Mac Jones flips to Alabama?!?!
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Well that's three recruits that have left us. My thought has always been that I'd love to have these guys but want the guys that love Lexington. You win with people that want to be here. Move on to the next guy in line.
If we expect to keep them, we've gotta win games. Winning will cure these things. Stinks right now, but we ain't one of the big boys in football, like we are in basketball. We just need to win some games against good teams in our league. Not the teams on don years. We desperately need to beat UT, Florida, Bama, or the likes. We're getting better as far as level of talent. But we need some wins to make the next step.
No, winning won't cure it. We have had 2 flip to UGA from Bama this cycle after them winning the NC and us not making it to the SEC championship game, not to mention them trashing us head to head. UK has had kids flip to them after 5 win season, good kids too. So it's more than just winning that causes it. Its other coaches continuing to treat them like kings, calling, tweeting, visiting and welcoming them to campus. The thing is, they show kids committed elsewhere more attention than kids who aren't committed.
So tired of losing recruits. I knew it was coming, but is just so disappointing. I really hope Stoops can turn things around and start winning more here so that eventually we can get and keep these great talents.
So hard to fight against the tradition of Bama though. Like recruiting against UK in basketball. They get who they want.
So hard to fight against the tradition of Bama though. Like recruiting against UK in basketball. They get who they want.
He can promptly lick my balloon knot. What a B.
I think your second sentence just disproved your first one. Winning doesn't make you immune but you do need to win or you can just forget it. This sucks but you have to admit we have not been a good place for QBs to go lately. Considering that Morgan Newton was that last QB to start a game for us that finished his career here we might have the worst track record in football at the QB spot right now. If you recruit kids at this level you have to convince them you can get them to the next level. We have been very poor at QB development under Stoops.
Losing recruits is part of the game. The one thing Stoops has absolutely done right is cast a big enough net that even losing good recruits won't kill us. Even with these losses we are still taking steps forward in overall talent.
lol Which school would you want your kid to go to for football being from Florida??? Kentucky ain't the first choice. Grow up, our football program sucks. I applaud Stoops for offering all these kids, but he has to know once the big dogs come we will have trouble holding onto them.
Ala. wins, but how many qbs have they put in the pros since Saban b as been there? As I posted earlier, in the 8-9 years NS has been at Bama they have signed 13 qbs...two of them have started.
F"m in the A. What a two faced sack of ****. F him and F him hard. What a ginormous stink filled piece of excrement. Eat a phat pile of diarrhea.
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if he's really good he may start his junior or senior year .. that is if no one who comes in is better. If he's been watching, saban doesn't want anyone but a game manager at QB.
Until a kid signs on the dotted line, he's free game. Works both ways, but the bottom line, kids want to compete for a national championship (like UK basketball). You get love from a top program and it becomes mighty hard to turn them down. I'm sure UK could pry kids away from MAC programs because UK is the higher profile program. It's just where UK stands in the football recruiting pecking order. Stoops and staff have actually done a great job of prying kids out of OH and other places that some higher profile programs wanted. The truth is, until we put SEC titles and National Championship contention into the resume, kids will always have that lure of higher programs (even late into the process).
Until the University decides to make a full commitment to the football program, top athletes will continue to take more lucrative positions. Mac Jones to Bama with that staff, in 3 years he could be the number 1 overall draft pick. Currently at UK, he might go undrafted after 4 years.
Quit with the "if they love Lexington/UK they'll want to be here and those are the guys we need." What bunch of horseshit, win games and you keep these guys!
That was the case the first 6-7 years, but the last couple of years with Kiffin as OC Bama's qb has actually made game changing plays. A Bama receiver has led the conference in catches and yardage the last 2 years with over 1k yards receiving. The championship game against Clemson it was the Bama passing game that stood out and put them in position to win the game, not that pounding running game. Clemson was all in on not letting Henry beat them and Bama hurt them deep several times. They will still pound you, but their offense isn't what it was 3-5 years ago.
Yeah pretty much couldnt of said it better. Like a kid in basketball in opposite situation and Im sure Bama fans,would agree. We need to get to some bowls lets face it.
I'd say they have committed pretty good.Jones the number one draft pick in three years(I'll take a little of that).
I can understand the guy choosing Bama over UK. I can even understand him flipping from UK to Bama. But what I can't forgive him for is him running around talking about being 100% committed to UK, about his "marriage" to Coach Stoops, about shutting down his recruitment, then turning around and doing the exact opposite of what he said. He led us on big time and he disrespected us badly by acting in such a manner. He may only be 17 years old but he's still old enough to know better than that. This whole episode has proven him to be a lying dirtbag. F&^% him for treating this program, these coaches and our fans this way. If he wants respect as his tweets suggest, then first he needs to learn that respect is something you earn with your actions. His actions prove he isn't worthy of any respect at all.
i for ! felt Mac would keep his word & come to Uk. He seemed to have had a few people in his head about going elsewhere. He is 17 years old, who has blown up after we offered. He sure did not handle the the process well with UK. Dawson, I would think was in his ear, after we let him go. Like many others have stated Bama is gold to most recruits, but, the QB issue with Bama is different story line for me. Most leave or do not see the field. I wish Mac well. Uk will be ok.
So what more do they need to do to show "full commitment". Are the stadium renovations not enough? Is the entirely new state of the art practice facility not enough? Is the vastly increased recruiting budget not enough? Is the new recruiting room not enough? Yes, they held out making that commitment for far too long, but now they have invested pretty darn heavily into the football program and are showing that they are making that "full commitment" you are looking for. I know the results on the field haven't quite been there yet, but we are getting much closer to being where we want to be.
Been a UK football fan since the Bear era and commitment by UK football program is stronger than ever!
Mark Stoops must much improves his sidelines coaching, this season win seven games then all true non band wagon fans will be happy. My opinion has been 2017 season results will determine Coach Stoops UK future. Pulling for Mark Stoops I personally like him.
Way to early for me to predict Mac Jones Bama stardom, their roster now has many qb. listed!
I will give stoops and the coaching staff credit, they have a really good eye for talent when they scout prospects. The problem is it doesn't matter who finds the talent first because that means nothing. Getting the signature on the LOI is the key. To compete with the major programs you have to win games and show the kids that your making improvements. People need to remember that stoops inherited a terrible roster from top to bottom and it takes time to improve the roster in the toughest league in college football. I'm going to reserve judgment until I see how this Eddie gran hire works out. The offense put us in terrible positions all year last year and at least stoops hired a coach with a good resume this time.
Yep that's the major closing line for Bama and other big boys. The truth is the facilities here vs other places not that different, you have everything you could possibly want at your disposal as an athlete and its' all here. And you'r still in the SEC, still on TV all the time, still in a great college town, have more chance for playing time, still have just as good a chance to get drafted here than there . . . BUT . . . all they have to say is do you really want to go your career and never play in the final four with the whole country watching? That's the one thing I know is hard for us to overcome in recruiting. Even for guys that now they will be sitting for two years, they also know there's a good chance they will be on a plane going to Dallas, or Pheonix or wherever for the equivalent of the final four.
Fans always try to play this game - and I'm including UL fans in the same boat - but the reality is that Alabama has still put more QBs in the pros than either UL or UK over the same time frame. So if that's somehow the argument, well, it doesn't really make a lot of sense.
The other thing is, there's only 2-3 QBs on each roster in the NFL. It's super select group, so to act like every great college team will churn them out is ridiculous. The numbers just don't work out at that position.
No idea what actually happened. But this is how my best guess goes. First of getting a Bama offer doesn't mean they will accept a commitment from you, its basically an invitation to visit the campus. After seeing him at some camps, he made the visit, talked to the coaches and they decided to make it a commitable offer within a timeframe, like right now. He doesn't do that with the guys he feels are elite, but he does with guys who he feels he can find someone just as good later. So he told him Bama would accept his commitment right then, but it was off the table if he didn't accept it right then. Jones is no different than other bigtime recruits, he has an ego, going to Bama is stroking that ego. Will he ever win the job at Bama, will they over recruit him next year? That's anyone's guess and something he would have to face if he enrolled at UK. With Barker here 3 more years, it would mean 3 more classes and UK coaches wouldn't be doing their job if they weren't trying to over recruit him. Its the nature of the business.
That's sure true enough, I don't really follow the NFL much so I don't know all the starters, I would be a little surprised if any school had more than 1 starter, and some of them are from small schools, some from schools who aren't very good normally too. Wasn't the 2nd qb taken in the last draft from somewhere like North Dakota State?
We will recover from this de-commitment. It stings but we will be okay. I really felt that after Bama accepted the QB from Hawaii that we would maybe be able to keep Jones. I think losing Hudson will hurt us much more than losing Jones. But to me, the ONLY commitment I want to receive in this class is from Jedrick Wills. If we can land him then to me, Mac Jones will just be a bad memory.