Mt. Rushmore of college basketball coaches
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This is like the official summer topic, the old "Mt. Rushmore of (insert topic).
I'd go
Rupp
Iba
Phog
Dean
I'd go
Rupp
Iba
Phog
Dean
Coach K, Coach Wooden, Coach Knight and Coach Rupp.
Some of the lists I'm seeing posted are a bit humorous and clearly anti-certain coaches. It's an opinion though, so more power to those people.
Some of the lists I'm seeing posted are a bit humorous and clearly anti-certain coaches. It's an opinion though, so more power to those people.
Wooden
Rupp
K
Deano
The "Crazy Horse" corresponding monument: Calipari
This post was edited on 1/26 10:16 PM by Son_Of_Saul
Rupp
K
Deano
The "Crazy Horse" corresponding monument: Calipari
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Congrats to both men, I think I'll stick with my Iphone 6 however...
If it were to be designed as of today, then the mount rushmore of college coaches would probably consist of Krzyzewski, Bobby Knight, Adolph Rupp, and Dean Smith (4 of the top 5 winningest D-I coaches of all time). No way John Wooden gets up there considering he's not even close on the list of winningest coaches, I dont care how many championships he won at UCLA, and Jim Boeheim is like the red-headed stepchild of the list. In fact, even if Boeheim outlasts Coach K (which I doubt since K is 3 years younger), and managed to catch K or even surpass him, I dont beleive he'd still be regarded in the same way K is. Just my opinion of course.
I agree MWes11. I don't think his records will ever be broken (the ones you listed). Was an average coach for several years but when the team became successful it was unbelievable. I didn't think it would ever end. It was the biggest news in sports when Notre Dame ended the 88 game streak. Of course it was at Notre Dame and I don't even think Digger Phelps believed it!
Didn't you just contradict yourself?
You put four coaches on "mount rushmore" but wouldn't put Wooden because he's not close in terms of "winningest coaches" but then you dismiss Boeheim who btw IS one of the winningest coaches in the sport.
Wins and Titles can't just be cherry picked when it's convenient.
Wooden
Rupp
Kryzewski
Knight
I don't think there is any way you can place Rick Barnes on any top coaches list.
Rupp
Kryzewski
Knight
I don't think there is any way you can place Rick Barnes on any top coaches list.
Wes I believe the Ncaa has acknowledged the massive cheating going on at UCLA during the tenure of Wooden and Gilbert. They just claimed it was in the past and let it go. I've got the ncaa past 100 years book, and even in the UCLA section they allow references to SAM Gilbert.
It's well documented even if sanctions didn't come down at the time. Wooden was a cheat. I wouldn't put him on the list.
It's well documented even if sanctions didn't come down at the time. Wooden was a cheat. I wouldn't put him on the list.
I understand the Sam Gilbert connection and how shady it was. But for me, if he never "officially" was put on probation or sanctioned during his tenure, I have to put him on the list. I believe the NCAA did touch on this, but Wooden used the "look the other way" method and he was never punished by the NCAA. If he was punished and wins were vacated/titles taken away, then I would not put him on the mountain either. Until that happens, he has to be one of the greatest college coaches of all time. That being said, I respect your opinion of not putting him on the list.
Mine would be James Naismith, John Wooden, Adolph Rupp, and Mike Krzyzewski. Honorable mentions: Phog Allen, Bobby Knight, Dean Smith, Rick Pitino (regardless of my feelings toward him, he is the first coach to take 3 different programs to the final four and also the first coach to win the title at 2 different schools).
I think Calipari might be an honorable mention for this at the end of his career, IF he can keep his program's record clean (which I think he will).
I think Calipari might be an honorable mention for this at the end of his career, IF he can keep his program's record clean (which I think he will).
Eddie Sutton
Billy Gillispie
Larry Eustachy
Bob Huggins
EDIT: just noticed it said Rushmore...not LUSHmore. Nevermind.
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Billy Gillispie
Larry Eustachy
Bob Huggins
EDIT: just noticed it said Rushmore...not LUSHmore. Nevermind.
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This post was edited on 1/26 11:14 AM by OldEvilleCat
Get your facts straight. First off, the NCAA did not merely "claim it was in the past" with the Gilbert stuff, instead they eventually hammered UCLA with a couple years of sanctions and probation for the Gilbert stuff around 79 or 80.
And it is NOT at all established that "Wooden was a cheat." , as there is NO evidence that Wooden himself evertook part in any sort of cheating. The shenanigans Sam Gilbert was up to occurred away from the court outside of Wooden's purview and without his consent. Indeed, by all accounts, Gilbert and Wooden never went near each other.
Now, of course, it certainly can be argued that Wooden should've known what Gilbert was up to and tried harder to put a stop to it. But, frankly, that could be said about nearly EVERY big time coach of that era (including our own), as sugar daddy boosters like Gilbert were prevalent at almost every major program during that era. But to suggest that Wooden was a direct participant in cheating is flat out false.
Good post. The NCAA really started cracking down on boosters in the 80s. Remember the Herald Leader inspired investigation into the $100 handshakes in the UK program? The point being that many (maybe all) big time schools had boosters who were doling out "illegal" benefits to players. Gilbert may have been richer/more involved than most, but not necessarily so.
Active coaches???
Coach K
Coach Cal
I hate to say it......Slick Rick ( I just threw up a little)
Bill Self
Coach K
Coach Cal
I hate to say it......Slick Rick ( I just threw up a little)
Bill Self