Loserville fans want 2013 title back

[akaukswoosh]

Louisville fans demand 2013 national title back after Michigan’s soft punishment

Louisville was forced to vacate its 2013 NCAA championship, but after Michigan got a slap on the wrist for its cheating scandal, Cardinals fans want it back.

bigredlouie.com

 

[Catlogic1552]

I wasn’t aware Michigan hired hookers to spy on their opponents.

 

[UK4Life#9]

Only a UL fan would want a title back after they hired prostitutes for underage kids.

 

[Pygmy Sasquatch]

Funny that they played Michigan in 2013, and I didn't know Gary Busey was a UL fan

 

[nssdigitalchumps]

I wasn’t aware Michigan hired hookers to spy on their opponents.

Don’t give Michigan ideas.

 

[UKBB4Ever]

I want a whole bunch of ****.

 

[CRZ4UK]

Poor Louisville. We received all but the death penalty for ALLEGEDLY SENDING 1000 dollars. It was never proven at all that the Emory employees saw the money. Just their word.
Dwayne Casey sued Emory in civil court and asked them to provide any evidence it actually happened. They could not and went bankrupt with his civil suit. 2 years of no TV, postseason and they burned our program to the ground on 2 guys word.
Louisville lost that title because while the penalty phase was still going on they were caught in another scandal buying players with the FBI as proof. cheating, while still waiting for your penalty for providing hookers to underage kids.
Delusional fanbase
Michigan should have lost their title as well.
There needs to be hard penalties for cheating.

 

[4Frusciante#]

This opinion is probably not going to be popular but I feel the same way about this as I do about disqualifications in horse racing. If somebody breaks the rules take some money out of their pocket for it; don't tell us it didn't finish the way it finished.

 

[Cat2016win]

This opinion is probably not going to be popular but I feel the same way about this as I do about disqualifications in horse racing. If somebody breaks the rules take some money out of their pocket for it; don't tell us it didn't finish the way it finished.

That’s dumb. How about take money out of their pockets, announce second place is the winner and block them from playing for however many years? If you don’t handle it appropriately, then why would they stop cheating? Like when corporations do something illegal or awful and only pay 10 million but made 10 billion profit. That’s how you end up with the pain pill problem we had.

 

[CATALCOHOLIC]

That’s dumb. How about take money out of their pockets, announce second place is the winner and block them from playing for however many years? If you don’t handle it appropriately, then why would they stop cheating? Like when corporations do something illegal or awful and only pay 10 million but made 10 billion profit. That’s how you end up with the pain pill problem we had.

Baffert got like a 5 year ban at Churchill for cheating. A buddy of mine said Baffert was giving his horses thyroid meds and killing a bunch of them. He is in horse med business and he hates Baffert. UL cheated so why not strip their title. Rozelle just played down to the NCAA and gave up. Glad he got gone!!

 

[4Frusciante#]

That’s dumb. How about take money out of their pockets, announce second place is the winner and block them from playing for however many years? If you don’t handle it appropriately, then why would they stop cheating? Like when corporations do something illegal or awful and only pay 10 million but made 10 billion profit. That’s how you end up with the pain pill problem we had.

Maybe I'd feel differently if the removing of wins was done in a fair and consistent manner...but that has NEVER been the case. It's always just been a matter of who the NCAA wants to screw and UK has never been one of the favorite sons.

 

[4Frusciante#]

Baffert got like a 5 year ban at Churchill for cheating. A buddy of mine said Baffert was giving his horses thyroid meds and killing a bunch of them. He is in horse med business and he hates Baffert. UL cheated so why not strip their title. Rozelle just played down to the NCAA and gave up. Glad he got gone!!

I feel the same way about BB. They did the same thing to him as I suggest about cheating coaches. They at least stopped
Baffert from cheating for a while. Too bad the ban wasn't national...

 

[wildcats520312]

I was in high school in Louisville when Cal came to Kentucky. There were only a handful of UK fans in my class and I recall some Louisville fans joking that UK's 2012 banner would be hung with velcro since Cal had vacated wins at Memphis/UMass. Louisville having to take down their banner will never not be funny to be, even if I think it is probably BS.

 

[Scratched]

Screw the Cards but I never liked the idea of removing national championships. If they aren’t going to give it back to the dirty birds, they need to decide who the 2013 championship goes to. I still list them as champions when doing analysis like the one I did last Fall where I compared traits of every national champion since 1985, concluding that continuity had a greater impact on winning that strictly talent. It’s easy, NCAA, just list Louisville with an asterisk. The Men in Black flashy thing doesn’t work.

 

[TheGyeroMan]

Louisville is lucky to have a basketball team after what they pulled. The title ain't coming back. Never happened. And anyone that pretends like it still counts is breaking the law and needs to be arrested.

 

[DaVilleda14U]

UofL will have the banner hanging within the next 4 years.

 

[CRZ4UK]

Maybe I'd feel differently if the removing of wins was done in a fair and consistent manner...but that has NEVER been the case. It's always just been a matter of who the NCAA wants to screw and UK has never been one of the favorite sons.

Be careful, you will get labeled with a true post like that. People don’t want to believe there is any favoritism. Sports are clean and sacred.

 

[UK4Life#9]

UofL will have the banner hanging within the next 4 years.

It will be called the title that “prostitutes won for us.”

 

[UK’98UK’00]

This opinion is probably not going to be popular but I feel the same way about this as I do about disqualifications in horse racing. If somebody breaks the rules take some money out of their pocket for it; don't tell us it didn't finish the way it finished.

So cheating is fine is what you’re saying. Got it.

 

[4Frusciante#]

So cheating is fine is what you’re saying. Got it.

No, I was not saying that. Piss off. (I said that)

 

[Iced Mayo]

Maybe I'd feel differently if the removing of wins was done in a fair and consistent manner...but that has NEVER been the case. It's always just been a matter of who the NCAA wants to screw and UK has never been one of the favorite sons.

Do I think schools like UNC and now Michigan should have received a stiffer punishment? Absolutely. However, two wrongs don’t make a right. UofL was providing prostitutes to players, recruits (some minors), and their guardians on visits. I would still say that is more egregious than stealing signs.

Also, before that Pitino hooked Sypher’s husband up with a job using tax-payers money. Screw UofL. When you had Ramsey, Jurich, Pitino, and Petrino there, it was the shadiest school in D-I.

 

[bigblueinsanity (the real)]

I disagree with them but absolutely think they have every right to make this argument. Harbaugh was about to be fired (instead he agreed to a pay cut) before he hired conor and then....boom they start winning.

You cant just fine someone under those circumstances. That had to be vacated.

 

[katwest]

No they should not get it back, if they were to it would mean they didn’t learn anything. You can bet if it were UK, there would not be a single basketball fan anywhere that would say they should give it back. Kentucky almost got the death penalty for less than what Louisville did and the NCAA really didn’t prove anything. Rozelle just bent over and took it.

 

[Shydog]

No they should not get it back, if they were to it would mean they didn’t learn anything. You can bet if it were UK, there would not be a single basketball fan anywhere that would say they should give it back. Kentucky almost got the death penalty for less than what Louisville did and the NCAA really didn’t prove anything. Rozelle just bent over and took it.

partly agree but,, Rozelle might have bent over and took it because he didn't want everything we did uncovered.

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

 

[Vek96]

Honestly, if you claim to be a Louisville fan, you should kill yourself.

 

[BleedBlue63]

Be careful, you will get labeled with a true post like that. People don’t want to believe there is any favoritism. Sports are clean and sacred.

Especially with NIL now.

 

[jr40831]

 

[jr40831]

 

[Blu-ish]

Louisville to engage with NCAA about restoring 2013 men's basketball national championship

Louisville feels the time is now to approach the NCAA about 2013 in light of the Michigan sign stealing outcome and seismic changes in college sports.

www.courier-journal.com

 

[legalbeagle123]

Those idiots completely gloss over the fact that they were literally engaged in prostitution on campus, and in some cases, with underaged recruits. There can be no comparative analysis with other cases because what UL did is unprecedented.

 

[kybassfan]

They cheated their way into a title including whoring to influence recruits. False pretense to give the illusion of reclaiming that nonexistent title is just s small step for them. Proves they haven't learned a damn thing. The penalty given to them was obviously not severe enough. Same thing is happening at The Filth in NC.

 

[BlueSince92]

How much advantage did they really get on the basketball court from offering recruits unattractive prostitutes?

I’m not saying it wasn’t a nasty and immoral thing to do, or that they weren’t dirty for doing it, or that they shouldn’t be punished. And I honestly don’t know whether Rick was involved with it but if he was that’s definitely a horrible stain on his past (there but for the grace of God go I).

But what I am saying is, blowing up over petty stuff looks weak. If you beat me at basketball and I say it doesn’t count because your hair color distracted me, I look very weak.

Cut-rate ho patronage is not petty morally.

But it’s pretty freaking petty basketballwise if you ask me.

Were there really key contributors on that ‘13 title team who only signed with UL because UL hazed them with ugly hookers? Really?

Those kids were basketball stars at their local high schools. But the girl action from being a high school basketball star paled in comparison to those not particularly BMI-healthy Louisville prostitutes, so much so that the kids felt they just had to go there for school?

Anything’s possible.

But I’m kind of a tough sell in that department.

To me it always looked kind of sissy to take that title away. To me the manly thing would have been have been to say you won but we’re shutting your damn program down for contributing to the delinquency of minors.

 

[JohnDromo11]

Louisville is lucky to have a basketball team after what they pulled. The title ain't coming back. Never happened. And anyone that pretends like it still counts is breaking the law and needs to be arrested.

I wouldn’t be so sure of that.

 

[JohnDromo11]

Those idiots completely gloss over the fact that they were literally engaged in prostitution on campus, and in some cases, with underaged recruits. There can be no comparative analysis with other cases because what UL did is unprecedented.

Geez, like hookers don’t go to parties on campuses. You‘d think they took fake classes (oops…UNC did).

The entire ruling was arbitrary and ripe to be challenged in court. The latest Michigan ruling has now given UofL legal precedent.

 

[legalbeagle123]

Geez, like hookers don’t go to parties on campuses. You‘d think they took fake classes (oops…UNC did).

The entire ruling was arbitrary and ripe to be challenged in court. The latest Michigan ruling has now given UofL legal precedent.

Arbitrary?
Also, what court has jurisdiction or legal authority to order the NCAA to restore the championship?

 

[Catlogic1552]

So, the NCAA will need to agree that hiring hookers to recruit is OK?
We’ll see.

 

[JohnDromo11]

Arbitrary?
Also, what court has jurisdiction or legal authority to order the NCAA to restore the championship?

Michigan just got off pretty much Scott free for blatantly cheating. NCAA’s reasoning? The players shouldn’t be penalized for actions made by coaches no longer at the school. Precedent now?

Luke Hancock was MVP of a game that didn’t exist. Does that make sense?

Sue for civil and see if the NCAA has the stomach. My guess is that they don’t/won’t.

 

[legalbeagle123]

Michigan just got off pretty much Scott free for blatantly cheating. NCAA’s reasoning? The players shouldn’t be penalized for actions made by coaches no longer at the school. Precedent now?

Luke Hancock was MVP of a game that didn’t exist. Does that make sense?

Sue for civil and see if the NCAA has the stomach. My guess is that they don’t/won’t.

Nothing about the Michigan case and UL case is similar. You, like the fools who previously tried to argue the same thing, want to completely gloss over the immorality of providing prostitutes to underage recruits. To equate that with improper cash benefits or sign stealing is to ignore the reality of the situation.

Also appears you concede there is no legal basis for a court to order the title to be reinstated.

 

[JohnDromo11]

Nothing about the Michigan case and UL case is similar. You, like the fools who previously tried to argue the same thing, want to completely gloss over the immorality of providing prostitutes to underage recruits. To equate that with improper cash benefits or sign stealing is to ignore the reality of the situation.

Also appears you concede there is no legal basis for a court to order the title to be reinstated.

Stop.

You detest UofL. I get it.

Michigan’s cheating gained them far more of a competitive advantage than UofL with hookers that didn’t affect recruiting whatsoever.

UNC got away with fake classes for crying out loud. Which was the more egregious ”impermissible benefit?”

My point is that UofL has a very solid legal case at the civil level.