div><div>As for Polk he did the same stuff. You have 30 minutes of "voluntary" pre practice every day on 5 or 6 days a week of pre practice which adds of to about 2.5 extra hours. Plus the "voluntary" Monday practices that last a few hours. </div><div>
</div><div>This "voluntary" stuff adds up quick, this doesn't even include the workouts and conditioning</div><div>
</div><div>I don't know why anyone would complain about it, because everyone knows it goes on and what they are getting into when they get there. </div><div>
Todd as for your claims that Polk's guys didn't work out, that just isn't true in any way... </div>