Medical marijuana legalized in Pennsylvania

[jwheat]

"HARRISBURG — Gov. Tom Wolf on Sunday signed Pennsylvania’s medical marijuana bill into law, drawing cheers and applause from advocates, many of them parents with children, who filled the Capitol rotunda."

The fight goes on!!

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[domino79]

Did you know that to puff the magic dragon meant to get high??

 

[MegaBlue05]

Good step. But many more to take.

Let's just go recreational and get this charade over with. Prohibition never works. Marijuana has been proven to not be nearly as dangerous as all that dumbass government propaganda suggested and is much safer than the booze a lot of us swill regularly. Hell, this state - where it's not legal to buy alcohol in all 120 counties - celebrates bourbon like it's a national treasure. We could do the same thing with our dope.

Hopefully in my lifetime I'll see it, but I live in the GD holy land of Kentucky so we'll be somewhere in the 45-50 range in terms of states making this happen.

 

[DSmith21]

I am perfectly fine with medical marijuana for patients of certain illnesses. I think that it can really be a benefit. However, I am against legalization of it for recreational use. There are plenty of health downsides to pot. Plus do we really want a bunch of people driving and working while high? Develop an instant test to determine if a person is currently high (like a breathalyzer) and I might change my view.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana

 

[UKserialkiller]

I am perfectly fine with medical marijuana for patients of certain illnesses. I think that it can really be a benefit. However, I am against legalization of it for recreational use. There are plenty of health downsides to pot. Plus do we really want a bunch of people driving and working while high? Develop an instant test to determine if a person is currently high (like a breathalyzer) and I might change my view.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana

That's crazy talk. Alcohol is more dangerous than weed and it ain't even close.

If alcohol can be legally recreational, then so can weed.

Matter of fact, I'm making a half ounce of oatmeal cookies made out of weed butter tonight.

 

[DSmith21]

That's crazy talk. Alcohol is more dangerous than weed and it ain't even close.

If alcohol can be legally recreational, then so can weed.

Matter of fact, I'm making a half ounce of oatmeal cookies made out of weed butter tonight.

I didn't mention alcohol or compare it to pot. Just saying that having a bunch of people driving or working while high is not a good idea.

 

[mashburned]

I am perfectly fine with medical marijuana for patients of certain illnesses. I think that it can really be a benefit. However, I am against legalization of it for recreational use. There are plenty of health downsides to pot. Plus do we really want a bunch of people driving and working while high? Develop an instant test to determine if a person is currently high (like a breathalyzer) and I might change my view.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana

Lolllllll

Dude

LMAO

dude

Get mf'n real.

 

[DSmith21]

^ Yeah, Yeah, all the stoners want it legalized and see no downside. I get it. As an employer, I don't want my people working around heavy equipment while high. Is that so hard to understand?

 

[UKserialkiller]

I didn't mention alcohol or compare it to pot. Just saying that having a bunch of people driving or working while high is not a good idea.

I think we actually need more people driving and working high, imo.

 

[DSmith21]

I think we actually need more people driving and working high, imo.

So you are pro-DUI (most state laws encompass drugs and alcohol). That is an unusual position.

 

[UKserialkiller]

So you are pro-DUI (most state laws encompass drugs and alcohol). That is an unusual position.

Yeah, the meetings are usually small.

 

[DaBossIsBack]

^ Yeah, Yeah, all the stoners want it legalized and see no downside. I get it. As an employer, I don't want my people working around heavy equipment while high. Is that so hard to understand?

Do you want them working around heavy equipment drunk? Or driving to work drunk?

 

[argubs2]

What is it about personal liberty and freedom of choice that frightens you, DSmith?

 

[Glenn's Take]

^ Yeah, Yeah, all the stoners want it legalized and see no downside. I get it. As an employer, I don't want my people working around heavy equipment while high. Is that so hard to understand?

I've got news for you. Anyone that would show up for work high if it was legal already is. Making it legal wouldn't cause 1 more person to show up for work high.

 

[mashburned]

If you're worried about someone paying attention and acting responsibly around machinery then a stoner would be perfect for the job, tbh.

 

[DSmith21]

Do you want them working around heavy equipment drunk? Or driving to work drunk?

No I don't. There are instant tests for alcohol and we have fired several employees for coming to work drunk. The best we have for pot is a blood/piss test that just says that they have smoked pot within 4-10 days (even that varies depending on how often you use). That doesn't help in the case of a workplace injury or a fatal accident on the road. We need to know if someone was impaired at the time of an accident. Come up with an instant test and I will support recreational pot use.

 

[mashburned]

Test for WHAT? Hunger levels?

 

[UKserialkiller]

Once it's legal, marijuana will start taking our jobs and gay marrying each other. I know 3 marijuanas that are getting welfare money right now!

Just a shame what this world is coming to.

 

[MegaBlue05]

I am perfectly fine with medical marijuana for patients of certain illnesses. I think that it can really be a benefit. However, I am against legalization of it for recreational use. There are plenty of health downsides to pot. Plus do we really want a bunch of people driving and working while high? Develop an instant test to determine if a person is currently high (like a breathalyzer) and I might change my view.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana

I don't get it. It should be my choice as an adult to put whatever I want into my body, and if those choices lead to the harming of others, I should be punished accordingly. There's "health downsides" to red meat, excessive consumption of grains and processed foods, too. Should these things be illegal?

Booze is already legal for recreational use, and illegal to use while driving and likely against most company handbooks to come to work shitfaced. I would assume the same would hold true with pot?

As for driving, I don't condone driving under the influence of marijuana, but the only thing it ever caused me to do was drive the speed limit and obey ALL traffic laws (complete stops, turn signals, etc.) because I didn't want the 5.0 to pull me over smell the inside of the car.

Seems like if I can legally use a product that's proven time and time again to be more dangerous (liquor) then I should be able to use one that is much, much milder in terms of physical impairment.

 

[funKYcat75]

It should be my choice as an adult to put whatever I want into my body, and if those choices lead to the harming of others, I should be punished accordingly.

That seems like a strange way of looking at things.

 

[DSmith21]

What about the glucomia? You want your employees operating heavy equipment when they're blind from the glucomia, or would you rather let them smoke a little weed and see betters?

People who are blind from "glucomia" are prolly just screwed whatever that is. They should just call Eric Conn to get on disability. Glaucoma is another matter and there are several treatment options. Pot could work well for them at home.

 

[DSmith21]

Do tell.

http://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/glaucoma-3-treatment.htm

 

[-LEK-]

http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2015/07/14/374914.htm

Pot breathalyzer, soon?

 

[funKYcat75]

I went into glucomia once when I was a young feller. Never ate that paste at school again.

 

[P.PattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor]

However, I am against legalization of alcohol for recreational use. There are plenty of health downsides to alcohol. Plus do we really want a bunch of people driving and working while drunk? Develop an instant test to determine if a person is currently drunk (like a breathalyzer) and I might change my view.

^ Yeah, Yeah, all the alcoholics want it legalized and see no downside. I get it. As an employer, I don't want my people working around heavy equipment while drunk. Is that so hard to understand?

 

[LineSkiCat14]

I am perfectly fine with medical marijuana for patients of certain illnesses. I think that it can really be a benefit. However, I am against legalization of it for recreational use. There are plenty of health downsides to pot. Plus do we really want a bunch of people driving and working while high? Develop an instant test to determine if a person is currently high (like a breathalyzer) and I might change my view.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana

Let 'em.. they'll eff up soon enough. More job opportunities for the rest of us.

Personally, I'm fine with it. I used to smoke daily, and I realized after a while it just wasn't for me anymore, at least not on a regular basis. Once in a while is fun, just have to know my limits so I don't sit on the couch spazzing out, playing with my hands and wondering if everyone else notices if I'm playing with my hands..

It's not dangerous, inherently. "No one has ever died from smoking weed..". But if anyone here thinks it's this perfectly harmless vice, you're wrong. As sure as ****, the second this stuff started becoming legal, and multi-year studies were launched, there's evidence coming out to show it isn't the harmless drug everyone thought it was.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Also, the same rules should apply for weed-smoking as drinking. Not on the job, no smoking and driving, etc. Most would agree with that, I'm sure..

Because quite frankly, I'm 10x a better driver drunk than I am high.. and if those burnouts can drive around high, then me and my alchy friends better be able to also..

 

[Big_Blue79]

I hope DSmith is also crusading against things like antihistamines, sudafed, and other easy to obtain, and fully legal, drugs. Not to mention opiods and illegal drugs. Citing to a government website on the "dangers" of marijuana is ridiculous. Same feds that just recently admitted that maybe pot isn't as bad as heroine. I fully support the development of an easy, quick test to see if someone is legally impaired, but let's not act like there are not risks with a whole host of legal, easy to obtain substances. And let's not act like it's suddenly going to be legal to drive while high, or operate heavy machinery while high. Besides, if the NRA has taught us one thing, it's that laws don't stop people.

 

[UKserialkiller]

Let 'em.. they'll eff up soon enough. More job opportunities for the rest of us.

Not when the CDC is pushing to end marijuana drug testing. Just now advising doctors to quit doing it.

http://www.painnewsnetwork.org/stories/2016/3/18/45g7l80k0vufyjyhb06z2ttgxdj3vk



So good luck trying to catch us potheads. We are the face of your company. imp:

 

[LineSkiCat14]

And let's not act like it's suddenly going to be legal to drive while high, or operate heavy machinery while high.

Agreed.. but lets not pretend there aren't a bunch of pretentious state school deadbeats who think weed makes them do everything better, and should never NOT be allowed to smoke whenever they damn well please..

The real problem are the blowhard pro-marijuana people, not the plant it self. It's the only conversation they know how to have... over, and over.. and over again.

Dan Tosh can sum it up perfectly in a matter of seconds.. let's take a look..

 

[crazyqx83_rivals88013]

^ Yeah, Yeah, all the stoners want it legalized and see no downside. I get it. As an employer, I don't want my people working around heavy equipment while high. Is that so hard to understand?

Do they work while drunk?

 

[LineSkiCat14]

I mean, not to get into a huge debate.. but I don't mean potheads getting caught and testing. They don't breathalyse me when I have a "lunch meeting" (air quotes), they shouldn't drug test them either.

But being high on the job? Yeah I've been around enough pot heads.. The majority of them WILL eff up eventually, drug test or not.

Personally, let all the drugs in. I need to make more money anyways, and stepping over all these burnouts wouldn't bother me one iota. Life is about letting others sabotage themselves and myself benefiting from it.. That's not just me right?

 

[UKserialkiller]

The real problem are the blowhard pro-marijuana people, not the plant it self. It's the only conversation they know how to have... over, and over.. and over again.

Man, come'on Lineski. I don't know anyone who smokes weed and acts like the 20 yr old "legalize it" guy. None.

By the time most people who smoke pot hit my age, we're not talking about the 420 Freedom Weed Train. It becomes a part of your everyday routine life like jerking off and eating protein shakes.

 

[crazyqx83_rivals88013]

No I don't. There are instant tests for alcohol and we have fired several employees for coming to work drunk. The best we have for pot is a blood/piss test that just says that they have smoked pot within 4-10 days (even that varies depending on how often you use). That doesn't help in the case of a workplace injury or a fatal accident on the road. We need to know if someone was impaired at the time of an accident. Come up with an instant test and I will support recreational pot use.

So what you're saying is thst you don't want people breaking the the law by driving to work high if marijuana were to be legalized....... You're totally safe then because nobody breaks the law right now when it comes to marijuana use......................................................

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Well, I haven't hit 30 yet.. Still a lot of that type in my age group. I'm also a millennial so we have that soon-to-be historically awful generation of entitled POS' to deal with.

It very well could be the fact that Weed being illegal, is what makes people so passionate about it. Chicken or the egg thing.

I just think the whole wonderdrug was a blown a bit out or proportion. For the last few years, my age group billed it as this zero side-effect plant that does nothing but good. In some ways, sure. but not quite.

 

[UKserialkiller]

Well, I haven't hit 30 yet.. Still a lot of that type in my age group. I'm also a millennial so we have that soon-to-be historically awful generation of entitled POS' to deal with.

It very well could be the fact that Weed being illegal, is what makes people so passionate about it. Chicken or the egg thing.

I just think the whole wonderdrug was a blown a bit out or proportion. For the last few years, my age group billed it as this zero side-effect plant that does nothing but good. In some ways, sure. but not quite.

You effing millennials ruin everything.

Bet ya'll take the fun out of meth too. c***suckers..

 

[LineSkiCat14]

I sincerely hate my generation.. almost everything about it.

The only thing my generation has going for it, is that I'd rather have sex with a millennial than a baby-boomer.. and I swear to God, I'm even having second thoughts on that.

 

[UKserialkiller]

I sincerely hate my generation.. almost everything about it.

The only thing my generation has going for it, is that I'd rather have sex with a millennial than a baby-boomer.. and I swear to God, I'm even having second thoughts on that.

Please don't tell me that you have a tightly shaved beard and wear a suit coat and tie with shorts and sandals. Please Lineski, please.

 

[MegaBlue05]

That seems like a strange way of looking at things.

Haha.

I should've said substances. You probably thought cawks.





I get DSmith's point about "how high are you now" tests, but those would be impossible to accurately gauge. For example, if Willy smoked 5 grams a day for 30 years and I only smoked 4 joints a year, I'm going to be a lot higher than Willy if we each smoked a bowl. So, how would a test be able to tell who was higher between us?

Personally, I'm a former daily pot smoker (96-04) who might enjoy the occasional puff a couple times a year, if that. If it were legal, I would smoke regularly and never touch a drop of that man-made piss water they call booze ever again. No pukes. No whiskey ***** (probably some Taco Bell *****). No hangover. No saying/doing things I'll regret the next day or forever.

I'm the tail end of Gen-Y and most of my peers, tokers and non-tokers alike, view marijuana as a harmless drug that shouldn't be criminilized by the government the same as physically addictive drugs like cocaine and meth. Hell, even my somewhat conservative baby-boomer parents think pot should be legal for adult consumption

Lastly, I've worked with several people who out of their damn gourds on painkillers/benzos they were prescribed, which is apparently OK because they came from the doctor!!!

It just seems silly to treat a plant like a dangerous drug while glorifying an actual dangerous drug (booze) in the form of billion dollar ad campaigns. Tax it. Regulate it just like booze (no driving, must bee a certain age to purchase, etc.) and I see no problems.

 

[UKserialkiller]

For example, if Willy smoked 5 grams a day for 30 years and I only smoked 4 joints a year, I'm going to be a lot higher than Willy if we each smoked a bowl. So, how would a test be able to tell who was higher between us?
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Leave me out of this ****. My weed was grown by a black gay homo satanist.