Most Important Guy On Defense Next Year?

WildcatofNati

Heisman
Mar 31, 2009
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Depends on how you define "most important". Is it the guy who is going to be our defensive MVP, or the guy who has the biggest job to handle? I think Westry is by far going to be our best defensive player, but the guy who we really need to step up, is Elam.
 
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docholiday51

Heisman
Oct 19, 2001
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Love. Heard too many reports he's a natural leader and the real deal on the field.

Agree he has to make plays from the linebacker spot,if the offense has to worry about him then others are able to make plays.That is one thing we missed last year.
 

CATFANFOLIFE87

Heisman
Apr 8, 2008
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I agree with those saying Love and those saying Elam for the same reasons that you all have mentioned. Love is the leader and we need Elam to anchor the defense. Those two are going to be crucial if the defense is going to take a step forward. I think both are ready for the challenge though
 

docholiday51

Heisman
Oct 19, 2001
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I agree with those saying Love and those saying Elam for the same reasons that you all have mentioned. Love is the leader and we need Elam to anchor the defense. Those two are going to be crucial if the defense is going to take a step forward. I think both are ready for the challenge though
If we can get to a point where the offense is having to account for these 2 with more than 2 people we will be on to something.Get the defense off the field after 3rd down on a regular basis and the defense get a whole lot better.
 

K_TIME

Heisman
Jan 2, 2003
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From all you hear...it has to be Love. We lost so much upfront and LBer spots...we need Love to be really good to have a shot of putting up a good front 7.
 

3kidsandme

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Jan 12, 2013
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From all you hear...it has to be Love. We lost so much upfront and LBer spots...we need Love to be really good to have a shot of putting up a good front 7.
We lost forrest who was a good player but was out of position. Love is a true inside backer. Laster is going to be an upgrade as well. Plus the weight Jones and Brown put on will be huge. Those two guys have very high ceilings. I actually think Backer has one of the highest ceilings as a group on the team.
 

docholiday51

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Oct 19, 2001
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We lost forrest who was a good player but was out of position. Love is a true inside backer. Laster is going to be an upgrade as well. Plus the weight Jones and Brown put on will be huge. Those two guys have very high ceilings. I actually think Backer has one of the highest ceilings as a group on the team.
It absolutely is an upgraded group,that is why these 4 or 5 max win posters drive me crazy.
 

3kidsandme

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Jan 12, 2013
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It absolutely is an upgraded group,that is why these 4 or 5 max win posters drive me crazy.
I agree its hard to predict wins and losses but this team will have a real chance to win all there games. The secondary and linebacker have as much talent as any team in the conference. The offense will average around 30 ppg on the year so that puts us at 7 5 8 4 imo.
 

UKSanders_rivals37733

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Jan 1, 2003
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It POTENTIALLY is an upgraded group,that is why these 4 or 5 max win posters drive me crazy.

Fixed it for you.

While I hope you are right, no one knows if the LBs OR the DLine will be improve. It's fun to speculate, but it's way too early to say absolutely. Matter of fact, the ONLY position groups that can realistically be stated as being that good are Safety and Corner, and that's only b/c guys that played well there last year were young. So they should improve just from experience alone.
 

docholiday51

Heisman
Oct 19, 2001
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Fixed it for you.

While I hope you are right, no one knows if the LBs OR the DLine will be improve. It's fun to speculate, but it's way too early to say absolutely. Matter of fact, the ONLY position groups that can realistically be stated as being that good are Safety and Corner, and that's only b/c guys that played well there last year were young. So they should improve just from experience alone.
I was posting on the LB's position,appreciate it I need all the help I can get.:sunglasses:
 

hmt5000

Heisman
Aug 29, 2009
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elam and love have to both be better than either position was played last year. forrest was good in coverage but most of his tackles were 4 to 9 yards down field... even if he made first contact 1 yard past los. if elam holds 2 gaps and can get some tfl's and love can make tackles at the line of scrimmage then this D will look wayyy better than last year. i think we add enough pass rushers this year to not really have to worry about that not improving.
 

The_Oak

All-Conference
Mar 3, 2007
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Honestly I don't have one specific name, we just need someone who can constantly get pressure on the QB and disrupt things in the backfield. Fill in whoevers name you wish. Until we start getting more pressure in the backfield our defense will never take the next step.
 
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RV

Heisman
Jun 26, 2005
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Hatcher and/or Laster. They play the Sam Backer and that position is the most versatile and important cog in the defense. It takes a special player to do all the things required of the position.
 

mrhotdice

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Nov 1, 2002
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Unless Elam can get some kind of push instead of standing upright, he just takes up space. From what I've seen, he needs to be much stronger for someone like him to dominate. Just my opinion.
 

Tskware

Heisman
Jan 26, 2003
25,095
21,602
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Hatcher and/or Laster. They play the Sam Backer and that position is the most versatile and important cog in the defense. It takes a special player to do all the things required of the position.

Hatcher. We were last by a mile in the SEC in QB sacks and TFLs last year. In fact, ranked no. 122 in the NCAA in TFLs. Hatcher is the most likely player to put up a big senior year, we really need to put a lot of negative plays on the opposition to keep us in games.
 

CatDaddy4daWin

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Dec 11, 2013
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I'd have to say Hatcher as well. We have got to get some sacks this year. Last year was just pitiful in that department. You can't win when you are not making opposing offensives work from behind. If we can consistently get teams in 3rd and long situations I believe good things will happen for us.
 

gamecockcat

Heisman
Oct 29, 2004
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I agree its hard to predict wins and losses but this team will have a real chance to win all there games. The secondary and linebacker have as much talent as any team in the conference. The offense will average around 30 ppg on the year so that puts us at 7 5 8 4 imo.

The secondary and linebacker have as much talent as any team in the conference
I love UK football but, really? There is some person with at least average intelligence that can look at our roster and say we have as much talent at DB and LB as Alabama, Florida, LSU, etc.? Just setting yourself up for a massive disappointment. I think it's entirely possible that our back 7 will be better but not in a million years do I think we have as much talent as other SEC teams. In some cases, it's not even close.

Most critical player is whoever on the DL plays like a true SEC D-lineman. We've been pretty awful stopping the run, penetrating, getting sacks, etc. For us to even have a prayer of taking a big step forward in the SEC, that's gotta change. Whether it's Elam (I am skeptical), Hatcher (good possibility) or any other DL, we've GOT to get better production out of that unit as a whole or we can forget bowling this year.
 

3kidsandme

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The secondary and linebacker have as much talent as any team in the conference
I love UK football but, really? There is some person with at least average intelligence that can look at our roster and say we have as much talent at DB and LB as Alabama, Florida, LSU, etc.? Just setting yourself up for a massive disappointment. I think it's entirely possible that our back 7 will be better but not in a million years do I think we have as much talent as other SEC teams. In some cases, it's not even close.

Most critical player is whoever on the DL plays like a true SEC D-lineman. We've been pretty awful stopping the run, penetrating, getting sacks, etc. For us to even have a prayer of taking a big step forward in the SEC, that's gotta change. Whether it's Elam (I am skeptical), Hatcher (good possibility) or any other DL, we've GOT to get better production out of that unit as a whole or we can forget bowling this year.
Yes I think we have as much talent at corner and linebacker as any team in the country. Any average intelligence fan such as yourself can look at star ratings. Westry is already being considered for a first rd pick. I believe Davonta Robinson is as good as any highschool corner that I have ever seen. I really like are backers for the scheme we run and believe they will have as much production as anybody. We will never have as much talent on paper as bama, lsu,ga
 
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Tblue60

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Jun 18, 2007
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Yes he started every game after lewis was injured. Not sure what your talking about.
He did start 4 games - for the year 10 solo tackles (less than i per game played12), 0.5 ^TFL in 12 games, no fumbles caused or recovered
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WildCard

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May 29, 2001
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I don't think there is any one person. Defense is about being "good" everywhere rather than "great" somewhere. If you have a weak link the offense will find it.

Regardless, the Cats have to get better on run defense and that starts on the D-line. Penetration by the D-line basically blows up ANY running game. I would say whoever is playing the 3 tech has the opportunity to have the biggest impact on defense. JMO.

Peace
 

Rhavic

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Dec 15, 2014
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To answer the question, I do think the front 3 are the most important guys next year. We know what we have in our secondary, it's pretty electric, and a gigantic upgrade from the previous guys. The unit that has to step up to make the next huge jump defensively is the d-line.

I really want our front 3 to be Kengera Daniel, Matt Elam, and Denzil Ware. Ware is better with his hand in the dirt, as is Daniel, and both will be big enough (I figure both could be around 270-275 this upcoming season) and athletic enough to get into opposing backfield to make plays. Elam can do the trick as a gap clogger up the middle, and all of these things can really open up the LOS for our linebackers to make the correct reads and will allow them to make plays.
Plus, pressure on the QB will make our already very solid pass defense even better, and possibly by a large margin considering we had a top 30 pass defense this past season despite starting 3 true freshmen, and having no pass rush to make it easier on them to boot.
 
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3kidsandme

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To answer the question, I do think the front 3 are the most important guys next year. We know what we have in our secondary, it's pretty electric, and a gigantic upgrade from the previous guys. The unit that has to step up to make the next huge jump defensively is the d-line.

I really want our front 3 to be Kengera Daniel, Matt Elam, and Denzil Ware. Ware is better with his hand in the dirt, as is Daniel, and both will be big enough (I figure both could be around 270-275 this upcoming season) and athletic enough to get into opposing backfield to make plays. Elam can do the trick as a gap clogger up the middle, and all of these things can really open up the LOS for our linebackers to make the correct reads and will allow them to make plays.
Plus, pressure on the QB will make our already very solid pass defense even better, and possibly by a large margin considering we had a top 30 pass defense this past season despite starting 3 true freshmen, and having no pass rush to make it easier on them to boot.
I don't think Ware and Daniel are big enough to both play interior dline in a 3 4. Meant is the guy that needs to step his game up. People forget because CJ played well that when healthy Meant beat him out.
 

Glenn Fohr

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Jan 5, 2003
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Ware would be fine at DE in a 4-3 set with two huge tackles beside him, like Elam and Pringle or Meant.
 

3kidsandme

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To answer the question, I do think the front 3 are the most important guys next year. We know what we have in our secondary, it's pretty electric, and a gigantic upgrade from the previous guys. The unit that has to step up to make the next huge jump defensively is the d-line.

I really want our front 3 to be Kengera Daniel, Matt Elam, and Denzil Ware. Ware is better with his hand in the dirt, as is Daniel, and both will be big enough (I figure both could be around 270-275 this upcoming season) and athletic enough to get into opposing backfield to make plays. Elam can do the trick as a gap clogger up the middle, and all of these things can really open up the LOS for our linebackers to make the correct reads and will allow them to make plays.
Plus, pressure on the QB will make our already very solid pass defense even better, and possibly by a large margin considering we had a top 30 pass defense this past season despite starting 3 true freshmen, and having no pass rush to make it easier on them to boot.
I don't think Ware and Daniel are big enough to both play interior dline in a 3 4. Meant is the guy that needs to step his game up. People forget because CJ played well that when healthy Meant beat him out.