LSU fan delusion in full force

[Belldozer1]

LOL LSU fans thinking that since they have finally discovered the forward pass 50 years after everyone else that the entire nation is now going to steal their offense. Good grief. Next thing I know they'll be claiming Ogre invented the spread and Riley stole it from them. New money is cute to watch.
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant...ople-are-going-to-steal-our-offense/87583783/

 

[kcstorm06_rivals]

We need to introduce some zinger plays and show the clowns the spread is more than SEC version. Brooks needs to break some big runs !!

 

[Belldozer1]

I have a feeling Riley will have a few mind benders drawn up that will make Ogre long for the days of the 3 yards and a cloud of dust offenses to defend.

 

[psybj]

LOL LSU fans thinking that since they have finally discovered the forward pass 50 years after everyone else that the entire nation is now going to steal their offense. Good grief. Next thing I know they'll be claiming Ogre invented the spread and Riley stole it from them. New money is cute to watch.
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant...ople-are-going-to-steal-our-offense/87583783/

You coppied the first post of a long line; most of the responses correctly pointed out that LSU is running a variant of what many teams have been running, that the success is due to an extremely talented QB, that the excellent talent around the QB helped immensely, and that LSU is not going to be as good next year w/o Burrow.

You found one idiot, every team has a few such posters.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Both teams are ranked basically the same offensively & defensively. Not in any particular order but I see the intangibles as...
Special Team play
Big game experience
Coaching
Through my Crimson glasses... I’d give the advantage to the Sooners on these three.

 

[owenfieldreams]

There's one stat that doesn't get much attention but that says a lot about how good the OU team is. We are 12-1 with a negative TO ratio. This is unheard of. It tells me we are so dominant that even when giving opponents opportunity after opportunity to beat us we still prevail. If we play clean in the ATL we win.

 

[psybj]

Both teams are ranked basically the same offensively & defensively. Not in any particular order but I see the intangibles as...
Special Team play
Big game experience
Coaching
Through my Crimson glasses... I’d give the advantage to the Sooners on these three.

One you left out was TURNOVERS. LSU by a mile on that one.

Also might consider LEADERSHIP. J Burrow is as strong a leader as I have ever seen on and off the field.

This LSU team has played FIVE Top Ten teams this year, hard to see how LSU don't have an advantage in Big Game Experience.

LSU's only blunders on ST was mid-season missing a few FGs when the K had a pulled muscle. Now that he is better he ain't missing including several from 50+. KO go into the EZ regularly. P is good. Dunno where any significant ST advantage comes from.

 

[psybj]

There's one stat that doesn't get much attention but that says a lot about how good the OU team is. We are 12-1 with a negative TO ratio. This is unheard of. It tells me we are so dominant that even when giving opponents opportunity after opportunity to beat us we still prevail. If we play clean in the ATL we win.

It also suggests OU don't play nearly as clean as LSU which is positive on TO.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

There's one stat that doesn't get much attention but that says a lot about how good the OU team is. We are 12-1 with a negative TO ratio. This is unheard of. It tells me we are so dominant that even when giving opponents opportunity after opportunity to beat us we still prevail. If we play clean in the ATL we win.

Amen. OU shooting themselves in the foot has been their glaring weakness.

I would also urge our posters not to link that shythole of a board called "tigerdroppings". The typical poster over there has an IQ of about 4, and the comment section at People Magazine probably provides more insight into college football (which isn't saying much). It's basically just a bunch of SEC hicks flaming at each other.

 

[OUSOONER67]

I never visit sec sec sec teams sites, I don't get along well with liquored up rednecks whose only bright spots in life are when their team wins and when they spend 20.00 on scratch off tickets and get 2.00 of it back.

 

[iasooner1]

After all the numbers factors and the overwhelming Tigers should be offering 21+ points

 

[Belldozer1]

One you left out was TURNOVERS. LSU by a mile on that one.

Also might consider LEADERSHIP. J Burrow is as strong a leader as I have ever seen on and off the field.

This LSU team has played FIVE Top Ten teams this year, hard to see how LSU don't have an advantage in Big Game Experience.

LSU's only blunders on ST was mid-season missing a few FGs when the K had a pulled muscle. Now that he is better he ain't missing including several from 50+. KO go into the EZ regularly. P is good. Dunno where any significant ST advantage comes from.

You mean at the time they played they were Top 5? Because they sure didn't end the year Top 5. Big difference.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

One you left out was TURNOVERS. LSU by a mile on that one.

Also might consider LEADERSHIP. J Burrow is as strong a leader as I have ever seen on and off the field.

This LSU team has played FIVE Top Ten teams this year, hard to see how LSU don't have an advantage in Big Game Experience.

LSU's only blunders on ST was mid-season missing a few FGs when the K had a pulled muscle. Now that he is better he ain't missing including several from 50+. KO go into the EZ regularly. P is good. Dunno where any significant ST advantage comes from.

I’ll give you turnovers but leadership not a chance. Hurts is the consummate leader.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

After all the numbers factors and the overwhelming Tigers should be offering 21+ points

Agreed. We’re happy to be invited and hope to make a respectable showing.

 

[Zgeo]

It also suggests OU don't play nearly as clean as LSU which is positive on TO.

How did you all get the name “corndogs”?

 

[Belldozer1]

I can’t say I’m surprised by this. Ogre doesn’t strike anyone as an offensive genius by any stretch. I guess they needed to try to copy the master’s offense:
https://soonerswire.usatoday.com/20...u-took-a-hard-look-at-what-oklahoma-does/amp/

 

[psybj]

New You mean at the time they played they were Top 5? Because they sure didn't end the year Top 5. Big difference.

Please read before responding. Didn't say Top 5, said 5 teams in Top 10, and yes it was at the time of the game. The discussion was re playing pressure games, that is an indication of the game time pressure. Only 2 of those games were in BR, more pressure.

Now 4 teams LSU beat are in the Top 13, each with a loss to LSU, which is pretty strong. Other than their loss to LSU those 4 teams have a total of 5 losses, combined record of 40-5. The only Top Ten team LSU beat that fell apart later was UTx.

 

[psybj]

How did you all get the name “corndogs”?

Some message board posters, having nothing of substance to say, started that.

Interesting because nothing is farther from the truth. At LSU games this year we ate Gumbo, Etoufee, Boudin, Steak, Courtboullion, Crawfish Bisque, Chargrilled Oysters, Smoked Chicken, Grilled Sausage, Stuffed Grape Leaves, Kibbi, Spaghetti & Meatballs & Italian Sausage, Pulled Pork, Alligator, Fish, Shish Kabob, several Indian dishes I cannot name, Ice cream, Cookies, Brownies, Nachos, Hot Dogs, Hamburgers, different Chilis, Sandwiches, Jambalaya, Pastalaya and many many other things I cannot recall. Nobody eats better.

These things are also shared with anybody that comes by, especially those who wear the colors of the opposing team.

Maybe it was jealousy?

Oh, I am also a UGA grad. When UGA plays at LSU I dress in Red and Black, mostly to irritate my friends. I am amazed at the positive reception I have always received.

 

[psybj]

I can’t say I’m surprised by this. Ogre doesn’t strike anyone as an offensive genius by any stretch. I guess they needed to try to copy the master’s offense:
https://soonerswire.usatoday.com/20...u-took-a-hard-look-at-what-oklahoma-does/amp/

Any staff is dumb if it doesn't study all successful schemes. Certainly LR qualifies.

O isn't an offensive genius & doesn't pretend to be. He has always coached on the D side.

O organizes, delegates, recruits and motivates. Recruiting includes recruiting coaches, he has assembled some excellent ones.

O is also quick to correct mistakes, hired an OC in '17, saw he wasn't getting the job done, took away his play-calling responsibilities mid-season, paid him off and let him go at end of season.

He has also brought in help, on his in-house consulting staff is HOF Coach John Robinson.

Yup, LSU copies a lot of people.

 

[psybj]

I would also urge our posters not to link that shythole of a board called "tigerdroppings". The typical poster over there has an IQ of about 4, and the comment section at People Magazine probably provides more insight into college football (which isn't saying much). It's basically just a bunch of SEC hicks flaming at each other.

Those are the most complimentary things we have ever seen re that site. It's not really that good.

 

[Belldozer1]

Please read before responding. Didn't say Top 5, said 5 teams in Top 10, and yes it was at the time of the game. The discussion was re playing pressure games, that is an indication of the game time pressure. Only 2 of those games were in BR, more pressure.

Now 4 teams LSU beat are in the Top 13, each with a loss to LSU, which is pretty strong. Other than their loss to LSU those 4 teams have a total of 5 losses, combined record of 40-5. The only Top Ten team LSU beat that fell apart later was UTx.

Ha, no I read what you said just fine but I made a typo. Regardless, the point being that your comment was grossly exaggerated and that’s what I was pointing out. Your team has a few good wins but in no way, shape or form any kind of historical greatest of all time team by any stretch like a lot of your fanbase are claiming, and much like you did by claiming to have beaten 5 Top 10 teams .

 

[Belldozer1]

Any staff is dumb if it doesn't study all successful schemes. Certainly LR qualifies.

O isn't an offensive genius & doesn't pretend to be. He has always coached on the D side.

O organizes, delegates, recruits and motivates. Recruiting includes recruiting coaches, he has assembled some excellent ones.

O is also quick to correct mistakes, hired an OC in '17, saw he wasn't getting the job done, took away his play-calling responsibilities mid-season, paid him off and let him go at end of season.

He has also brought in help, on his in-house consulting staff is HOF Coach John Robinson.

Yup, LSU copies a lot of people.

[QUOTE="psybj, post: 2982691, member: 74174"]Any staff is dumb if it doesn't study all successful schemes. Certainly LR qualifies.

O isn't an offensive genius & doesn't pretend to be. He has always coached on the D side.

O organizes, delegates, recruits and motivates. Recruiting includes recruiting coaches, he has assembled some excellent ones.

O is also quick to correct mistakes, hired an OC in '17, saw he wasn't getting the job done, took away his play-calling responsibilities mid-season, paid him off and let him go at end of season.

He has also brought in help, on his in-house consulting staff is HOF Coach John Robinson.

Yup, LSU copies a lot of people.[/QUOTE]

Yeah but Orgeron has made a career out of it. Seems to have trouble getting out of his own way. Correct me if I’m wrong but Emsinger calls the plays? Your fans keep glorifying Brady as some sort of genius despite Brady on record stating that Emsinger is the one that should be getting full credit for the offense, I agree.

Brady’s resume is very suspect: GA for a year, LB coach for a year, offensive ‘assistant’ for a year or 2 in the pros and he’s the second coming? I think Ogre is overvaluing Brady and undervaluing your qb.

 

[psybj]

Yeah but Orgeron has made a career out of it. Seems to have trouble getting out of his own way. Correct me if I’m wrong but Emsinger calls the plays? Your fans keep glorifying Brady as some sort of genius despite Brady on record stating that Emsinger is the one that should be getting full credit for the offense, I agree.

Brady’s resume is very suspect: GA for a year, LB coach for a year, offensive ‘assistant’ for a year or 2 in the pros and he’s the second coming? I think Ogre is overvaluing Brady and undervaluing your qb.

Ensminger calls the plays, Brady sits next to him and often recommends. Suspect his recommendation is often taken, apparently it is often his call supervised by Ens.

Brady is teaching Ens the RPO similar to what Drew Brees runs at Saints. Ens is teaching 30 yo Brady how to be an OC.

Before the '18 season Oeaux brought in the Saints OC to present their O to LSU coaches. OC talked, then turned the presentation over to his asst, Brady, who proceeded to blow everybody away with his clear, concise presentation of the RPO. When the LSU O didn't develop well in '18 (but won 10 games & coudda won 12), Oeaux told Ens to open the O up more during the season. After the season Oeaux thought more was needed and remembered how much Brady knew and how well he had cmmc, thus he hired him.

Brady has been excellent in his cmmc, everybody loves him at LSU.

The LSU WRs have also been excellent, very few drops and lotta difficult catches. Brady required each to catch 10,000 balls over the summer. The #5 and #6 WRs are Sr, are invited to post-season All-Star games. The top 4 will play in the NFL.

Answer: Coaching, QB & WRs contributed, QB being the most important.

 

[Deweygolfer]

Please read before responding. Didn't say Top 5, said 5 teams in Top 10, and yes it was at the time of the game. The discussion was re playing pressure games, that is an indication of the game time pressure. Only 2 of those games were in BR, more pressure.

Now 4 teams LSU beat are in the Top 13, each with a loss to LSU, which is pretty strong. Other than their loss to LSU those 4 teams have a total of 5 losses, combined record of 40-5. The only Top Ten team LSU beat that fell apart later was UTx.

I mean really, who cares who LSU and OU have played to date, it means jacksh**! Last year, Bama had played a tougher schedule (by the numbers), then Clemson proceeded to whoop their *** in the Natty in an epic beatdown.

 

[psybj]

I mean really, who cares who LSU and OU have played to date, it means jacksh**! Last year, Bama had played a tougher schedule (by the numbers), then Clemson proceeded to whoop their *** in the Natty in an epic beatdown.

CONTEXT!
My post was in response to the comment that OU had more big game experience.

Neither LSU nor OU have the hosses Clem had last year, 3 DL were drafted early/mid 1st Round.

 

[Zgeo]

But there must be some reason LSU is known as the corndogs...it could have been mudbugs. or Cajuns...or crawdads...or tigers... but it is corndogs how did that get started?

 

[OUSOONER67]

But there must be some reason LSU is known as the corndogs...it could have been mudbugs. or Cajuns...or crawdads...or tigers... but it is corndogs how did that get started?

From what I have been told Auburn Fans stole it from Oklahoma. They say Oklahoma fans that traveled to Lincoln Nebraska back in the day said the Cornshucker Jackoffs fans smelled like Corndogs from all the fried food they cooked at the tailgate parties. They said lsu fans smelled that way when the auburn fans would travel to baton rouge, like corndogs from all the fried food cooked at the tailgate parties before the game.

Thats what I was told but who knows if true.

 

[iasooner1]

I haven't tried it yet but OUr Medic is renowned for his Hatch chilis and Etoufee...

 

[Belldozer1]

LSU fans seem really sensitive and melt at the suggestion that their defense looks a little soft right up the gut, brings out the little man Cajun venom in them.

 

[kcstorm06_rivals]

LSU fans seem really sensitive and melt at the suggestion that their defense looks a little soft right up the gut, brings out the little man Cajun venom in them.

Yes they seem pretty nervous about playing the offense that averages the same amount of yards that they do, and a more balanced run/pass attack. Their players popping off is insecurity clearly.

 

[Deweygolfer]

CONTEXT!
My post was in response to the comment that OU had more big game experience.

Neither LSU nor OU have the hosses Clem had last year, 3 DL were drafted early/mid 1st Round.

You're right Hurts has no big game experience nor do any of the other OU players that have played in multiple Playoffs previously or in multiple Big 12 Championship games or at tOSU, etc. etc. Big game experience spans more than just one season for these Sooners...…..

 

[Belldozer1]

Yes they seem pretty nervous about playing the offense that averages the same amount of yards that they do, and a more balanced run/pass attack. Their players popping off is insecurity clearly.

I noticed some on their message boards have been reassuring themselves by going back and re-watching their games against Bama and Georgia. Bama absolutely gave that game away on turnovers. One turnover was Tua tiptoeing into the endzone toatally untouched but before he scores he flat out just dropped the ball. Georgia’s offense is a joke. I have a feeling LSU fans are getting a little tight with their players mouthing off.

 

[lsuson]

[QUOTE="psybj, post: 2982691, member: 74174"]Any staff is dumb if it doesn't study all successful schemes. Certainly LR qualifies.

O isn't an offensive genius & doesn't pretend to be. He has always coached on the D side.

O organizes, delegates, recruits and motivates. Recruiting includes recruiting coaches, he has assembled some excellent ones.

O is also quick to correct mistakes, hired an OC in '17, saw he wasn't getting the job done, took away his play-calling responsibilities mid-season, paid him off and let him go at end of season.

He has also brought in help, on his in-house consulting staff is HOF Coach John Robinson.

Yup, LSU copies a lot of people.

Yeah but Orgeron has made a career out of it. Seems to have trouble getting out of his own way. Correct me if I’m wrong but Emsinger calls the plays? Your fans keep glorifying Brady as some sort of genius despite Brady on record stating that Emsinger is the one that should be getting full credit for the offense, I agree.

Brady’s resume is very suspect: GA for a year, LB coach for a year, offensive ‘assistant’ for a year or 2 in the pros and he’s the second coming? I think Ogre is overvaluing Brady and undervaluing your qb.[/QUOTE]

I have to correct you. Brady does call quite a few of the plays. It really depends on the situation in the game. Brady should be glorified on how he has transitioned the offense. Esminger has done a phenominal job with Burrow and his fundamentals. They worked their butts off this past offseason.

 

[lsuson]

But there must be some reason LSU is known as the corndogs...it could have been mudbugs. or Cajuns...or crawdads...or tigers... but it is corndogs how did that get started?

An auburn fan ran with something that was directed towards Nebraska. Most LSU fans totally ignore it due to the fact it makes no sense. Yet other fanbases continue to inquire about it. No big deal. It is what it is.

 

[lsuson]

I noticed some on their message boards have been reassuring themselves by going back and re-watching their games against Bama and Georgia. Bama absolutely gave that game away on turnovers. One turnover was Tua tiptoeing into the endzone toatally untouched but before he scores he flat out just dropped the ball. Georgia’s offense is a joke. I have a feeling LSU fans are getting a little tight with their players mouthing off.

Did Bama's defense give away over 500 yards of offense or did LSU impose their will????

Statistically Florida and Oklahoma are similar defensively. LSU only had 19 min of possession. I keep hearing that Oklahoma has to run and grind clock. Doesn't matter if LSU scores so quickly. They still scored 42 points on the gators.

 

[Deweygolfer]

Did Bama's defense give away over 500 yards of offense or did LSU impose their will????

Statistically Florida and Oklahoma are similar defensively. LSU only had 19 min of possession. I keep hearing that Oklahoma has to run and grind clock. Doesn't matter if LSU scores so quickly. They still scored 42 points on the gators.

Possibly, but OU sees the LSU type of offense weekly, Florida does not. IF OU doesn't turn the ball over, they have a chance.

 

[Belldozer1]

Yeah but Orgeron has made a career out of it. Seems to have trouble getting out of his own way. Correct me if I’m wrong but Emsinger calls the plays? Your fans keep glorifying Brady as some sort of genius despite Brady on record stating that Emsinger is the one that should be getting full credit for the offense, I agree.

Brady’s resume is very suspect: GA for a year, LB coach for a year, offensive ‘assistant’ for a year or 2 in the pros and he’s the second coming? I think Ogre is overvaluing Brady and undervaluing your qb.

I have to correct you. Brady does call quite a few of the plays. It really depends on the situation in the game. Brady should be glorified on how he has transitioned the offense. Esminger has done a phenominal job with Burrow and his fundamentals. They worked their butts off this past offseason.[/QUOTE]
Emsinger is calling the plays. Why let a guy with more experience coaching linebackers than offense call plays. How did Brady go from a 1 year LB coach to being an offensive assistant in the pros? Surely he knew someone. Ogre probably paying him more than Emsinger now and he’s not even the OC.

 

[Belldozer1]

Did Bama's defense give away over 500 yards of offense or did LSU impose their will????

Statistically Florida and Oklahoma are similar defensively. LSU only had 19 min of possession. I keep hearing that Oklahoma has to run and grind clock. Doesn't matter if LSU scores so quickly. They still scored 42 points on the gators.

You think momentum off those turnovers had anything to do with that? Pretty sure LSU had nothing to do with TUA literally dropping the ball as he’s going into the endzone. Wasn’t that Bama’s first possession too? The more I’m reading the more I think Ogre is scared to death of Riley’s offense so much so that he has tried to steal it. The back and forth from Ogre about your little running back, saying it’s a game time decision is hilarious. I’ll bet he doesn’t play. Seems Ogre let’s his players run their mouth but he’s running scared it seems.

The only concern I have for the game is our players getting penalties for excessive celebrations after each TD they score.

 

[Belldozer1]

Did Bama's defense give away over 500 yards of offense or did LSU impose their will????

Statistically Florida and Oklahoma are similar defensively. LSU only had 19 min of possession. I keep hearing that Oklahoma has to run and grind clock. Doesn't matter if LSU scores so quickly. They still scored 42 points on the gators.

Again, how is this possible? I thought you SEC honks said it’s not possible to put up those kind of numbers on SECSEC defenses? Is LSU just so much more powerful than any offense we’ve ever seen in our lifetime? You guys need to pick a side and stick with the narrative because you SECSEC fanboys arguments look ridiculous and are being exposed by your own offenses that you’ve stolen from the Big 12.[/QUOTE]

 

[lsuson]

You think momentum off those turnovers had anything to do with that? Pretty sure LSU had nothing to do with TUA literally dropping the ball as he’s going into the endzone. Wasn’t that Bama’s first possession too? The more I’m reading the more I think Ogre is scared to death of Riley’s offense so much so that he has tried to steal it. The back and forth from Ogre about your little running back, saying it’s a game time decision is hilarious. I’ll bet he doesn’t play. Seems Ogre let’s his players run their mouth but he’s running scared it seems.

The only concern I have for the game is our players getting penalties for excessive celebrations after each TD they score.

LSU has protected the ball well this year and created quite a few turnovers. Oklahoma hasn't. If both sides protect the ball then it should be a tight game. If Hurt's gives up turnovers it will be a long game for the sooners.