Mass shooting casualties and Mormon church on fire in Michigan

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KT34

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Shooting in Grand Blanc, Michigan at Mormon church. Church set on fire. People trapped in church.
 

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They're moving people back as a possible bomb was found in a truck. This is a large building. Video looks like 80 % or more of the roof is gone or on fire.
 

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A truck crashed into the chapel wall. Shooter got out and begin firing. 2 of the victims are reported to be children. They found an apparent ied in the truck.
 

Glenn's Take

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Why am I seeing a building burning like Waco and they are calling it a shooting? Bullets didn't set that on fire.
 

KenTucker

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A truck crashed into the chapel wall. Shooter got out and begin firing. 2 of the victims are reported to be children. They found an apparent ied in the truck.
Apparently the shooter set the fire after his shooting spree.
 

Penis Christ

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Looks like the mass shooter was a MAGA Christian Nationalist, like most of the people who post on here. Will Trump label MAGA a terrorist organization?
 

KenTucker

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Looks like the mass shooter was a MAGA Christian Nationalist, like most of the people who post on here. Will Trump label MAGA a terrorist organization?
Why would a Christian Nationalist attack a Mormon church full of people? Revenge for the shooting of that podcaster by a Mormon?
 

Vismund

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We've gotta stop racing to figure out which "team" these guys are on and start working on other solutions. This guy and the Southport NC shooter were prior military and the Southport guy reportedly showed clear signs of mental illness (alleging Kelly Pickler was poisoning him with tainted whiskey).

We've got to start valuing life again, people don't seem to care about killing anyone for any reason anymore. Our obsession with violence grows and we spend all of our time wondering about political motives when there clearly is one defining characteristic of all of these killers, they are mentally and emotionally unstable.
 

Penis Christ

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We've gotta stop racing to figure out which "team" these guys are on and start working on other solutions. This guy and the Southport NC shooter were prior military and the Southport guy reportedly showed clear signs of mental illness (alleging Kelly Pickler was poisoning him with tainted whiskey).

We've got to start valuing life again, people don't seem to care about killing anyone for any reason anymore. Our obsession with violence grows and we spend all of our time wondering about political motives when there clearly is one defining characteristic of all of these killers, they are mentally and emotionally unstable.

Agreed. It would be nice if there was an individual, someone who could be considered sort of the head of our government, elected by the people, that could rise above, try to turn the temperature down, call out how political violence on both sides is wrong, and work to come up with genuine solutions for solving gun and political violence in this country.

Wouldn't that be swell? But it's just a wild dream, I know.
 

Johnnie Africa

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Agreed. It would be nice if there was an individual, someone who could be considered sort of the head of our government, elected by the people, that could rise above, try to turn the temperature down, call out how political violence on both sides is wrong, and work to come up with genuine solutions for solving gun and political violence in this country.

Wouldn't that be swell? But it's just a wild dream, I know.

Your post is dumb because we’ve been suffering through these god awful shootings since 1999 with Columbine. Your posts illustrate you’re a democrat - we’ve had mass shootings under 12 years of Obama and Biden and whoever else democratic presidents as well. I’m sure you didn’t think their rhetoric was bad or harmful so your post falls flat and doesn’t seem genuine or productive.
 

Penis Christ

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Your post is dumb because we’ve been suffering through these god awful shootings since 1999 with Columbine. Your posts illustrate you’re a democrat - we’ve had mass shootings under 12 years of Obama and Biden and whoever else democratic presidents as well. I’m sure you didn’t think their rhetoric was bad or harmful so your post falls flat and doesn’t seem genuine or productive.

"Radical left political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives."

"We have radical left lunatics out there and we just have to beat the hell out of them."

"The radicals on the left are the problem, and they're vicious and they're horrible and they're politically savvy... We have a radical left group of lunatics out there, just absolute lunatics, and we're going to get that problem solved."


Yeah dude, I remember Obama talking just like that. :confused:
 

mash_24

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"Radical left political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives."

"We have radical left lunatics out there and we just have to beat the hell out of them."

"The radicals on the left are the problem, and they're vicious and they're horrible and they're politically savvy... We have a radical left group of lunatics out there, just absolute lunatics, and we're going to get that problem solved."


Yeah dude, I remember Obama talking just like that. :confused:
Here’s Joe Biden at a Howard University commencement speech.
 

Penis Christ

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So you're not against white supremacists? Got it.

And GD you all and your whataboutisms. God forbid you ever hold Trump's feet to the fire for saying some truly depraved, insane ****.

Trump had a chance to dial down the temperature and he chose to ramp it up. It is what it is (a disgrace).
 

mash_24

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So you're not against white supremacists? Got it.

And GD you all and your whataboutisms. God forbid you ever hold Trump's feet to the fire for saying some truly depraved, insane ****.

Trump had a chance to dial down the temperature and he chose to ramp it up. It is what it is (a disgrace).
He said it’s Americas most dangerous domestic terrorist threat. It’s far from it. And lol at Trump having to dial back anything after being shot at by a nutjob, who would have probably thought penis Christ was a hilarious user name. And hauled into multiple courts by the former administration.
 

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Statistics from multiple sources confirm that the number of mass shootings in the United States increased significantly during Donald Trump's presidency, particularly toward the end of his term
. This rise occurred alongside a broader surge in gun violence, with gun homicides increasing by 34% between 2016 and 2020.
Key statistics and events during the Trump administration (2017–2021)
  • Significant increase in mass shootings: Data from the Gun Violence Archive (GVA) shows that mass shootings surged during this period. Mass shootings increased significantly after May 2020, doubling in July 2020 compared to the year prior.
  • Highest number of mass killings: the U.S. experienced more mass killings in 2019 than in any previous year on record.
  • Deadliest mass shootings: Several of the deadliest mass shootings in modern American history took place during Trump's presidency, including:
    • 2017 Las Vegas shooting: 58 people were killed at a music festival.
    • 2017 Sutherland Springs church shooting: 25 people were killed in a Texas church.
    • 2018 Parkland school shooting: 17 people were killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
    • 2019 El Paso Walmart shooting: 22 people were killed in a Texas store.
 
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So you're not against white supremacists? Got it.

And GD you all and your whataboutisms. God forbid you ever hold Trump's feet to the fire for saying some truly depraved, insane ****.

Trump had a chance to dial down the temperature and he chose to ramp it up. It is what it is (a disgrace).
So which account are you a sock for? I have a hard time keeping up.
 
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Johnnie Africa

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"Radical left political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives."

"We have radical left lunatics out there and we just have to beat the hell out of them."

"The radicals on the left are the problem, and they're vicious and they're horrible and they're politically savvy... We have a radical left group of lunatics out there, just absolute lunatics, and we're going to get that problem solved."


Yeah dude, I remember Obama talking just like that. :confused:

A presidents words isn’t the reason we’ve had mass shooting for 26 years, on any side. It’s not republicans fault. It’s not democrats fault. You’re just involved in stupid identity politics. It’s the major force causing nothing to be done.
 

Johnnie Africa

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Just another "middle of the road" guy who would never call out a conservative/right winger for something similar as this. Yawn. Keep twiddling your thumbs while we further slip into some Christian Nationalist jizzed-covered autocractic fantasy world.

If you think politically-motivated violence in this country isn't on the rise, and you think the leader of the country's words don't matter, there's not much more for you to add. Now scurry along.

I’ve now been called a leftist AND a conservative in the last two days 😂 You political morons are so turned and washed by your algorithms you literally can’t comprehend a mildly different viewpoint. Your name is also penis Christ so I’m going to go ahead and stop talking to you 😂
 
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