Marshall Marshall Marshall

[Get Nasty]

What in the world was he doing last night? Was he trying to see how hard he could throw it off the backboard? I Think he dented the backboard 3-5 times. Is it possible to dent glass?

Thankfully it was a blowout so I was laughing and not swearing at the TV!

He absolutely needs to be in there playing solid minutes for rebounding, put backs, alley oops, and defense but I have no clue why he is even posting up. You are what you are, that's ok. He can not make a move and finish or pass with his back to the basket. Let him play his arse off, rebound, and dunk. Hopefully we see some coaching here. "If you get the ball and can't go right up with it, pass it back out".

 

[DukeDenver]

I thought most of his attempts were OK. He has shown post up ability in the past, just been off lately. Should we have benched Ingram and Kennard due to stretches of brickdom? What about Grayson after UK? Marshall knows not to do that against better teams.

 

[dukiejay]

I think it was the staff giving him some opportunities. I'd rather they experiment with it while we have a 20+ point lead than during an ACC game.

Marshall is what he is. He's very valuable to this team, but he lacks the coordination of his brothers. My wife calls him "jerky"....which is sort of true. A great athlete but very indecisive with the ball in his hands. His best game is when he doesn't have to think about it.

 

[Crank_it_loud]

I liked his aggressiveness - the kid has come a long way and is playing well and staying outta foul trouble.

 

[dukedevilz]

He gets greats position on the block and he often has his defender sealed - just a manner of finishing the play once he gets the ball that deep. I felt good every time he got the ball that deep - if the big man can catch the ball within 5 feet of the basket, it's usually going to be a high percentage shot. But yes, some of his shots last night were painfully wild.

 

[Get Nasty]

I thought most of his attempts were OK. He has shown post up ability in the past, just been off lately. Should we have benched Ingram and Kennard due to stretches of brickdom? What about Grayson after UK? Marshall knows not to do that against better teams.

I didn't say anything about benching him, actually I said the exact opposite. K did demote Ingram to the bench from a starting roll when he was playing poorly. As for Kennard, I have no clue what's going on with his shot. I don't think a great shooter has every gone through such a long shooting slump. I hope he comes out of it because he's getting wide open looks. With that being said, his body language and hustle needs to improve when he misses, i'm sure the coaches will talk about that when watching the film.

As for Marshall, he got great looks, the problem was any time he created his look with a move he through up some wild shot that wasn't even close. Stick to what you're good at big man!

 

[aah555]

I don't think a great shooter has every gone through such a long shooting slump.

I think you're presuming Kennard is a great shooter at this stage of his career. Not much evidence of that to date in competitive game situations. If you look at his stats for the year, Kennard has only shot above 40% in 2 of 11 games -- against Bryant and Utah State. While I think he's got the talent-level to become a good shooter at this level, I do worry that we're seeing the large growing pains associated with going from small-town Ohio basketball to college. I'm sure the windows Kennard has to take shots and the size / athleticism of the defenders he's going against now are vastly different from what he say on a night-in, night-out basis in high school. Further, unlike in high school, where he basically had a complete green light to shoot as frequently as he wanted -- he's in a setting now where he doesn't always have the ball in his hand and his probably at best the 3rd option on the team. That's an adjustment for a kid who probably took about 1/2 of his team's shots in high school. Kennard will likely become very good -- like Grayson has become very good. But, I also don't think there's much chance Kennard would have been playing much at all if he were a freshman on last year's team (i.e., Grayson's situation). Right now Kennard is being given opportunities out of necessity; rather than because he's ready to contribute at a high-level.

As for Marshall, I have no problem with Marshall attempting to make an offensive move now or then in a blowout game. If he doesn't try now, when should he try? Also, even if Marshall's never primarily looking to score, he can't be afraid to try and make a play -- b/c while we don't need him to consistently score, we can't have him be such a non-factor that the other team elects to not defend him at all.

 

[2 skerz 3_rivals208847]

I think you're presuming Kennard is a great shooter at this stage of his career. Not much evidence of that to date in competitive game situations. If you look at his stats for the year, Kennard has only shot above 40% in 2 of 11 games -- against Bryant and Utah State. While I think he's got the talent-level to become a good shooter at this level, I do worry that we're seeing the large growing pains associated with going from small-town Ohio basketball to college. I'm sure the windows Kennard has to take shots and the size / athleticism of the defenders he's going against now are vastly different from what he say on a night-in, night-out basis in high school. Further, unlike in high school, where he basically had a complete green light to shoot as frequently as he wanted -- he's in a setting now where he doesn't always have the ball in his hand and his probably at best the 3rd option on the team. That's an adjustment for a kid who probably took about 1/2 of his team's shots in high school. Kennard will likely become very good -- like Grayson has become very good. But, I also don't think there's much chance Kennard would have been playing much at all if he were a freshman on last year's team (i.e., Grayson's situation). Right now Kennard is being given opportunities out of necessity; rather than because he's ready to contribute at a high-level.

As for Marshall, I have no problem with Marshall attempting to make an offensive move now or then in a blowout game. If he doesn't try now, when should he try? Also, even if Marshall's never primarily looking to score, he can't be afraid to try and make a play -- b/c while we don't need him to consistently score, we can't have him be such a non-factor that the other team elects to not defend him at all.

Kennard is a great shooter!

 

[HeLooks2MuchLikeDave]

Marshall's post moves were atrocious last night. And they've been pretty bad all season. He corrals the ball down low, uses his arm to power hook the defender (a foul) and usually ends up with an off balanced attempt. Such a difference to Amile's silky smooth back to the basket game. BUT, he does draw fouls and he uses his body well to get in position for defensive rebounds. I have no problem with him trying to score when he catches the ball 5 feet from the basket. Need to keep defenses honest. Just wish he would keep the ball higher and pivot quicker.

 

[Get Nasty]

I think you're presuming Kennard is a great shooter at this stage of his career. Not much evidence of that to date in competitive game situations. If you look at his stats for the year, Kennard has only shot above 40% in 2 of 11 games -- against Bryant and Utah State. While I think he's got the talent-level to become a good shooter at this level, I do worry that we're seeing the large growing pains associated with going from small-town Ohio basketball to college. I'm sure the windows Kennard has to take shots and the size / athleticism of the defenders he's going against now are vastly different from what he say on a night-in, night-out basis in high school. Further, unlike in high school, where he basically had a complete green light to shoot as frequently as he wanted -- he's in a setting now where he doesn't always have the ball in his hand and his probably at best the 3rd option on the team. That's an adjustment for a kid who probably took about 1/2 of his team's shots in high school. Kennard will likely become very good -- like Grayson has become very good. But, I also don't think there's much chance Kennard would have been playing much at all if he were a freshman on last year's team (i.e., Grayson's situation). Right now Kennard is being given opportunities out of necessity; rather than because he's ready to contribute at a high-level.

As for Marshall, I have no problem with Marshall attempting to make an offensive move now or then in a blowout game. If he doesn't try now, when should he try? Also, even if Marshall's never primarily looking to score, he can't be afraid to try and make a play -- b/c while we don't need him to consistently score, we can't have him be such a non-factor that the other team elects to not defend him at all.

If you've watched any duke game this year, ready any article on Kennard, you would have heard or read about how lights out of a shooter Kennard is. Even last night they quoted Caple "If kennard is open with his feet set from 3, count it". He's 25% from 3 and they have not been tough looks. But he's 95% from the FT line.

Look, i'm extremely confused with Luke as I really thought he might steal some minutes at the point and possibly from matt jones. Matt is shooting much better than I would have expected and I couldn't have imagined Luke shooting worse. I am really pulling for luke as I think he's what could really help duke make a serious run this year. You could potentially have 3 lethal threats on the court from 3 at the same time, possibly 4 with ingrams improved shooting.

 

[aah555]

If you've watched any duke game this year, ready any article on Kennard, you would have heard or read about how lights out of a shooter Kennard is. Even last night they quoted Caple "If kennard is open with his feet set from 3, count it". He's 25% from 3 and they have not been tough looks. But he's 95% from the FT line.

Yes, I don't dispute that Kennard entered college with the reputation of being a good shooter. Clearly he's got ability. But making uncontested shots in low-pressure practices does not necessarily translate to playing in games. Kennard's clearly having difficulties with the adjustment of shooting the ball in competitive game situations. That's hardly unprecedented for a freshman, but I also don't necessarily think what we're seeing is just a slump. If you look at his high-school tape, Kennard was not a catch-and-shoot player like a JJ or Andre Dawkins out of high school. Instead, a large percentage of his perimeter jumpers came after dribbling the ball for a few seconds and eyeing up his defender for a couple seconds before letting it go (who was typically a good 5 or 6 inches shorter than him). Nothing I've seen thus far to date suggests he's particularly comfortable as a catch-and-shoot player, which is the role he's being asked to play. It somewhat reminds me of Austin Rivers, who was relatively very good at difficult step back 3s -- but very mediocre with uncontested catch-and-shoot 3s. IMO, it's not an issue with his stroke. It's an issue that he's not able to get good shots off in the manner he was accustomed to in high school -- and he's not particularly comfortable with the type of shots he can get.

Kennard has gotten a ton of minutes against relatively poor competition. He just hasn't shown any ability to consistently produce. He's been even worse against high-level competition. 2 of 14 against UK, G-Town, and VCU, and only 3 of 10 against an IU team that barely played any defense. At this point, I would be transitioning from Kennard to Thornton as the starter. Thornton has been inconsistent, but has definitely shown an ability to play in big moments. I'm just not seeing it from Kennard. IMO, he's one of those guys who may help us win a game or two in the course of the year when he's hot -- but frankly will not be the type of kid we can rely upon consistently. On most nights, I think Kennard hurts us more than he helps us (relative to the alternatives we could play).

 

[HeLooks2MuchLikeDave]

It should be pointed out that Matt Jones came in with the reputation of being a lights out 3pt shooter. He shot 14% from behind the arc his freshman year. He shot 37% last year and is close to 46% this year. Luke is going to raise his percentage. And the fact that he is still seeing 21 minutes per game despite his struggles is a testament to what Coach thinks of him (Matt Jones played only 7mpg his first season). We all know Coach K isn't afraid to sit heralded underclassmen. In fact, before the season most on this board predicted Kennard would be the biggest casualty due to the logjam as the 2 spot.

 

[DiehardDukeFan4Life]

I don't have any issues with him taking shots but last night it just seemed like he was shooting just a little too hard off the backboard on some of his shots. I believe he probably would've had 6-8 more points if he had shot a little softer.

 

[aah555]

It should be pointed out that Matt Jones came in with the reputation of being a lights out 3pt shooter. He shot 14% from behind the arc his freshman year. He shot 37% last year and is close to 46% this year. Luke is going to raise his percentage. And the fact that he is still seeing 21 minutes per game despite his struggles is a testament to what Coach thinks of him (Matt Jones played only 7mpg his first season). We all know Coach K isn't afraid to sit heralded underclassmen. In fact, before the season most on this board predicted Kennard would be the biggest casualty due to the logjam as the 2 spot.

Though, I tend to think its more a testament to how little K thinks of the rest of the roster. If you listened to his press-conference after last night's game, it really does feel as if K basically thinks he only has a 6 man team after Amile's injury -- with Chase now getting some minutes b/c we have no options. It was actually somewhat stunning when he jumped in to interrupt a reporter who tried to analogize the lack of depth now to the lack of depth last year once we went down to 8. K, in essence, said that there is no comparison between the two -- as last year we had 8 really good players. Whereas, this year, we really only have a few really good players (Allen, Ingram, Jones) and a bunch of young guys who aren't really all that ready.

 

[ChapelTower]

Marshall's post moves were atrocious last night. And they've been pretty bad all season. He corrals the ball down low, uses his arm to power hook the defender (a foul) and usually ends up with an off balanced attempt. Such a difference to Amile's silky smooth back to the basket game. BUT, he does draw fouls and he uses his body well to get in position for defensive rebounds. I have no problem with him trying to score when he catches the ball 5 feet from the basket. Need to keep defenses honest. Just wish he would keep the ball higher and pivot quicker.

Also too many unnecessary pump fakes. Maybe he should take some dancing lessons. He has no rhythm and moves very robotically.

 

[Tim1515]

Yes there are plenty of examples of great shooters struggling as freshman. Better defense...faster game...less opportunities to catch a rhythm and confidence plays a huge role.

Matt Jones is a perfect example...so is Greg Paulus and there are plenty more if you dig.

 

[jamsession3]

I think you're presuming Kennard is a great shooter at this stage of his career. Not much evidence of that to date in competitive game situations. If you look at his stats for the year, Kennard has only shot above 40% in 2 of 11 games -- against Bryant and Utah State. While I think he's got the talent-level to become a good shooter at this level, I do worry that we're seeing the large growing pains associated with going from small-town Ohio basketball to college. I'm sure the windows Kennard has to take shots and the size / athleticism of the defenders he's going against now are vastly different from what he say on a night-in, night-out basis in high school. Further, unlike in high school, where he basically had a complete green light to shoot as frequently as he wanted -- he's in a setting now where he doesn't always have the ball in his hand and his probably at best the 3rd option on the team. That's an adjustment for a kid who probably took about 1/2 of his team's shots in high school. Kennard will likely become very good -- like Grayson has become very good. But, I also don't think there's much chance Kennard would have been playing much at all if he were a freshman on last year's team (i.e., Grayson's situation). Right now Kennard is being given opportunities out of necessity; rather than because he's ready to contribute at a high-level.

As for Marshall, I have no problem with Marshall attempting to make an offensive move now or then in a blowout game. If he doesn't try now, when should he try? Also, even if Marshall's never primarily looking to score, he can't be afraid to try and make a play -- b/c while we don't need him to consistently score, we can't have him be such a non-factor that the other team elects to not defend him at all.

He is not a great shooter...but he is doing something right to stay on the court. No way have I seen Coach K give a player this much rope(maybe Tyler and Wojo). Luke is 6'5... that may play a role with his pt.

 

[aah555]

..but he is doing something right to stay on the court. No way have I seen Coach K give a player this much rope(maybe Tyler and Wojo). Luke is 6'5... that may play a role with his pt.

That's a pretty flawed assumption under the circumstances IMO. Regardless of what K would like to do, reality is that he's required to field a basketball team -- something that's not really possible if Kennard didn't play in view of K's negative assessment of Jeter / Obi. It's a matter of numbers. Prior to Amile's injury, we were playing 7 men even with the cold-shooting Kennard. Without Amile, we're now literally down to 6. This is not a rec. league. A college basketball team needs at least 6-7 players to play an even remotely competitive game.

With that said, I do think you're right about his size playing a role in the decision to start him. I think the plan moving forward is to play a lot of zone until Amile gets back (hopefully) -- and a zone is far more effective with longer players. Thornton's a better man defender than Kennard, but that's not really of much value if we're playing a 1-3-1 or 2-3.

And, to be clear, I'm not saying that everything Kennard is doing is bad. He's been okay notwithstanding his horrific shooting. My only point is that I don't think he's the type of player who would normally be getting a significant amount of minutes this early in their career. His minutes IMO have clearly been driven by our lack of depth. For instance, if Sheed had not been dismissed, do I think Kennard would be seeing much of the floor this season? No, probably not. But reality is that between Tyus declaring, Semi transferring, and Sheed getting dismissed -- Kennard's being given a chance now that he probably wouldn't have if the roster had evolved in the way K expected.

 

[jamsession3]

well said aah

 

[youngman42]

This discussion has morphed a number of different and interesting directions. Enjoying the thread. My $.02:

On Marshall shooting - fine to get it out of his system now. But, Plumlee is best suited if he takes his cue from Zoubek's senior season. Z learned that the best thing for him was to rebound and shot block. If he got the ball, pass it out (I remember one play in the tournament - he was got an offensive rebound right at the rim of the opponent with an almost sure 2 put back and he kicked it out. It just showed great discipline of his decision to play within himself and know who the scorers were on the team).

On Luke - aah555 is making great points here. I think much of it comes down to learning to shoot quicker and handling the pressure of in-game shooting. Scheyer had that struggle early on also. Great scorer coming out of high school but had to adjust to the game. Sometimes players do make adjustments and sometimes they struggle to shoot their entire career. It's an odd thing.

On the Bench - very frustrating as it appeared we'd be a very deep team this season. It has been disappointing to see Obi and Jeter have so few minutes. I didn't expect Jeter to start but did expect him to be a bigger contributor. Same with Obi. I expected a good 7-8 mpg - esp. against big men. But, he's played only 9 total minutes the entire year!

Consider this quote from Jeff Capel last year on Obi:

“[Obi] was in high school with Andre Drummond of the Detroit Pistons,” associate head coach Jeff Capel said. “Andre was on our U.S. team. Andre says, to this day, he was the toughest guy he ever had to play, as far as having the hardest time scoring on. Sean is really strong—really strong and really physical. He was good for us in practice this past year playing against Jah.”

http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2015/06/so-fresh-so-clean

And, he was the leading rebounder in Conference USA his freshman year, when he won freshman of the year. It's obvious he wasn't going to get a lot of minutes behind Plumlee and Jefferson but one would expect a 5-7 mpg. player. He'll get a few more now but I would like to see him banging in there in games a bit more and see what we have under the lights.

 

[dukehokie]

True on Luke, but the thing is, he has other parts of his game that have been high level, so his shooting is not the only thing keeping him in games (as a testament to his poor percentage). In comparable minutes to his teammates he has turned the ball over the least, he's shown a willingness to rebound off ball, he has missed only 1 free throw on a bad free throw shooting team, and he has actually been a better driver than he has a shooter.

So to say he would only be getting spot minutes should other players have been here is not totally accurate in my opinion. He has shown a high level IQ and has been very vocal on the court. K has played worse players on better teams as much as he has played Luke for those very same intangibles.

So, no Luke has not been a good shooter this season. It doesn't speak to his capability, just to what he has actually shown. Judging by his free throw shooting, he is obviously a capable shooter. He's in a slump probably brought upon by increased strength training and reteaching himself muscle memory in getting off a quicker shot. He's millimeters off from having a much better percentage.

However, his intangibles keep him on the floor, and they will continue to do so.

 

[2 skerz 3_rivals208847]

He is not a great shooter...but he is doing something right to stay on the court. No way have I seen Coach K give a player this much rope(maybe Tyler and Wojo). Luke is 6'5... that may play a role with his pt.

Kennard is a great shooter!

 

[Get Nasty]

It should be pointed out that Matt Jones came in with the reputation of being a lights out 3pt shooter. He shot 14% from behind the arc his freshman year. He shot 37% last year and is close to 46% this year. Luke is going to raise his percentage. And the fact that he is still seeing 21 minutes per game despite his struggles is a testament to what Coach thinks of him (Matt Jones played only 7mpg his first season). We all know Coach K isn't afraid to sit heralded underclassmen. In fact, before the season most on this board predicted Kennard would be the biggest casualty due to the logjam as the 2 spot.

Matt had a deer in the headlights look his frosh year where you don't see that with Luke. Last year he got more confident with his shot but still was only really able to make uncontested shots. This year he still is more of an uncontested 3 point shooter or at least a catch and shoot type.

 

[LetsGoDukies]

By the time Luke leaves Duke we will be wondering why his shooting ability was ever in question. He will be deadly behind the arc once he gets more experience and confidence.

 

[Get Nasty]

With Luke he didn't come in with the reputation as a good shooter, he came in with the reputation of the next JJ type shooter. Matt, Greg, Jon all came in as capable 3 point shooters but not lights out.

Probably too high of expectations for Luke, but I'm just shocked at how poor his outside shot has been. I would understand if he was going 0-1 or 0-2 in games but he's getting a lot of looks so it's not from lack of shooting that I think you typically see from Frosh.

But as others have said, it's an adjustment, and he is doing a lot of other things really well.

 

[dukehokie]

With Luke he didn't come in with the reputation as a good shooter, he came in with the reputation of the next JJ type shooter. Matt, Greg, Jon all came in as capable 3 point shooters but not lights out.

Not to quibble about Matt, but he was viewed as the best shooter in his class.

My point is that it's not about their reputation or whatever, but whether or not they can do what's asked. Until his shot falls he's asked to find ways to help his team which he has done as you pointed out.

 

[jimlsumner]

Kennard is 22-23 from the foul line this season, which suggests some innate shooting ability. He hasn't quite figured out what constitutes a good shot and how to get one against college-level defenders. I suspect he will and once that happens, he'll start knocking down jumpers with regularity.

Marshall? Right now, I'll take solid D and rebounding, staying out of foul trouble and getting points off targets of opportunity. I'm not sure he'll ever be a consistent back-to-the-basket scoring option.

 

[dukehokie]

Kennard is 22-23 from the foul line this season, which suggests some innate shooting ability. He hasn't quite figured out what constitutes a good shot and how to get one against college-level defenders. I suspect he will and once that happens, he'll start knocking down jumpers with regularity.

Marshall? Right now, I'll take solid D and rebounding, staying out of foul trouble and getting points off targets of opportunity. I'm not sure he'll ever be a consistent back-to-the-basket scoring option.

Luke has had plenty of good shots. They just aren't falling. He was visibly and vocally frustrated after the game. It'll fall eventually. They just haven't yet.

 

[Bill Buttlicker]

One of commentators said that Kennard shoots lights out in practice. Look for him to really improve after Christmas.

 

[jamsession3]

Kennard is a great shooter!

No he's not, but that does not take away from his importance to the team. He is doing other things, like rebounding, hitting free throws, passing, etc,... but he needs to work on his defense.

I really wonder about Sean Obi? This kid should be playing. Now, not reading into 'anything', but there may be some things going on, we don't know. Fine. But the kid should be out there.

 

[Get Nasty]

No he's not, but that does not take away from his importance to the team. He is doing other things, like rebounding, hitting free throws, passing, etc,... but he needs to work on his defense.

I really wonder about Sean Obi? This kid should be playing. Now, not reading into 'anything', but there may be some things going on, we don't know. Fine. But the kid should be out there.

As to OBI, i've heard nagging injury reports to knees. His attitude on the bench looks great so at this point it doesn't seem like he's mad about PT.

 

[dopeshop23]

just a few facts to throw in, Franklin Ohio is a suburb of Columbus not exactly "small town". Ohio basketball is pretty darn good, just ask Lebron about it or just check the national recruiting list over the last 10 years you might find more than a handful of Ohio prep standouts...just saying, its not N. Dakota. Luke will be fine...by conference play this will be a different conversation.

 

[2 skerz 3_rivals208847]

No he's not, but that does not take away from his importance to the team. He is doing other things, like rebounding, hitting free throws, passing, etc,... but he needs to work on his defense.

I really wonder about Sean Obi? This kid should be playing. Now, not reading into 'anything', but there may be some things going on, we don't know. Fine. But the kid should be out there.

Kennard is a great shooter...

 

[aah555]

just a few facts to throw in, Franklin Ohio is a suburb of Columbus not exactly "small town". Ohio basketball is pretty darn good, just ask Lebron about it or just check the national recruiting list over the last 10 years you might find more than a handful of Ohio prep standouts...just saying, its not N. Dakota. Luke will be fine...by conference play this will be a different conversation.

Not to be rude, but a lot of that is not accurate and/or is pretty misleading as it relates to Luke. As an initial matter, Franklin is not really a suburb of Columbus or any big city. It's about an 1.5 hr. away from Columbus and an 1.0 hr. away from Cincinnati -- two cities which don't have suburbs that extend anywhere close to an hour out of town. If Franklin is a suburb of anything -- it's a suburb of Dayton. While it's not exactly the middle of nowhere, it's hardly a big environment. More to the point, however, the size / location of the town is actually pretty irrelevant. The issue with Kennard's school was that it was pretty small and played at a pretty low level of Ohio basketball (I think it was a AA school in a state with four or five A divisions) -- so Kennard wasn't getting a chance to consistently play against the top end kids in Ohio.

Further, I'm not suggesting Kennard won't adjust over time. The kid obviously has talent and has exposure to playing against higher-end players through AAU. But, there's a pretty big difference between AAU and structured collegiate games. I think it's pretty obvious that Kennard is having a lot more difficulties adjusting to college than -- for example -- someone like Derek Thornton who played a national schedule at Findlay.

 

[skysdad]

I love Marshall Plumlee and am grateful he came to Duke. I'm happt he took a red shirt and is with us for a 5th year. duke won't be the same without Marshall Plumlee and he has gave more than he received. OFC

 

[dukehokie]

I think it's pretty obvious that Kennard is having a lot more difficulties adjusting to college than -- for example -- someone like Derek Thornton who played a national schedule at Findlay.

While I don't totally disagree, aah, I think his difficulties would look less glaring if a.) he had a few more threes fall and b.) if he wasn't a victim of the "he's a great shooter and he's lights out in practice". His other skills and intangibles have looked on par with most college players regardless of class. His rep as a shooter/scorer makes it look as though he's not playing well at all.

Is he fulfilling his role? No not yet, but he is fulfilling a role and he's being rewarded for it with time regardless of his main skill abandoning him. That's what's been most impressive to me.

 

[skysdad]

What happened to Marshall, Marshall, Marshall ? OFC

 

[Dattier]

I think it's pretty obvious that Kennard is having a lot more difficulties adjusting to college than -- for example -- someone like Derek Thornton who played a national schedule at Findlay.

His shot isn't falling and has trouble staying in front of quick opponents on the dribble. I don't know that those represent adjustment difficulties. The shot might be a product of nerves or it could be just some inexplicable slump most shooters go through. As a freshman, he may just lack experience on the defensive end. He's valuable enough to play big minutes at crunch time even w/ those current issues.

 

[Dukesince90]

His shot isn't falling and has trouble staying in front of quick opponents on the dribble. I don't know that those represent adjustment difficulties. The shot might be a product of nerves or it could be just some inexplicable slump most shooters go through. As a freshman, he may just lack experience on the defensive end. He's valuable enough to play big minutes at crunch time even w/ those current issues.

I don't think its nerves. The kid plays with a lot of confidence to be in a shooting slump. He didn't hesitate a bit yesterday on taking big shots after big shots. Everybody's high on Grayson, but don't over look this kid. He plays so smart!

 

[pisgah101]

The level of ball he played means jack when it come to competition.. AA doesn't mean they can compete with the big boys. Here we have four divisions and my high school has been AA and AAA. and AA is insistently better athletics