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They must have been refining their game plan for those extra few minutes. It appears to have worked!
 
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Not all that unusual, back in the late 80's I was on a college basketball team and the National Anthem was routinely played with about 5 minutes before the beginning of the game. Nearly every game we were in the locker room getting last minute instructions after shooting around. We wouldn't come out of the locker room until there was less than two minutes before tip off. This was normal for most teams. I can probably count on one hand how many times I was on the court for the National Anthem over four years.
 

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Seems like this is a slap in the face of the foundation of the school, military tradition, alum who went on to serve and the current corp students

From the school’s website:

Texas A&M was established in 1876 as a military institution, and the Corps of Cadets has played an important part in our history and development. While membership is now voluntary, the Texas A&M Corps of Cadets form the largest uniformed body of students outside the U.S. military academies.
 
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I don’t recall the last time I saw a game where the NA was aired prior to a game besides the Super Bowl. It’s something I like to see because the song means a lot to me. I’ll always stand when it’s played.

Most players proudly stand. Some kneel. Some raise black power fists. As long as you win games for Carolina you can wear a pink tutu before the game for all I care.

 
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Not all that unusual, back in the late 80's I was on a college basketball team and the National Anthem was routinely played with about 5 minutes before the beginning of the game. Nearly every game we were in the locker room getting last minute instructions after shooting around. We wouldn't come out of the locker room until there was less than two minutes before tip off. This was normal for most teams. I can probably count on one hand how many times I was on the court for the National Anthem over four years.
I recall attending a USC-Holy Cross game at the Coliseum about 40 years ago. Crusaders were on the court standing at attention for the National Anthem. Gamecocks were in the locker room at the time.

Yeah, I would like to see both teams on the court for the playing, but better to be in the locker room during it than out on the court and taking a knee.
 

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A&M stayed in the locker room for the national anthem. That's bush league.
Coaches have rigid pregame schedules. At away games or tv games they do not alter those for the anthem playing. Your take, clearly doesn’t take that into consideration.

The fact that you dropped this turd in the punch bowl and then ghosted the thread reflects poorly on you. It presents you as just a newbie **** stirring troll.
 
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Some of y'all need to think more about what you are really doing for America today before you demonize people you will never meet for not observing a symbolic ceremony according to your personal view.

I don’t think that not watching their games or buying their merch is demonizing them. I support the right to protest. But I also support my right to not have anything to do with a group whose protest I believe is political BS.
 

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Well so much for A&M being a military School.
Well ….have you heard about all the military enlightenment.

Actually, there may be nothing to this. As one poster said, when I was in HS during the ice age, our team came out onto the field after the anthem already played. Nothing sinister or calculated……And I guarantee you our coaches were patriots who loved this country.
 
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Until y'all start complaining equally about your fellow fans walking to their seats, talking to their friends, taking selfies, etc during the anthem, your complaints really don't amount to anything.
 

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Until y'all start complaining equally about your fellow fans walking to their seats, talking to their friends, taking selfies, etc during the anthem, your complaints really don't amount to anything.
I tell them to their face
 

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OK. But people don't complain about what the fans in the stands are doing during the anthem when they are watching on TV. That's my point.

To be honest, I've been a part of discussions like that. Although, it wasn't a common thing.
 

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Maybe freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom to assemble, freedom to dissent, you know very American ideals. I do also stand up to pee.
And what does the National Anthem represent?
"Maybe freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom to assemble, freedom to dissent, you know very American ideals"
So, if its these things you support, why not support the anthem of the country which is the standard for the things you support.
 
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Coaches have rigid pregame schedules. At away games or tv games they do not alter those for the anthem playing. Your take, clearly doesn’t take that into consideration.

The fact that you dropped this turd in the punch bowl and then ghosted the thread reflects poorly on you. It presents you as just a newbie **** stirring troll.
Are there any games today not televised or streamed? Even in D-II or D-III? You could build "standing at attention during the national anthem" into the pregame schedule if you wish.

Again, I stand by my original comment. Best is to be out on the court standing at attention. Second best is to be in the locker room during the playing.
 

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Until y'all start complaining equally about your fellow fans walking to their seats, talking to their friends, taking selfies, etc during the anthem, your complaints really don't amount to anything.

I attend a fair amount of sporting events, and rarely see what you are describing here. On occasion, people are quietly walking to their seats. Talking? Not really. Taking selfies? I've never once seen that happening during the anthem.

And even if this was all happening as you suggest, I'd chalk it up to apathy rather than protest. The apathetic tend to eventually grow up. The protesters deserve to be called out for their extreme ignorance. Otherwise, they may never learn.
 

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Until y'all start complaining equally about your fellow fans walking to their seats, talking to their friends, taking selfies, etc during the anthem, your complaints really don't amount to anything.

I tell them to their face
Hopefully, Tngamecock, you tell them after the playing! During the playing, sing sufficiently loud to disturb their conversations if you can.
 

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I attend a fair amount of sporting events, and rarely see what you are describing here. On occasion, people are quietly walking to their seats. Talking? Not really. Taking selfies? I've never once seen that happening during the anthem.

And even if this was all happening as you suggest, I'd chalk it up to apathy rather than protest. The apathetic tend to eventually grow up. The protesters deserve to be called out for their extreme ignorance. Otherwise, they may never learn.
Happens all the time at Williams-Brice, CLA, and Carolina Stadium.

As to your second point, disrespect is disrespect, is it not? No matter the reason. That is what people have been so vocal about all along. But only when the athletes do it.
 
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And what does the National Anthem represent?
"Maybe freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom to assemble, freedom to dissent, you know very American ideals"
So, if it’s these things you support, why not support the anthem of the country which is the standard for the things you support.
The freedom to dissent is one the most powerful gifts given in democracy. It means I do not have to kowtow to a king or leader. It means I can disagree and not be punished for disagreeing.


why do we want to bully people for disagreeing? I stand for the anthem at games, I never sing the anthem! Why? I have citizenship in two places. The USA and the kingdom of God. My first allegiance is to the kingdom of God. I do not sing my national anthem to always remind me of where my primary allegiance lies.

Before 9/11 NFL players were NEVER on the field for the anthem and nobody gave a damn. Making the anthem a litmus test for patriotism and love of country is a poor tool of assessment
 

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The freedom to dissent is one the most powerful gifts given in democracy. It means I do not have to kowtow to a king or leader. It means I can disagree and not be punished for disagreeing.


why do we want to bully people for disagreeing? I stand for the anthem at games, I never sing the anthem! Why? I have citizenship in two places. The USA and the kingdom of God. My first allegiance is to the kingdom of God. I do not sing my national anthem to always remind me of where my primary allegiance lies.

Before 9/11 NFL players were NEVER on the field for the anthem and nobody gave a damn. Making the anthem a litmus test for patriotism and love of country is a poor tool of assessment
I hear all this and it's good stuff. I can't disagree with any of it.

I guess a lot of people find it hypocritical for people to protest the most protest friendly country in the world. Most of the world has no constitution, no guarantees, subject to abuse by whatever entity is in power. People born and raised here are largely unaware just how free they are.

As for the NFL, it wasn't just the protest of the Anthem. It was a full court press to preach to the fans. It became tiresome to turn on some escapist entertainment only to get lectured to by people whose basic premise I wasn't buying.
 
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Happens all the time at Williams-Brice, CLA, and Carolina Stadium.

As to your second point, disrespect is disrespect, is it not? No matter the reason. That is what people have been so vocal about all along. But only when the athletes do it.

Sorry, there is a huge difference between being apathetic toward something and protesting it. It's almost a polar opposite.

The protests during sporting events touch an extra nerve because the people witnessing it paid money to be there. And in many cases, that money is going to support extravagant lifestyles of the protesters.
 
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Sorry, there is a huge difference between being apathetic toward something and protesting it. It's almost a polar opposite.

The protests during sporting events touch an extra nerve because the people witnessing it paid money to be there. And in many cases, that money is going to support extravagant lifestyles of the protesters.
I disagree. I was taught that disrespect is disrespect. One isn't lesser than the other. And honestly, I think those that think that way are a big part of the problem.