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dgtatu01

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The automobile with the most American made parts and the most American workers involved in the process is.........The Toyota Camry made in Georgetown, KY. The second most American made auto is the Honda Accord.

These following cars however do not have a single American made component or part and were assembled totally outside of the US.

  • Audi: A3, A6 and S3.
  • Honda: CR-Z.
  • Kia Soul: EV.
  • Mazda: 3, 6, CX-3, CX-5, CX-9, MX-5.
  • Mercedes: B-Class E-CELL, C-Class Coupe, CLA-Class, CLS-Class, E-Class, Cabriolet/Coupe, G-Class, GLA-Class, GLC-Class, GT-Class, Metris van, S-Class, S-Class Coupe, SL-Class and SLK-Class.
  • Smart: Fortwo and Fortwo EV.
  • Mitsubishi: i-MiEV and Outlander.
  • Infiniti: Q60, Q70, QX50, QX70 and QX80.
  • Nissan: 370Z Coupe, GT-R, Juke and Quest.
  • Subaru: BRZ, Forester, Impreza, WRX and XV Crosstrek.
  • Lexus: GS F, LS 460, LS 600h, NX, RC, RC F.
  • Scion: FR-S, IM, Mirai and tC.
  • Toyota: 4Runner, Prius C, RAV4 hybrid and Yaris.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/09/16/made-in-usa-ford-fiat-chrysler-cars/90484950/
 
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We-Todd-Did

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I don't disagree with the ratings or methods, but it's pretty hard to determine what's what. I know of one supplier that assembles chinese components here, and then sells them to manufacturers as US content.

I'm not a big "Buy American" guy, although I do try to, but that chinese made Buick will never be in my garage.
 
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Naturally, auto makers are like any business. The want to profit as much as they can off their product. Labor is too high in the U.S. That's why Ford just announced they were moving a plant to Mexico.

Something needs to be done, even if the U.S. has to subsidize car makers like they do big oil companies. However, then you open a whole new set of problems.
 

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Naturally, auto makers are like any business. The want to profit as much as they can off their product. Labor is too high in the U.S. That's why Ford just announced they were moving a plant to Mexico.
Ford is moving the Fiesta and Focus to Mexico for the labor. That's not good but it's understandable because the profit margin on small cars here are pretty slim. The last I can recall reading was that automakers averaged labor costs of less than 20% of the total build cost of US production vehicles so maybe the rest are safe for a while.
 

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Naturally, auto makers are like any business. The want to profit as much as they can off their product. Labor is too high in the U.S. That's why Ford just announced they were moving a plant to Mexico.

Something needs to be done, even if the U.S. has to subsidize car makers like they do big oil companies. However, then you open a whole new set of problems.

Labor costs in the US aren't too high, they're just higher than Mexico. However, like you wrote profit margins on small cars are less than trucks and SUV's, so in order to maximze profits they move those to a third world country, where labor is dirt cheap and environmental policies are MUCH less restrictive.
 

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I personally think that fulfillment is the next manufacturing in the US job market. Amazon is already paying $13/hr for box stuffers. UPS is paying the same for sorting. Internet commerce is getting bigger and bigger and none of these people can find enough workers. I think by 2020 we could see $17-$20 hour pay at Amazon type places. These jobs also cannot go anywhere because all of these companies are delivering in 2 days or less. That's my low skilled job outlook for the next few years.
 

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Does this mean more American flags on Camry's?
 
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Two countries with high labor rates and also high quality products (Germany and Japan) are still making a lot of cars in their own countries. However, they too are building cars in places with lower labor rates. It's globalization and the only way to be competitive is to stay on the leading edge of technology - i.e. more automation.
 

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Two countries with high labor rates and also high quality products (Germany and Japan) are still making a lot of cars in their own countries. However, they too are building cars in places with lower labor rates. It's globalization and the only way to be competitive is to stay on the leading edge of technology - i.e. more automation.

How many German or Japanese brand cars are made here or anywhere else, and then sent BACK to Germany or Japan to be sold?

Thats where my issue arises, if you want to build a car in Mexico or China that will exclusively be sold in those countries, or other third world nations I can understand that.
However, when you then ship that car back across the border to be sold at prices equal to what it would be if US workers built it, then I have an issue.
 
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ALL BMW X series SUVs are made in the Spartanburg, SC facility and shipped around the world. Not sure but may be the same situation with the Mercedes SUV made in Vance, AL.
 
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Ford is moving the Fiesta and Focus to Mexico for the labor. That's not good but it's understandable because the profit margin on small cars here are pretty slim. The last I can recall reading was that automakers averaged labor costs of less than 20% of the total build cost of US production vehicles so maybe the rest are safe for a while.

And the only reason Ford is in the small car game at all is bc the US government requires it.
 

Bill Derington

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ALL BMW X series SUVs are made in the Spartanburg, SC facility and shipped around the world. Not sure but may be the same situation with the Mercedes SUV made in Vance, AL.

From what I read, and it could be wrong, the German vehicles built here stay for the most part in North America.

I don't think Ford made this announcement right now by accident. Like Wayne wrote, Ford probably doesn't want to build the small vehicles. They quit making the Ranger pick up a couple years ago.
One of the main points of the election is outsourcing jobs and plants. Ford is working an angle with this.
 

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From what I read, and it could be wrong, the German vehicles built here stay for the most part in North America.
I don't believe this is correct. BMW ships a lot of cars out of the Charleston harbor. I imagine anything staying in the states would be shipped by railroad.
 

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I personally think that fulfillment is the next manufacturing in the US job market. Amazon is already paying $13/hr for box stuffers. UPS is paying the same for sorting. Internet commerce is getting bigger and bigger and none of these people can find enough workers. I think by 2020 we could see $17-$20 hour pay at Amazon type places. These jobs also cannot go anywhere because all of these companies are delivering in 2 days or less. That's my low skilled job outlook for the next few years.
I think by 2020 a lot more of the process will be automated and pay will drop relative to where it is now.

Technologically speaking these jobs are stopgaps, the same way 8-tracks and cassettes represented a kludgey stopgap between analog and digital.

The same goes for Uber. The human drivers are a stopgap and Uber has a huge order for future autonomous Teslas already.
 

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Why isn't Tesla mentioned on this list?

Also, the average salary of an Autoworker in 07 was around $25 a hour. Now we are replacing those jobs with $13 a hour jobs at Amazon and somehow looking at that as a good thing. No wonder we have some much civil unrest in this country.