Michigan's insane satellite camp June schedule
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Truly insane, and not what the NCAA was looking for, IMO.
But who pays for all this travel? (Hint to mitch, FOOTBALL, that is THE money cow. Glad to see he finally got a clue, now we need to fund the relatively inexpensive COA adjustment).
Probably mandatory if we want to really compete in the SEC, great start, a little ways to go.
But who pays for all this travel? (Hint to mitch, FOOTBALL, that is THE money cow. Glad to see he finally got a clue, now we need to fund the relatively inexpensive COA adjustment).
Probably mandatory if we want to really compete in the SEC, great start, a little ways to go.
We can't afford to get out of Ohio, we are the nearest SEC school and a lot of players want to play in the SEC now. Lots of talent in Ohio, OSU can't take them all and UK can compete with the other BIG schools, even get a few that OSU ends up wanting, I think a lot of their fans already regret us getting Conrad and where do you think a lot of our recent four stars and starters came from? Even our home state is helping out a lot now, not even ONE four star in the state in 2010 and now a FIVE star in three consecutive years, plus some other very good talent, even if it is underrated in a lot of cases.
I almost never criticize a post. For you I will make an exception. How could you not realize how stupid that would be?
Why live in one state ? Look at the roster of other SEC schools. There's your exception
What was your name on here before you were banned and came back under this name?
I don't see how it can be considered beneficial to do THAT many. How could you possibly maintain and build upon the relationships you have with all of the players you're recruiting if you're on the road that much? You can't even take 39 players in a class so you're setting up more camps than you have scholarships to give. You might only take 39 players in your next two classes. Harbaugh has lost his damn mind no wonder the 49ers wanted him gone. He was having sleepovers with Kaepernick and had 39 mandatory staff camping trips in the offseason
We do really well in Ohio, this would be a terrible thing to do.
Now you see why this stuff should have been banned. That is ridiculous to try and run that many camps. I think they should have x number of camps and nothing beyond what x number ends up being allowed. Maybe have conference camps where all members of the conference are represented if they choose to attend and only be allowed to do those besides the normal camps at the school. Hopefully schools that try and do this many camps have it backfire in their faces.
More than likely this will backfire on them. Especially if recruits see how many camps they have going on. The recruits will see it as not focusing on them the athlete but more about how the university wants to profit from their talents. Disgusting to say the least, but I am not surprised.
No, you would have to include Georgia, we have had some outstanding players from the peach state, Woodyard, Kelly, Dupree, Boom etc.
Doubtful. Eminem has said that people are going to buy more albums for him being in the news.....whether the news is good or bad. These days, Michigan is all over the news. Harbaugh's far exceeded expectations last yr on the field. And their recruiting is booming. They are white hot right now.
A few years ago I was bumfuzzled as to why UK wasn't recruiting Ohio. Being the closest SEC school it should have been a priority. Now we are making ground there and you want OUT?:chairshot::thumbsdown::uzi:
It's all about name exposure...The more kids that see the MICHIGAN brand, the more likely they will consider them. I think it's a brilliant move on Harbaugh's part. Soon every big school with the budget will be doing it.
I think you guys have missed the big picture about Ohio, sure they are some great players up there no doubt. Recruit it that's fine and get the best we can but the southeast is a big damn place with the best talent, as much an emphasis is put on Ohio it should be done across the southeast with as much enthusiasm. Pick it apart all you want I'm fine with it just remember who consistently wins and dominates bowl games against the small 10 and where the majority of players on upper teir SEC teams come from that's all I'm saying, if you want to change the program inside out I'm in Texas Louisiana Bama Georgia Florida Carolinas and Ky Tennessee of course but if you looking at changing perception of a program this is where I would start. Again just my opinion, you Ohio guys have fun with this and I'm out on the subject
It's called the law of diminishing return. There is a point that you reach where you've done so many camps that the benefit of every extra camp becomes less while the costs associated with hosting those camps increases.
Harbaugh will be forfeiting a ton of time that could be spent making phone calls, writing letters, hosting unofficial visits on campus, ect. Harbaugh is essentially putting recruiting on hold for an entire month. Branding is important but building relationships will be the difference in who signs that 4 or 5 star player. Budget or no budget you won't see a lot of coaches do what Harbaugh is doing because the understand diminishing returns
Oh...I agree that I think they will back off after the initial big splash, but to start with UM wants to be the one to get their name out. And far as Harbaugh's time, I don't see the camps as taking up much of his time. UM will hire a whole staff of personnel to run these for them. They'll probably have 1 Coaching Staff person at each one and if they like someone they'll get the invite to the on campus camp. That's where Harbaugh will see them. I don't doubt he'll make some rounds initially, but it won't change his time or process much.
Your statement proves how little you understand recruiting and the dynamics of recruiting the south. Texas and Louisiana have historically been the hardest states that a coach could possibly try to recruit at UK. The guys raised in Louisiana rarely move far from home. They are extremely close to their mother and will not come this far for college. Texas kids are raised on Big 12 football and don't have the same love for the SEC that you find in other parts of the country. You have Texas, TAMU, Baylor, Texas Tech, Houston, TCU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., ect that are going to get all of those players before we get a sniff. Alabama doesn't have quite as much talent in it as you might believe. Alabama and Auburn are getting everything they want in a state that doesn't prodice nearly as much talent as Ohio does. We are essentially getting the best players in Ohio that are just short of an OSU offer. That's what Auburn does in Alabama with a few exceptions. We have 3 recruiters assigned Florida, two assigned Georgia, and Eliot recruits Tennessee and the Carolinas
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Close to their mothers ? You're insane with this post and dynamics crap, it's about building a foundation and getting people to sell these recruits, whatever form it may be. That's why you start making a presence now for the future if you want to be a top teir program.
It may sound nuts but ask grumpy I'm sure Georgia has tried recruiting Louisiana. Those kids will not go further than a couple of hours from home for college. We signed one a few years back and he got home sick and transferred back home. We were very close to signing a guy a year or two ago from there with multiple power 5 offers and he stayed home and went to Louisiana tech. I'm not making it up it's part of the culture down there.
Until UK starts winning bigger than our SEC counterparts we won't be able to go into their backyard and steal away recruits that can play at the SEC level on a consistent basis because they can just go to the school they grew up rooting for. We aren't signing kids from Mississippi with Ole Miss or Mississippi state offers unless we are better than both of those schools. Ohio has the 5th most players in the NFL above most of the states you mentioned and we are getting guys ranked much higher in that state than the ones we would get on average in any of the state's you mentioned. We will only be able to get a few players from the south each year unless we just want to settle for all of the SEC's leftovers. How are we supposed to climb the SEC taking their leftovers?
Well, I agree with 87. An interesting FACT is that through Joker's reign we never signed a four star recruit (some underrated ones turned out to be even better, see Cobb and Trevanthan) from an SEC state with a legit home state offer. The SEC is a big draw now, but the best players from the SEC have the opportunity to stay home and play in the SEC in most cases, and they aren't going to travel north to play for a (until we get going, and that is happening) down and out program. Brooks and Joker were trying to convince recruits from the south (everywhere really) that UK wasn't just a basketball school when all the SEC coaches had pictures of the "recruiting room".
The fact is UK never signed a legit four star from another SEC state this century until Stoops 14 class when we got three, Randolph, Bone, and Boom. But for those three we got FIVE from Ohio that year. Boom (and home state Barker) our highest rated and the ONLY reason we got Boom (was committed to home state Georgia) was the fact Georgia signed TWO RBs rated higher than him (from in state, natch) AND already had a Heisman candidate. That similar to our two best SEC commits on potential were Clemons and Caffey from Georgia that Joker recruited, and the only reason we got them was that home state Georgia didn't recruit them------because they signed the #1 RB recruit in the nation------that also just happened to be from Georgia. Ohil gave us one of two four stars in 15 (the other from Kentucky, is Conrad a keeper?), one from Ohio in 16 (three from Kentucky and one from Georgia) and two of three so far in 17.
Now we will become MUCH more attractive to SEC state recruits WHEN we start winning, but Ohio is too good for us to abandon even then, a lot of our Ohio commits could play for anyone in the nation.
The fact is UK never signed a legit four star from another SEC state this century until Stoops 14 class when we got three, Randolph, Bone, and Boom. But for those three we got FIVE from Ohio that year. Boom (and home state Barker) our highest rated and the ONLY reason we got Boom (was committed to home state Georgia) was the fact Georgia signed TWO RBs rated higher than him (from in state, natch) AND already had a Heisman candidate. That similar to our two best SEC commits on potential were Clemons and Caffey from Georgia that Joker recruited, and the only reason we got them was that home state Georgia didn't recruit them------because they signed the #1 RB recruit in the nation------that also just happened to be from Georgia. Ohil gave us one of two four stars in 15 (the other from Kentucky, is Conrad a keeper?), one from Ohio in 16 (three from Kentucky and one from Georgia) and two of three so far in 17.
Now we will become MUCH more attractive to SEC state recruits WHEN we start winning, but Ohio is too good for us to abandon even then, a lot of our Ohio commits could play for anyone in the nation.