Nance from 3

Secho99

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After tonight, Nance is now shooting .462 from 3 this season with 42 makes, which ranks 22nd in the country for qualified players. Obviously with at least 1 more game left this will change, but that’s really good!

In the KenPom era (going back to 2002), no other NU player has made at least 42 3s and shot better than .462. The closest was Nate Taphorn, who made 39 3s and shot .470 in 2016-17.

The best that one of our high volume 3-pt shooters has done is John Shurna his senior year, he shot .440 with 95 made 3s.
 

TheC

All-Conference
May 29, 2001
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After tonight, Nance is now shooting .462 from 3 this season with 42 makes, which ranks 22nd in the country for qualified players. Obviously with at least 1 more game left this will change, but that’s really good!

In the KenPom era (going back to 2002), no other NU player has made at least 42 3s and shot better than .462. The closest was Nate Taphorn, who made 39 3s and shot .470 in 2016-17.

The best that one of our high volume 3-pt shooters has done is John Shurna his senior year, he shot .440 with 95 made 3s.
I still think he gets a look in the league because of things like this.
 

ricko6543211

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I still think he gets a look in the league because of things like this.
I know little to nothing about NBA scouting, but if I had to throw out a random guess I’d say he narrowly misses on the 2 round draft (would have been in a 3rd round?) but I strongly suspect he will get a look in the summer league, and then probably the G League or something like that.
 

TheC

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I know little to nothing about NBA scouting, but if I had to throw out a random guess I’d say he narrowly misses on the 2 round draft (would have been in a 3rd round?) but I strongly suspect he will get a look in the summer league, and then probably the G League or something like that.
He will definitely be a developmental project, so you are likely right that he won't get drafted, though it is not out of the question. He has length, is athletic, can shoot and has decent handles for his size. And I'm sure the name won't hurt. But he'll need to get stronger and more fluid with the NBA three. I could see him showing up in the league a few years from now after some G-league or overseas development.
 

CappyNU

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Mar 2, 2004
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After tonight, Nance is now shooting .462 from 3 this season with 42 makes, which ranks 22nd in the country for qualified players. Obviously with at least 1 more game left this will change, but that’s really good!

In the KenPom era (going back to 2002), no other NU player has made at least 42 3s and shot better than .462. The closest was Nate Taphorn, who made 39 3s and shot .470 in 2016-17.

The best that one of our high volume 3-pt shooters has done is John Shurna his senior year, he shot .440 with 95 made 3s.
Frankly, his improvement in this area is absolutely remarkable. He has improved every year, going from 26.3%, to 29.7%, to 34.4% and now to 46.2%. In conference, even better, going 18.8%, 27.0%, 34.0%, 46.2%. I would have to imagine the number of players in college who have achieved something like this is extremely small.
 

NUCat320

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Dec 4, 2005
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Frankly, his improvement in this area is absolutely remarkable. He has improved every year, going from 26.3%, to 29.7%, to 34.4% and now to 46.2%. In conference, even better, going 18.8%, 27.0%, 34.0%, 46.2%. I would have to imagine the number of players in college who have achieved something like this is extremely small.
I just looked at the same, and my pro comparison became Duncan Robinson. Nance is bigger, and shoots *better* than Robinson did at Michigan, and Robinson is now four years into a very good career as a very good NBA rotation player.

The difference is that Nance is, of course, so much more than a stand-up shooter. And he became a good shooter over time, and has become a great shooter in a single offseason. (I’m an amateur’s amateur, but it appears that Nance’s release is high, quick, and effortless — no form red flags that Shurna brought to the game.)

I also hesitated to call Nance the best shooter at NU since Shurna (Demps?), but there’s no doubt that it’s Pete as well.

Anyway, there’s an NBA player in there. And, frankly, he’s better served as a part of the machine than as a lead guy.
 

TheC

All-Conference
May 29, 2001
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I just looked at the same, and my pro comparison became Duncan Robinson. Nance is bigger, and shoots *better* than Robinson did at Michigan, and Robinson is now four years into a very good career as a very good NBA rotation player.

The difference is that Nance is, of course, so much more than a stand-up shooter. And he became a good shooter over time, and has become a great shooter in a single offseason. (I’m an amateur’s amateur, but it appears that Nance’s release is high, quick, and effortless — no form red flags that Shurna brought to the game.)

I also hesitated to call Nance the best shooter at NU since Shurna (Demps?), but there’s no doubt that it’s Pete as well.

Anyway, there’s an NBA player in there. And, frankly, he’s better served as a part of the machine than as a lead guy.
I can see him going on to have a solid NBA career and while we'll all be happy, we will be gnashing our teeth trying to figure out why we weren't a better team and he wasn't more of an All BIG caliber player during his time with us.
 

PurpleWhiteBoy

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I can see him going on to have a solid NBA career and while we'll all be happy, we will be gnashing our teeth trying to figure out why we weren't a better team and he wasn't more of an All BIG caliber player during his time with us.
I'm not looking to get anybody all incensed, but is it possible that somebody was in Pete's ear telling him "Look, you are never going to be a 5 in the NBA, what you need to do is show that you can really shoot it from 3 and have a midrange jumper..."

We have seen a lot less of Pete mixing it up down low on offense as if he is a traditional center.
141 attempts inside the arc 92 outside the arc.

Last year it was 150 inside, 66 outside.
 

NUCat320

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I'm not looking to get anybody all incensed, but is it possible that somebody was in Pete's ear telling him "Look, you are never going to be a 5 in the NBA, what you need to do is show that you can really shoot it from 3 and have a midrange jumper..."

We have seen a lot less of Pete mixing it up down low on offense as if he is a traditional center.
141 attempts inside the arc 92 outside the arc.

Last year it was 150 inside, 66 outside.
Waitwaitwaitwaitwait, are you suggesting that he should have been playing next to a traditional post player all along? 😂😂
 

GatoLouco

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From a developmental stand point it was awful for him to play 5. Regardless of what was told to him, five out, 5 to the top of the key, you are playing facing the basket most of the time, team before self, etc, etc.

And he has not bent his knees on defense much for 2 years. He will have to do a lot of work getting used to guarding someone who puts the ball on the floor a lot.
 

Secho99

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Dec 12, 2001
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He will definitely be a developmental project, so you are likely right that he won't get drafted, though it is not out of the question. He has length, is athletic, can shoot and has decent handles for his size. And I'm sure the name won't hurt. But he'll need to get stronger and more fluid with the NBA three. I could see him showing up in the league a few years from now after some G-league or overseas development.

I don’t even think he’s that much of a project. He can already shoot and he’s a good passer. He’s a creative finisher around the rim. Has good court awareness. Add some strength and I think he has a shot. He’s been playing out of position all year which is why I think if he decides to play one more year of college ball it would be somewhere else. His overall game seems like it would translate well to an NBA wing, just needs to be able to defend stronger guys. His brother was able to develop that and become an NBA rotation guy without having much of a perimeter game.