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freewillie07

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Maryland lost at Penn State tonight, meaning they’ve lost 4 of their last 5.

NU has won 4 of its last 5.

Always tough to win on the road, but the Cats have to be feeling pretty good right now with their surge back to .500. Looking forward to the game.
 

NURoseBowl

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Like to see us reach the #6 seed for the Big Ten tournament, and this would be a significant step in that direction if we can pull it off.
 
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Maryland lost at Penn State tonight, meaning they’ve lost 4 of their last 5.

NU has won 4 of its last 5.

Always tough to win on the road, but the Cats have to be feeling pretty good right now with their surge back to .500. Looking forward to the game.
We are jelling as a team. We need Vic Law to step up
 

backdoorpass

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Like to see us reach the #6 seed for the Big Ten tournament, and this would be a significant step in that direction if we can pull it off.

Right now, Penn State is only a half game ahead of us at #6. Unfortunately, PSU would beat us in a tie-breaker. So, we will have to pass them in the standings.

Fortunately for us, Penn State has a reeeeally tough remaining schedule with Purdue, Ohio State, Nebraska, Michigan (and Illinois). Brutal. Of course, PSU already handed the Buckeyes their only loss...so you never know. The Nittany Lions are officially on the Bubble and fighting for their first NCAA Tournament bid since 2011--and their second since 2001.
 
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Right now, Penn State is only a half game ahead of us at #6. Unfortunately, PSU would beat us in a tie-breaker. So, we will have to pass them in the standings.

Fortunately for us, Penn State has a reeeeally tough remaining schedule with Purdue, Ohio State, Nebraska, Michigan (and Illinois). Brutal. Of course, PSU already handed the Buckeyes their only loss...so you never know. The Nittany Lions are officially on the Bubble and fighting for their first NCAA Tournament bid since 2011--and their second since 2001.
They will lose at least 3 games! We may lose one or two at the most! We are making a run!
 

DaCat

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Right now, Penn State is only a half game ahead of us at #6. Unfortunately, PSU would beat us in a tie-breaker. So, we will have to pass them in the standings.

Fortunately for us, Penn State has a reeeeally tough remaining schedule with Purdue, Ohio State, Nebraska, Michigan (and Illinois). Brutal. Of course, PSU already handed the Buckeyes their only loss...so you never know. The Nittany Lions are officially on the Bubble and fighting for their first NCAA Tournament bid since 2011--and their second since 2001.
This is shaping up to be an exciting stretch run. Cats have a reasonable schedule, and with Mac and Lindsey hopefully hitting their stride, have a good chance of moving up in the standings. Sitting at .500 in the conference is not terrible given how we have underperformed to many expectations.
 

JournCat

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The only Big Ten teams that have beaten Maryland at home are Purdue and Michigan State. Winning there would be a really nice accomplishment.
 

CappyNU

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The biggest thing for us to avoid at Maryland is allowing them to go on a long run. At home this year they have had a lot of them which have contributed to their great record:

Illinois - runs of 10-0 and 17-2
PSU - two runs of 9-0
Iowa - a run of 19-2
Minnesota - runs of 13-0 and 21-2
Wisconsin - a run of 17-2

Even in their losses, they had runs of 17-3 and 11-3 against Purdue, and 14-4 against MSU. If we can avoid getting caught up by Maryland feeding off of the crowd, we can pull this off. Hopefully we get lucky and their 7'1" center Cekovsky misses another game with his injury, as they are extra thin on depth right now
 
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The biggest thing for us to avoid at Maryland is allowing them to go on a long run. At home this year they have had a lot of them which have contributed to their great record:

Illinois - runs of 10-0 and 17-2
PSU - two runs of 9-0
Iowa - a run of 19-2
Minnesota - runs of 13-0 and 21-2
Wisconsin - a run of 17-2

Even in their losses, they had runs of 17-3 and 11-3 against Purdue, and 14-4 against MSU. If we can avoid getting caught up by Maryland feeding off of the crowd, we can pull this off. Hopefully we get lucky and their 7'1" center Cekovsky misses another game with his injury, as they are extra thin on depth right now
I heard he was hurt! By the way, call or email anytime if I can help with the book writing!
 

NUCat320

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I like the noon start time. It'll be a quiet , perhaps late arriving, probably not yet drunk crowd.
 

1989CatAlum

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First time, long time. Can someone explain why every site/expert lists Maryland as a current "bubble" team for March Madness when they have basically the same overall record that we have (not to mention that only one of our non-conference losses was to a team that will not make the tournament and Maryland had a joke of a non-conference schedule), plus they are just 5-8 in the conference?

And while you guys are at it, if we had a regular season 10-8 regular season big ten record last year (not crazy to think we can repeat that), and had a MUCH harder non-conference schedule this year, it's kind of fair to say our choice of non-conference opponents is what really will keep us out of the tourney, no? Last year was so fun and amazing that it's easy to forget we were only 10-8 in the conference.

Anyway, thanks for all of the discussion. I always enjoy reading everyone's thoughts.
 

Styre

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First time, long time. Can someone explain why every site/expert lists Maryland as a current "bubble" team for March Madness when they have basically the same overall record that we have (not to mention that only one of our non-conference losses was to a team that will not make the tournament and Maryland had a joke of a non-conference schedule), plus they are just 5-8 in the conference?

And while you guys are at it, if we had a regular season 10-8 regular season big ten record last year (not crazy to think we can repeat that), and had a MUCH harder non-conference schedule this year, it's kind of fair to say our choice of non-conference opponents is what really will keep us out of the tourney, no? Last year was so fun and amazing that it's easy to forget we were only 10-8 in the conference.

Anyway, thanks for all of the discussion. I always enjoy reading everyone's thoughts.

Of 108 current brackets at bracketproject.com, 8 of them have Maryland in. They’re an NIT team right now. Also, their non-con wins over Butler and Bucknell look better than any of ours. As for NU, I don’t think our non-conference schedule was terrible, but we lost every single game against an opponent with a pulse. If we had beaten Texas Tech and GT and Creighton and Oklahoma - or hell, even 2 of them - we’d be in a very different place right now.
 

NJCat

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If we had beaten Texas Tech and GT and Creighton and Oklahoma - or hell, even 2 of them - we’d be in a very different place right now.
Well, given that TTU and OU are top 25 teams and CU on the cusp, beating all three would have meant that NU was/is a top 25 team too. Which is isn't. The real shame is that NU lost winnable games @Tech and against CU. Starting the season in the zone might have made all the difference. C'est la vie.......
 
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Of 108 current brackets at bracketproject.com, 8 of them have Maryland in. They’re an NIT team right now. Also, their non-con wins over Butler and Bucknell look better than any of ours. As for NU, I don’t think our non-conference schedule was terrible, but we lost every single game against an opponent with a pulse. If we had beaten Texas Tech and GT and Creighton and Oklahoma - or hell, even 2 of them - we’d be in a very different place right now.
Nothing at all wrong with our non-conference schedule (though the home schedule was ugly). As you said, the problem is we didn't win any of the "big" games, and got destroyed in two of them.
 
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Well, given that TTU and OU are top 25 teams and CU on the cusp, beating all three would have meant that NU was/is a top 25 team too. Which is isn't. The real shame is that NU lost winnable games @Tech and against CU. Starting the season in the zone might have made all the difference. C'est la vie.......
We lost those games because we were playing Brown and Benson too much. Now Ash and Falzon are coming into their own,I expect us to finish 5-1 the rest of the way,with a win over MSU and Maryland! Ash will be starting point guard next year!
 

NJCat

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We lost those games because we were playing Brown and Benson too much. Now Ash and Falzon are coming into their own,I expect us to finish 5-1 the rest of the way,with a win over MSU and Maryland! Ash will be starting point guard next year!
No.

No.

And No.
 
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Oh yea! Just watch the tape! We got our starting five clicking on all silinders and now with Ash and Falzon off the bench giving good minutes,we all all set to make a run for the NCAA tournament!
 

ricko6543211

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First time, long time. Can someone explain why every site/expert lists Maryland as a current "bubble" team for March Madness when they have basically the same overall record that we have (not to mention that only one of our non-conference losses was to a team that will not make the tournament and Maryland had a joke of a non-conference schedule), plus they are just 5-8 in the conference?

And while you guys are at it, if we had a regular season 10-8 regular season big ten record last year (not crazy to think we can repeat that), and had a MUCH harder non-conference schedule this year, it's kind of fair to say our choice of non-conference opponents is what really will keep us out of the tourney, no? Last year was so fun and amazing that it's easy to forget we were only 10-8 in the conference.

Anyway, thanks for all of the discussion. I always enjoy reading everyone's thoughts.
I mean, to be clear I don't think Maryland should be in the tournament at all right now, but I do think they are closer than us. Look at their schedule vs ours. Their OOC wins are better than ours. And their B1G schedule to date has been FAR more difficult than ours. They've already played 6 games against the big 4 (Purdue OSU MSU Mich) which contribute 6 of their 8 losses, and they have one more remaining against Mich. Michigan is the only one of those 4 that we get twice, and that's probably the easiest of the 4 of them. Overall I would say our conference schedule is about 1.5 wins easier than theirs is (that is a high level assertion done without any meaningful analysis). It comes and goes though... last year they had maybe the easiest B1G schedule in the conference, so this is a role reversal.

So I don't think it's fair to say they are a legitimate bubble team, but they have a better shot at playing their way in during the rest of the regular season than we do. And it certainly will not be an easy game on the road.

But... if we keep playing like we have been more recently, then it's certainly doable. And if we do win then that would be a pretty significant step in vaulting us up the pecking order.
 

1989CatAlum

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I mean, to be clear I don't think Maryland should be in the tournament at all right now, but I do think they are closer than us. Look at their schedule vs ours. Their OOC wins are better than ours. And their B1G schedule to date has been FAR more difficult than ours. They've already played 6 games against the big 4 (Purdue OSU MSU Mich) which contribute 6 of their 8 losses, and they have one more remaining against Mich. Michigan is the only one of those 4 that we get twice, and that's probably the easiest of the 4 of them. Overall I would say our conference schedule is about 1.5 wins easier than theirs is (that is a high level assertion done without any meaningful analysis). It comes and goes though... last year they had maybe the easiest B1G schedule in the conference, so this is a role reversal.

So I don't think it's fair to say they are a legitimate bubble team, but they have a better shot at playing their way in during the rest of the regular season than we do. And it certainly will not be an easy game on the road.

But... if we keep playing like we have been more recently, then it's certainly doable. And if we do win then that would be a pretty significant step in vaulting us up the pecking order.

Right, so I guess I was harping on the fact that most of our OOC losses came against tournament teams while assuming that our OOC schedule last year was a cupcake one (which, looking back, it was not).
 

CappyNU

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The Butler game is the only win that Maryland has in the Tier 1 or Tier 2 categories that the committee is using this year, and that win came in November before they had the season-ending injuries to Jackson and Bender. That win will be discounted by the committee for sure. They are 0-10 in Tier 1 and 2 games since the Butler win and have won exactly 1 true road game, against Illinois, a game that they should've lost but squeaked out in OT by 1 point. If they don't run the table, they have zero chance at a tourney bid.
 
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I mean, to be clear I don't think Maryland should be in the tournament at all right now, but I do think they are closer than us. Look at their schedule vs ours. Their OOC wins are better than ours. And their B1G schedule to date has been FAR more difficult than ours. They've already played 6 games against the big 4 (Purdue OSU MSU Mich) which contribute 6 of their 8 losses, and they have one more remaining against Mich. Michigan is the only one of those 4 that we get twice, and that's probably the easiest of the 4 of them. Overall I would say our conference schedule is about 1.5 wins easier than theirs is (that is a high level assertion done without any meaningful analysis). It comes and goes though... last year they had maybe the easiest B1G schedule in the conference, so this is a role reversal.

So I don't think it's fair to say they are a legitimate bubble team, but they have a better shot at playing their way in during the rest of the regular season than we do. And it certainly will not be an easy game on the road.

But... if we keep playing like we have been more recently, then it's certainly doable. And if we do win then that would be a pretty significant step in vaulting us up the pecking order.
I wish we would have figured out our defensive scheme and player personnel earlier. Likely, would have had three more wins!
 

ricko6543211

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Right, so I guess I was harping on the fact that most of our OOC losses came against tournament teams while assuming that our OOC schedule last year was a cupcake one (which, looking back, it was not).
Right - I mean their OOC schedule was not like meaningfully harder than ours this year, but it was on par I think or maybe a touch tougher. The difference is they had some quality wins balanced against some bad losses in OOC, which is a better combo than us who got nothing approaching a quality win, with 1 somewhat bad loss to GT added on.

That said, a big weakness in Maryland's resume is a lack of quality in-conference wins.
 

willycat

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Right - I mean their OOC schedule was not like meaningfully harder than ours this year, but it was on par I think or maybe a touch tougher. The difference is they had some quality wins balanced against some bad losses in OOC, which is a better combo than us who got nothing approaching a quality win, with 1 somewhat bad loss to GT added on.

That said, a big weakness in Maryland's resume is a lack of quality in-conference wins.
All of that is probably true but if NU is still hoping to be on the bubble, then Maryland should also be there. Just yesterday Underwood was quoted that the illini were still playing for it all. That was before yesterdays loss to Wisconsin but I bet is still saying the same b.s..
 

Purple Pile Driver

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Right - I mean their OOC schedule was not like meaningfully harder than ours this year, but it was on par I think or maybe a touch tougher. The difference is they had some quality wins balanced against some bad losses in OOC, which is a better combo than us who got nothing approaching a quality win, with 1 somewhat bad loss to GT added on.

That said, a big weakness in Maryland's resume is a lack of quality in-conference wins.
Neither team is getting in, barring a miracle B1G Tourney run.