Luke Hunger has transferred to George Washington

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He will have 2 years of eligibility, because he was a medical redshirt as a freshman.
To his credit, Luke earned his diploma before departing Evanston.

When Hunger committed to Chris Collins and Northwestern in November of 2021, he was the only recruit in that class and was generally considered a good prospect, having chosen NU over Pitt, Mississippi and Boston College.

He came in as a perimeter-oriented big guy, despite his heavy frame and his lower body strength. He never really picked up the inside game that many expected from him at Northwestern, in part because he was limited vertically and wasn't particularly quick. He couldn't score over most Big Ten post defenders. He was generally not a good low post defender for the same reasons, but did have a knack for offensive rebounding. His perimeter shooting never became an asset. He always played hard and remained engaged in the game. However, Hunger's lack of development at NU was very disappointing.

Some thought Hunger was a natural power forward, or a player who slotted between the 4 and 5. That sort of physique can perform effectively at the 5 in the Atlantic 10, where the centers are not as big or athletic.

It will be unfortunate for NU fans if Collins is unable to replace Hunger via the transfer portal and ends up playing a true freshman (or two) for major minutes at the 5 - or if the backup center is a transfer who isn't as good as Hunger. It seems to me that Hunger would have stayed if he only had 1 year of eligibility and hadn't earned his degree, but expectations are high for incoming Cade Bennerman, so Hunger's minutes two years from now looked very limited at NU. The timing made sense to leave.
 
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The incoming bigs have a much higher ceiling than Hunger and should be a clear upgrade, though that’s not saying much. Hunger lacked the lateral quickness to defend in space or switch effectively, which made it tough to play him at the four. He didn’t have the size or strength to hold down the post at the 5. Offensively, he never developed enough to compensate for his defensive issues. At Northwestern, there were simply better options on the wing and at the four, Barnhizer and Martinelli could both hold down that spot comfortably. I’d rather see minutes from most of our guards/wings (guys that pushed Martinelli/Barnhizer to the 4) than Hunger the during his time here.

To his credit, Hunger had touch around the rim and some ability to attack slower fives off the bounce. But he didn’t have the strength to bully his way to looks or the footwork to establish a reliable post game. Defensively, he was a liability his entire tenure, and that’s ultimately what kept him off the floor. Offensively, he leaned too much on a three-point shot that never really came around. What he needed to do was finish plays when NU’s primary creators got him clean looks inside and play within himself.

Northwestern won’t feel the loss here. He gave it his all and got his degree, credit to him for that, but this is a clean break for both sides. Time to try someone new here. Hunger should be a solid pick up for GWU.
 

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He will have 2 years of eligibility, because he was a medical redshirt as a freshman.
To his credit, Luke earned his diploma before departing Evanston.

When Hunger committed to Chris Collins and Northwestern in November of 2021, he was the only recruit in that class and was generally considered a good prospect, having chosen NU over Pitt, Mississippi and Boston College.

He came in as a perimeter-oriented big guy, despite his heavy frame and his lower body strength. He never really picked up the inside game that many expected from him at Northwestern, in part because he was limited vertically and wasn't particularly quick. He couldn't score over most Big Ten post defenders. He was generally not a good low post defender for the same reasons, but did have a knack for offensive rebounding. His perimeter shooting never became an asset. He always played hard and remained engaged in the game. However, Hunger's lack of development at NU was very disappointing.

Some thought Hunger was a natural power forward, or a player who slotted between the 4 and 5. That sort of physique can perform effectively at the 5 in the Atlantic 10, where the centers are not as big or athletic.

It will be unfortunate for NU fans if Collins is unable to replace Hunger via the transfer portal and ends up playing a true freshman (or two) for major minutes at the 5 - or if the backup center is a transfer who isn't as good as Hunger. It seems to me that Hunger would have stayed if he only had 1 year of eligibility and hadn't earned his degree, but expectations are high for incoming Cade Bennerman, so Hunger's minutes two years from now looked very limited at NU. The timing made sense to leave.

I give you credit…you are terrific at taking any bit of news and somehow manipulating it to take a subtle dig at Collins. Do you work for The NY Times? Washington Post? CNN?
 
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I give you credit…you are terrific at taking any bit of news and somehow manipulating it to take a subtle dig at Collins. Do you work for The NY Times? Washington Post? CNN?
Incoming bigs > Hunger. While they are more high ceiling guys, better to get them minutes than Hunger given what we saw from him the last few years. Solely off potential I’d rather have any of the incoming bigs than Hunger. We’ll miss Matt next year, not Hunger. How fast these guys develop will determine how much we miss Matt.
 

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When Hunger committed to Chris Collins and Northwestern in November of 2021, he was the only recruit in that class
I'm not sure if you mean he was the only recruit at the time or that he ended up being the only recruit in the 2022 class. Either way, I don't think you are correct. At the time Rowan Brumbaugh was also a recruit, and Nick Martinelli also ended up in the 2022 class.
 

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I give you credit…you are terrific at taking any bit of news and somehow manipulating it to take a subtle dig at Collins. Do you work for The NY Times? Washington Post? CNN?

What fact do you think is a subtle dig at Collins?

When he recruits a guy and that guy never improves, its tough to find positive things to say.

But when you take facts and claim they are biased, you sound like a loser politician.
 

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He will have 2 years of eligibility, because he was a medical redshirt as a freshman.
To his credit, Luke earned his diploma before departing Evanston.

When Hunger committed to Chris Collins and Northwestern in November of 2021, he was the only recruit in that class and was generally considered a good prospect, having chosen NU over Pitt, Mississippi and Boston College.

He came in as a perimeter-oriented big guy, despite his heavy frame and his lower body strength. He never really picked up the inside game that many expected from him at Northwestern, in part because he was limited vertically and wasn't particularly quick. He couldn't score over most Big Ten post defenders. He was generally not a good low post defender for the same reasons, but did have a knack for offensive rebounding. His perimeter shooting never became an asset. He always played hard and remained engaged in the game. However, Hunger's lack of development at NU was very disappointing.

Some thought Hunger was a natural power forward, or a player who slotted between the 4 and 5. That sort of physique can perform effectively at the 5 in the Atlantic 10, where the centers are not as big or athletic.

It will be unfortunate for NU fans if Collins is unable to replace Hunger via the transfer portal and ends up playing a true freshman (or two) for major minutes at the 5 - or if the backup center is a transfer who isn't as good as Hunger. It seems to me that Hunger would have stayed if he only had 1 year of eligibility and hadn't earned his degree, but expectations are high for incoming Cade Bennerman, so Hunger's minutes two years from now looked very limited at NU. The timing made sense to leave.
great synopsis of Hunger
 
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My primary concern about staffing bigs for the coming season is that they have enough fouls to give to keep a big in the game for 40 minutes.
 

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Good luck to Luke. A good landing place that he has a better shot to contribute on the Court and also a strong academic landing spot to continue his scholastic career. He didn't work out at NU and it's a mutually beneficial parting of ways. I wish him well on and off the court. Happy he found a good spot like this.
 

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So at what point to we start to get nervous that we don't have a starting center for next season?
 

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So at what point to we start to get nervous that we don't have a starting center for next season?
Like two weeks ago.

They're gonna get somebody, but I'm concerned about how low in the barrel we'll be reaching.
 

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Hunger left for a better opportunity. It’s not a calamity. Hunger just didn’t develop and regressed. We could live with his allergies to defense if he provided some offense but that didn’t happen. Depends on POV who is to blame Coach or player. All I know for sure, is Hunger didn’t add much at all this year. I expect Hunger will be the basketball equivalent to what Sully has become in the football board. Fans love to follow their former NU athletes and find reasons why they still should be here.
 

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What fact do you think is a subtle dig at Collins?

When he recruits a guy and that guy never improves, its tough to find positive things to say.

But when you take facts and claim they are biased, you sound like a loser politician.

“It will be unfortunate for NU fans if Collins is unable to replace Hunger via the transfer portal and ends up playing a true freshman (or two) for major minutes at the 5 - or if the backup center is a transfer who isn't as good as Hunger.”

You know damn well Collins will be bringing in a transfer big.
 

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My primary concern about staffing bigs for the coming season is that they have enough fouls to give to keep a big in the game for 40 minutes.
We have a lot of depth at other positions and I can see us being able to go without a true 5 and run teams into the ground during certain stretches
 

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You know damn well Collins will be bringing in a transfer big.
That's what I said about a month ago. Now, I'm just wondering why it hasn't happened yet? But maybe it's normal that this process stretches out this long. I can't remember last year. Just feels strange that we officially announced two transfers last week and neither was that starting center.
 

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That's what I said about a month ago. Now, I'm just wondering why it hasn't happened yet? But maybe it's normal that this process stretches out this long. I can't remember last year. Just feels strange that we officially announced two transfers last week and neither was that starting center.
The NIL market for transfer centers is crazy. I think it certainly caught NU, and many schools, off guard.
 

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That's what I said about a month ago. Now, I'm just wondering why it hasn't happened yet? But maybe it's normal that this process stretches out this long. I can't remember last year. Just feels strange that we officially announced two transfers last week and neither was that starting center.
Our #3 option we were chatting with suddenly got like $2 million from USC to be a role player. NU upped its NIL game considerably, but the market really is that wild. They’re gonna get somebody, I just hope they’re a legit 25 minute defensive presence.
 

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“It will be unfortunate for NU fans if Collins is unable to replace Hunger via the transfer portal and ends up playing a true freshman (or two) for major minutes at the 5 - or if the backup center is a transfer who isn't as good as Hunger.”

You know damn well Collins will be bringing in a transfer big.

I know damned well that Collins is trying to get a big guy who can play right away.
Even if he thinks Bennerman can be the starter, we need a second center.
I'm hoping Tyler Kropp can help out, if necessary. Maybe as a Gavin Skelly type.

The situation presumably means Collins will get somebody - and hopefully he can get somebody better than Hunger - but that isn't a sure thing. Hopefully we can get a young guy like JT Rock from Iowa State or somebody similar. That would be great. But the pool of available grad transfers is much smaller - and we got Verhoeven, Preston and Fitzmorris from that pool. So, I'm not sure its a layup.
 

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That's what I said about a month ago. Now, I'm just wondering why it hasn't happened yet? But maybe it's normal that this process stretches out this long. I can't remember last year.
Leach committed on April 22 last year. Langborg on April 23 the year before.
 
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I know damned well that Collins is trying to get a big guy who can play right away.
Even if he thinks Bennerman can be the starter, we need a second center.
I'm hoping Tyler Kropp can help out, if necessary. Maybe as a Gavin Skelly type.

The situation presumably means Collins will get somebody - and hopefully he can get somebody better than Hunger - but that isn't a sure thing. Hopefully we can get a young guy like JT Rock from Iowa State or somebody similar. That would be great. But the pool of available grad transfers is much smaller - and we got Verhoeven, Preston and Fitzmorris from that pool. So, I'm not sure it’s a layup.
Don’t look at grad transfers for bigs. Current options > Hunger, especially on the ceiling side of things. If the transfer is meant to replace Hunger not Matt, we should be feeling very good about the potential transfer. Especially if the general thoughts on who we get from the Rock are accurate. Given what Hunger brought last year to the table, yes it is almost a given the transfer in will be as good as or better than that. Hunger was not good last year. Some serious upside on these transfer targets. Probably not instant impact guys, but if the bar is better than Hunger should be above that.
 
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We have a lot of depth at other positions and I can see us being able to go without a true 5 and run teams into the ground during certain stretches
otoh, we will be playing several freshmen a lot, and we know freshmen hit a wall during conference. We also know that Nick's game is exhausting and he will struggle at the end of games, so the odds seem greater the Cats will be the ones running into the ground. But maybe Collins will have a new offensive plan that takes advantage of the new and developing players that eases Nick's burdens.
 

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I give you credit…you are terrific at taking any bit of news and somehow manipulating it to take a subtle dig at Collins. Do you work for The NY Times? Washington Post? CNN?
Hey, credit to you, too…for taking a relatively innocuous comment and contorting it to make an unsubtle (but weirdly belabored!) dig at mainstream media.

Do you work for Fox News? Newsmax?
 

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otoh, we will be playing several freshmen a lot, and we know freshmen hit a wall during conference. We also know that Nick's game is exhausting and he will struggle at the end of games, so the odds seem greater the Cats will be the ones running into the ground. But maybe Collins will have a new offensive plan that takes advantage of the new and developing players that eases Nick's burdens.
We have not had the depth at those positions we will have this year,, At PG we will have Reid and Clayton plus KJ (West is a Frosh and I don't see him getting that many minutes with the guys in front of him) . At the 2/3 you have KJ, Green, Ciaravino, and Mullins (Frosh Gill) and Smith. At the 3/4 we have Martinelli and Frosh (Kropp and Singleton) . For the 5 we are not sure yet and (Bennerman Frosh) . Sure seems like there is enough depth (with experience at the other positions other than center to make it pretty interesting not even having to rely on Frosh.
 

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Agreed, so the team just needs a starting center who isn't a foul machine to help us get thru the games and give Bennerman time to develop.
We likely need the center but I just feel we are not as dependent on the position for this year considering what we could do at other positions, Over the years plenty of teams have had success not really having a center with different approaches to O and D (sort of positionless basketball) . This year, we have the assets to be able to do that. Not sure we will but it is an option
 

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Is there breaking news?
White smoke has emerged from The Rock amidst much speculation about Arrinten Page. No confirmation of anything not behind a paywall yet though. There is some buzz on social media about a commit there, but nothing I'd call sourced yet. That said, if you connect the dots... seems like it's probably Page.
 

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White smoke has emerged from The Rock amidst much speculation about Arrinten Page. No confirmation of anything not behind a paywall yet though. There is some buzz on social media about a commit there, but nothing I'd call sourced yet. That said, if you connect the dots... seems like it's probably Page.
It’s sourced on the rock
 

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Technically there are. Just requires NU to commit to 15 schollies. Maybe that’s one of the things ccc pressed for in renegotiations. And what happens if BB gets another year?
If BB magically gets another year you would have to boot a walk on. However, it appears we are going down a path where all current members of teams are grandfathered in with an assured roster spot.
 

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If BB magically gets another year you would have to boot a walk on. However, it appears we are going down a path where all current members of teams are grandfathered in with an assured roster spot.

I was thinking the same. You have to kick a walk-on off the team or make him a student manager.
I don't know the ethics of that. I wouldn't do it.
When you say "grandfathered in with an assured roster spot" do you mean at NU specifically or is there some new (pathetic) NCAA edict floating around?
 

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I was thinking the same. You have to kick a walk-on off the team or make him a student manager.
I don't know the ethics of that. I wouldn't do it.
When you say "grandfathered in with an assured roster spot" do you mean at NU specifically or is there some new (pathetic) NCAA edict floating around?
Federal judge raised exactly this concern and blocked the House's action until this one issue is solved. I imagine they'll do exactly as PPD said.
 

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Federal judge raised exactly this concern and blocked the House's action until this one issue is solved. I imagine they'll do exactly as PPD said.

this isn't going to end until there's one rule and that rule is "Do Whatever You Want To Do."

If you want to buy 100 players to eliminate competition, go for it.
If you want to eliminate the whole "Has to Be Enrolled At The School" thing, go for it.
If you want to allow mid-game transfers, go for it.

After all, somebody might sue you if you prohibit them from doing whatever their tiny little heart desires.