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LowCountryCat

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Jurich will be fired this week. What an abomination of a football program. So glad our AD is a moral upstanding guy. Same guy who hired Calipari BTW.
 

UKWildcats#8

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Lincoln said something about Grant during the Civil War to a guy who said "he drinks too much, remove him" and Lincoln said (paraphrasing) "I cannot spare this man, he fights"

Same thing with Petrino despite his issues, "he wins"
 
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maverick1rw

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Ya but at least we got more swag, juice boyz got some good vibes and gunna light up UL defense real good [laughing]
 

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Lincoln said something about Grant during the Civil War to a guy who said "he drinks too much, remove him" and Lincoln said (paraphrasing) "I cannot spare this man, he fights"

Same thing with Petrino despite his issues, "he wins"
There is a slight difference between winning a war to preserve the union than winning football games.

No one ever claimed Petrino wasn't a great coach, he is. He wins game, but at what cost? Do you think Arkansas' AD was glad he hired him? Petrino put that school in potential legal trouble with him having a relationship with a woman he hired onto the staff. He wins games, but it's clear to see why Mitch and plenty of other ADs stayed away.
 

Woodrow24

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There is a slight difference between winning a war to preserve the union than winning football games.

No one ever claimed Petrino wasn't a great coach, he is. He wins game, but at what cost? Do you think Arkansas' AD was glad he hired him? Petrino put that school in potential legal trouble with him having a relationship with a woman he hired onto the staff. He wins games, but it's clear to see why Mitch and plenty of other ADs stayed away.
Oh yeah that's so clear right now. Louisville is sure hurting so bad right now from hiring him. Mitch had no reason to give him a second chance and forgive someone for making a mistake.
 

maverick1rw

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There is a slight difference between winning a war to preserve the union than winning football games.

No one ever claimed Petrino wasn't a great coach, he is. He wins game, but at what cost? Do you think Arkansas' AD was glad he hired him? Petrino put that school in potential legal trouble with him having a relationship with a woman he hired onto the staff. He wins games, but it's clear to see why Mitch and plenty of other ADs stayed away.

RISK vs Reward. A contract could have been worded in such a way with claw backs and holding him accountable, etc...UL did not stay away and it looks like they hit a homerun, maybe grand slam because if they stay at this pace and can beat Houston later in the year they could be playing for the national championship.
 
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Chadrock

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There is a slight difference between winning a war to preserve the union than winning football games.

No one ever claimed Petrino wasn't a great coach, he is. He wins game, but at what cost? Do you think Arkansas' AD was glad he hired him? Petrino put that school in potential legal trouble with him having a relationship with a woman he hired onto the staff. He wins games, but it's clear to see why Mitch and plenty of other ADs stayed away.

Don't think college football or UL fans care too much about the potential legal trouble that Arkansas and BP already absorbed...past is the past and the present and future look pretty darn good for UL.

At what cost? Ask that of UK...
 

meteordealer

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RISK vs Reward. A contract could have been worded in such a way with claw backs and holding him accountable, etc...UL did not stay away and it looks like they hit a homerun, maybe grand slam because if they stay at this pace and can beat Houston later in the year they could be playing for the national championship.
And he's doing it with recruiting classes that are no better than ours.
 

TotesMcGotes

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There is a slight difference between winning a war to preserve the union than winning football games.

No one ever claimed Petrino wasn't a great coach, he is. He wins game, but at what cost? Do you think Arkansas' AD was glad he hired him? Petrino put that school in potential legal trouble with him having a relationship with a woman he hired onto the staff. He wins games, but it's clear to see why Mitch and plenty of other ADs stayed away.
I think Arkansas wanted to keep petrino but just couldn't because of public scrutiny.
 
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tntuk

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Jurich will be fired this week. What an abomination of a football program. So glad our AD is a moral upstanding guy. Same guy who hired Calipari BTW.
So Mitch now gets credit for hiring Cal?

I'm not sticking up for him by any means with this post - but just pointing out that for some time now people on here who hate Mitch claim he did not hire Cal.

That said - I was in the Petrino camp back when we had the chance to hire him. UK & MB whiffed no doubt. They look like the #1 team in the country right now and it's not even close.

Also, you take a swipe at Cal. Cal is not only a great coach, but an upstanding citizen. Think of all the millions of dollars he's raised for various causes (Haiti telethon, the softball game for Louisiana flood victim, etc.). Cal uses his celebrity status to do good things for people in need. How anyone can claim he's shady is beyond me.
 
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dgtatu01

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If you still think we shouldn't have hired Petrino, then you're blind, stupid, or both. Sorry if that insults you, buy it's true. Football is a dirty game won in the margins. He exploits those margins better than anyone. Perfect coach for a mid level recruiting program which we are. Easy to protect yourself in the contract when a coach is desperate to get back in the game. Heck he paid $300,000 out of his own pocket to coach one year at WKU.
 

LowCountryCat

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There is a slight difference between winning a war to preserve the union than winning football games.

No one ever claimed Petrino wasn't a great coach, he is. He wins game, but at what cost? Do you think Arkansas' AD was glad he hired him? Petrino put that school in potential legal trouble with him having a relationship with a woman he hired onto the staff. He wins games, but it's clear to see why Mitch and plenty of other ADs stayed away.
No, it's really NOT clear anymore. UofL is up 49-10 over NUMBER TWO FLORIDA STATE and NOBODY is talking about Petrino's past indiscretions.
 
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LowCountryCat

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So Mitch now gets credit for hiring Cal?

I'm not sticking up for him by any means with this post - but just pointing out that for some time now people on here who hate Mitch claim he did not hire Cal.

That said - I was in the Petrino camp back when we had the chance to hire him. UK & MB whiffed no doubt. They look like the #1 team in the country right now and it's not even close.

Also, you take a swipe at Cal. Cal is not only a great coach, but an upstanding citizen. Think of all the millions of dollars he's raised for various causes (Haiti telethon, the softball game for Louisiana flood victim, etc.). Cal uses his celebrity status to do good things for people in need. How anyone can claim he's shady is beyond me.
I didn't take a swipe at Cal. Cal had a perception of being shady and Mitch DIDN'T WANT TO HIRE HIM. But he did, and then refused to hire Petrino for past indiscretions?

Hypocrite.
 
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RISK vs Reward. A contract could have been worded in such a way with claw backs and holding him accountable, etc...UL did not stay away and it looks like they hit a homerun, maybe grand slam because if they stay at this pace and can beat Houston later in the year they could be playing for the national championship.
They have to beat Clemson on the road too.
 
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I am literally getting depressed watching this team who hired a guy who we could have easily had do well... I mean, when coaching search came I wanted Petrino, but when we got Stoops I wasn't in the last bit upset... Now, I am having buyers regret unfortunately.
 
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*Bleedingblue*

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How does such a POS undeserving school get this?


They do exactly what it takes to win. We do not because we look down our noses at anybody who is not doing it the proper way which we define as proper as not hitting to hard, not playing too aggressive, not running up the score, etc etc

UK plays like sissies just like their AD.
 

UK90

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He did get a freaking awesome QB

But nobody knew that when he showed up in Louisville. Same with Teddy Bridgewater. I believe they were lower rated in high school than these mega-hyped high school QBs who turn into crappy college QBs (see Patrick Towles, Morgan Newton, Barker, etc.) that we've been putting on the field in recent years.

That's what baffles me. If you look at recruit rankings, UL does not appear to be any more talented than us. But somehow their recruits develop into studs after getting to UL, whereas ours turn into duds after getting to UK.

Maybe our program is just cursed by the gods. Something in the Lexington water that turns even highly rated football talent into crappy players after prolonged exposure to UK football.
 
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tntuk

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I didn't take a swipe at Cal. Cal had a perception of being shady and Mitch DIDN'T WANT TO HIRE HIM. But he did, and then refused to hire Petrino for past indiscretions?

Hypocrite.
Hypocrite? You're the one now giving Mitch credit for hiring Cal.
 

tntuk

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Mitch was told to hire Cal or he wouldn't have a job any longer.
So he didn't hire him? Which is it? You and Prime MF need to get your heads together and keep me posted as to who was responsible for hiring Cal.

Prime's point - I think - was that Mitch did hire Cal, who had a shady reputation...but Mitch refused to hire Petrino, who had a shady reputation. Therefore, Mitch is a "hypocrite".
 

51stFan

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He did get a freaking awesome QB

That QB said on Game day that he came because Petrino develops QB. He could of been here if not for Mitch. He is at UofL for the coach and nothing else. I'm sure we get those types shortly with the development of Towels and Barker.
 

meteordealer

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So he didn't hire him? Which is it? You and Prime MF need to get your heads together and keep me posted as to who was responsible for hiring Cal.

Prime's point - I think - was that Mitch did hire Cal, who had a shady reputation...but Mitch refused to hire Petrino, who had a shady reputation. Therefore, Mitch is a "hypocrite".
Its not hard to figure out. He was forced by the boosters to hire Cal even though he didnt want to.
 

JBHolmesfan

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No, it's really NOT clear anymore. UofL is up 49-10 over NUMBER TWO FLORIDA STATE and NOBODY is talking about Petrino's past indiscretions.
Yea UL is a great team and Petrino is an awfully good coach. However, if you can't see why an AD would stay away from Petrino after what he did at Arkansas you don't really understand what goes on for an AD. To fans it can be solely about wins and losses. ADs don't have that luxury. Mitch and plenty other ADs weren't willing to risk the trouble with what may happen with Petrino. If you can't see that, you clearly don't understand the argument.
 

tntuk

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Its not hard to figure out. He was forced by the boosters to hire Cal even though he didnt want to.
So he wasn't responsible for hiring him....which means that he's not a hypocrite based on Prime MF's theory. You two are actually at odds here.