Masks......the Gov't overreach of 1918......
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And here we are 100 years later and people are still too ignorant to wear masks in public during a pandemic.
And masks are just as useless today as they were 100 years ago. 650000 Americans died (way more than even covid at this point) what did masks do exactly?
Do you think it helped matters that the director of the WHO, the director of the CDC, Dr. Fauci, and the Surgeon General all advised against it just a few months ago? A few months ago is still "100 years later", no? And even though they've all mysteriously reversed course recently, it now seems that those notorious MAGA hat wearing science deniers at the health ministry for that 3rd world dump known as the Netherlands also recommended against mandating masks and questioned their effectiveness, joining those science skeptic philistines from Scandinavian health departments in their own assessments.
Oh, well- the more virus fans rant about masks, the less they focus on lockdowns.
Masks were a very good argument a month+ ago...its a bit tougher now.
Miami and LA in the US had two of the largest outbreaks, with two of the longest mask mandates in the US.
Singapore has the highest compliance of mask wearing and now looking into a lockdown. Japan, also very compliant, has a sharp increases in cases (likely exceeding the amount of testing increases). Both situations are worth watching.
Paper over cloth though people - I can say that pretty confidently.
Miami and LA in the US had two of the largest outbreaks, with two of the longest mask mandates in the US.
Singapore has the highest compliance of mask wearing and now looking into a lockdown. Japan, also very compliant, has a sharp increases in cases (likely exceeding the amount of testing increases). Both situations are worth watching.
Paper over cloth though people - I can say that pretty confidently.
If your mask works... why are you worried about anyone else?
If masks work, why are they letting prisoners out of jail?
If masks work, why does Covid even exist?
If masks work, why isnt everyone in Sweden dead?
They kept those numbers from being larger than they are/were.
If your mask works... why are you worried about anyone else? Classic military mentality. "Three is two, two is one, one is none." Since you have no idea who you're going to come in contact with, why not just wear them?
If masks work, why are they letting prisoners out of jail? Because masks only do so much....hence the social distancing, etc.
If masks work, why does Covid even exist? What?
If masks work, why isnt everyone in Sweden dead? Sweden is the only country to basically do nothing. They are the control group. Coincidentally their death rate is a lot higher than the other countries right around it. And even though they didn't shut down, their economy still was crushed. Now, certainly a lot of their economy depends on the surrounding countries.......but it's not like the US doesn't depend on other countries as well.
My entire reason to post this article is to recognize the similarities. Politics, people worried about wearing masks, people going crazy over the illness, people worried about losing freedoms, etc..........
Incorrect about Sweden in terms of masks. While Sweden's lockdown policy, or lack thereof, was unique in Scandinavia (though Denmark and Norway re-opened much faster than most of the rest of Europe), the lack of a mask mandate is common to all Scandinavia. The death rate of Sweden is higher than other Scandinavian nations, by the way, but lower than other countries that are also in Europe, but masks have little to do with any comparison between Sweden and Denmark or Sweden and Norway.
Wrong.
Sweden is 8th deaths/million population, we're 10th. Belgium is 2nd, Spain 5th, Italy 7th, France 11th.
Btw, isnt socialized medicine supposed to better that our system?
But you can’t say whether more would died without masks.
Hell, if there’s a one percent chance a mask will help, I’ll wear the damn thing and not whine!
And the gruesome scorekeeper ain’t done in any of those counties.
Is socialized medicine in Germany better, with one-third our rate of death by infection, or worse with Britain’s death rate higher than our own?
Who knows.
Im eating sauerkraut at every opportunity, and that ain’t a joke!
It's laughable people cherry pick oh look at Sweden compared to Netherlands, UK or France.
Sweden is basically North Dakota.
23 people/km vs 521 pops.km in Netherlands.
Damn they already social distanced.
Sweden is basically North Dakota.
23 people/km vs 521 pops.km in Netherlands.
Damn they already social distanced.
If you think Sweden is like North Dakota, then it's safe to say that you have never been to Stockholm, which has a metro area by itself about three times the population of the entire state of North Dakota. Sweden is a fairly large country, for Europe, and has a lot of open space up north. There are also areas in Sweden, not just Stockholm, that are densely populated.
As for "they already social distanced", that's my favorite Coronacult myth- I've read it about a thousand times, including just now, and it's ********. Swedes are people just like any other people, not a bunch of robots.
Face mask use could result in a large reduction in risk of infection (n=2647; aOR 0·15, 95% CI 0·07 to 0·34, RD −14·3%, −15·9 to −10·7; low certainty), with stronger associations with N95 or similar respirators compared with disposable surgical masks or similar (eg, reusable 12–16-layer cotton masks; pinteraction=0·090; posterior probability >95%, low certainty).
The primary limitation of our study is that all studies were non-randomised, not always fully adjusted, and might suffer from recall and measurement bias (eg, direct contact in some studies might not be measuring near distance).
If this were about a drug, it’d be heavily scrutinized. I can think of one in particular. There are similar studies on masks only, that show no impact vs influenza like illnesses.
I also do not see any counter controls to monitor social distancing, face shields, goggles etc in their respective settings - as this study covers all.
Sounds wonderful. Heavily masked places are having large outbreaks. It easy to say “but think how bad it would’ve been!” - but that’s not science.
I’ll continue to wear one...it ain’t magic and doesn’t come close to social distancing.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
“In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks“
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Masks might work but face coverings sure as hell don't.
Nevermind the actual science behind it which shows exactly why they don't work. Like putting up a chain link fence expecting it to keep out mosquitoes.
Let's also not mention the undeniable fact that masks had no recognizable impact in any area where they were required.
Just think about the logic and say it out loud: the face covering stops the germs from getting out. But won't stop them from getting in. The same piece of cloth. As if it's a one way mirror.
Does anyone realize the level of mental gymnastics required to believe that?I can't believe so many people swallowed that bait.
Nevermind the actual science behind it which shows exactly why they don't work. Like putting up a chain link fence expecting it to keep out mosquitoes.
Let's also not mention the undeniable fact that masks had no recognizable impact in any area where they were required.
Just think about the logic and say it out loud: the face covering stops the germs from getting out. But won't stop them from getting in. The same piece of cloth. As if it's a one way mirror.
Does anyone realize the level of mental gymnastics required to believe that?I can't believe so many people swallowed that bait.
What? Does sauerkraut reduce the risk of catching covid? Can’t stand it but I’m in. Wait how about kimchi?
but if both people wear a mask and keep germs inside then nobody gets sick
We wish.
If masks held the key, every country would’ve tried to throw trillions at some space age technology on masks. We are still running around with paper, scarfs, cloth, bandannas over our faces and even then, high mask compliant countries and cities have had some of the largest recent outbreaks. Notice how they don’t even recommend one type of mask over another? Throw anything in front and it will slow the spread...doesn’t seem scientific to me.
Guess I’m stubborn - but hard to throw out 70 years of studies showing little to no impact all the way up until February 2020.
Still - wear one since it’s now the rule...but don’t act/behave as if it will protect from infection.
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Masks don’t work. It’s a fraud.
but the stupidity has already set root. Americans are stupid
but the stupidity has already set root. Americans are stupid
Yes because by their explanation...the germs can't go out. But if only one person wears it....it's no good. Because the germs can still come in.
That isn't at all how cloth works. In and out is no different.
we don’t know **** about this “virus”
Just listen to stupid fauci and wear the mask, bigot
Why is it that the majority of people that do not wear a mask look like they need to wear a mask more than anyone else? Guy at Speedway this morning at about 8:30am buying a 6 pack of Bud Light...fairly certain he hadn't showed since Back to the Future hit the theatres in 1985...no mask....lovely.
Just heard the greatest "that's what she said" on Man vs. Food of all shows...classic- completely off subject but had to share.
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Man, this thread is full of some dumbbbbb people.
So there's still a 35% chance that a mask won't do anything. Sounds totally fool proof lol
The same way I know that when surgical teams wear masks it save the lives of surgical patients by greatly reducing the amount of exhaled germs and bacteria onto those patients.
Science!
and a 100% chance that not wearing results in no protection.