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Mizzou becoming a force in the SEC East?

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Prestonyte said:
Obvious backward historical thinking on my part.
So, no to the East or no to SEC going forward?
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Definitely no to the East (of course).

The SEC going forward? I'd lean no there as well. It's hard for me to see Missouri annually competing for a conference title and surpassing Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, etc.

Could they be competitive for a spot in a 12 team playoff as the 3rd or 4th SEC team? Sure. But even then I hesitate. This is a program that hasn't had a winning record since 2018. They put together a fantastic 2023, but it's going to take another season or two before I buy-in to the hype.

Example A is Tennessee. Look what they did this year after a fantastic 2022.
 
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will110 said:
Definitely no to the East (of course).

The SEC going forward? I'd lean no there as well. It's hard for me to see Missouri annually competing for a conference title and surpassing Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, etc.

Could they be competitive for a spot in a 12 team playoff as the 3rd or 4th SEC team? Sure. But even then I hesitate. This is a program that hasn't had a winning record since 2018. They put together a fantastic 2023, but it's going to take another season or two before I buy-in to the hype.

Example A is Tennessee. Look what they did this year after a fantastic 2022.
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Tend to agree with you. Well aware of how hype after one season of exceeding expectations can lead to disappointment very easily for a number of teams fans.
 
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Drink is proving himself to be a good coach. He got them going in his 4th year there. Maybe Beamer can do the same in his 4th year here next season.
 
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will110 said:
Definitely no to the East (of course).

The SEC going forward? I'd lean no there as well. It's hard for me to see Missouri annually competing for a conference title and surpassing Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, etc.

Could they be competitive for a spot in a 12 team playoff as the 3rd or 4th SEC team? Sure. But even then I hesitate. This is a program that hasn't had a winning record since 2018. They put together a fantastic 2023, but it's going to take another season or two before I buy-in to the hype.

Example A is Tennessee. Look what they did this year after a fantastic 2022.
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It could happen in a random year or maybe even 2. But the second they become a consistent challenger for the SEC title, some program like Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, or the Texas schools will be looking for a coach to do similar things there. I don't see Mizzou keeping the next Saban, Smart, or Swinney.

I think that's the difference between Mizzou and Tennessee. If (IF) a UT coach ever gets them back to the pinnacle of college football, they will probably spend every last collective dime they have to keep him.
 
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Uscg1984 said:
It could happen in a random year or maybe even 2. But the second they become a consistent challenger for the SEC title, some program like Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, or the Texas schools will be looking for a coach to do similar things there. I don't see Mizzou keeping the next Saban, Smart, or Swinney.

I think that's the difference between Mizzou and Tennessee. If (IF) a UT coach ever gets them back to the pinnacle of college football, they will probably spend every last collective dime they have to keep him.
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Right, I agree completely. Could Missouri or South Carolina or Kentucky put together one great season and compete for a conference title? Sure. Is it likely? Probably not.

Good point on the coach leaving too.
 
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Cackmandu said:
He really has done a good job, and to think he was on the hot seat pre-season,
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When he brought his Appalachian State team to Williams-Brice and beat us, I remember thinking to myself that App. State looked like a "well-coached team". Missouri lucked out finding a "diamond in the rough", I believe.
 
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When he brought his Appalachian State team to Williams-Brice and beat us, I remember thinking to myself that App. State looked like a "well-coached team". Missouri lucked out finding a "diamond in the rough", I believe.
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But, as someone said earlier can Missouri keep him?
 
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will110 said:
Right, I agree completely. Could Missouri or South Carolina or Kentucky put together one great season and compete for a conference title? Sure. Is it likely? Probably not.

Good point on the coach leaving too.
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The sun striking the earth is more likely.
 
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But, as someone said earlier can Missouri keep him?
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It is possible they could. Big school in a big state with no in-state competition. If it came down to money, I think they could raise it. That's not 100% certain if a beguiling school had a big enough name, but Georgia wasn't a big name before Vince Dooley sunk roots there, either.
 
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