Naughty mommy alert!

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Mom, 38, arrested for having sex with daughter's 16-year-old ex-boyfriend
  • Fereshta Angel Williams, 38, was arrested on January 5 at her local 24-Hour Fitness
  • She has been charged with having sex with a minor, two counts of oral copulation of a minor and one count of trying to dissuade a witness
  • Her relationship with the 16-year-old at the time is alleged to lasted up to three months

 

RMP82

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Bless his heart, for he was a victim. I hope the young man can overcome such a traumatizing event.
 

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Originally posted by JohnBlue_:
She looks straight out of the Adams family.
She's Uncle Fester's wife, Aunt Fereshta.

Check out that hideous Herpes labialis bump on her upper lip.
 
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KopiKat

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Bless his heart, for he was a victim. I hope the young man can overcome such a traumatizing event.

Cynical down-playing. Interesting. So when the genders are reversed you no longer have any right to judge the immorality of a 40 year old male preying on the virtues of a 15-16 year old girl. That is a permanent, corrupted achievement that you will have to live with from now on. Forever of your character. Congratulations. Or maybe it is that you have a reason (track record of your own) for feeling that way. While I would agree with you that there is a difference in how a 16 year old male may be affected, if that was my son (or grandson) I would want to see this middle-age tart (decent looking as she may be) made an example of.
 

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Cynical down-playing. Interesting. So when the genders are reversed you no longer have any right to judge the immorality of a 40 year old male preying on the virtues of a 15-16 year old girl. That is a permanent, corrupted achievement that you will have to live with from now on. Forever of your character. Congratulations. Or maybe it is that you have a reason (track record of your own) for feeling that way. While I would agree with you that there is a difference in how a 16 year old male may be affected, if that was my son (or grandson) I would want to see this middle-age tart (decent looking as she may be) made an example of.
Or...we remember what we were like at 16, and would have jackhammered the GD wall if it looked good enough. Dont get me wrong, what she did was wrong, but in most cases with males being the minor, I guarantee-GD-tee if asked if they felt like a victim they would say no if they didn't have a parent breathing down their neck to say otherwise. At 16, I would have hit her so hard that whoever had the courage to pull me out of her would be blessed with the power of Thor.
 

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Or...we remember what we were like at 16, and would have jackhammered the GD wall if it looked good enough. Dont get me wrong, what she did was wrong, but in most cases with males being the minor, I guarantee-GD-tee if asked if they felt like a victim they would say no if they didn't have a parent breathing down their neck to say otherwise. At 16, I would have hit her so hard that whoever had the courage to pull me out of her would be blessed with the power of Thor.

That's right. I can remember being 16. And to speak hypothetically for myself for that time period - as you have done for yourself - would cross no moral ground. Not at all. But none of those retrospectives would allow any grounds for application to other individuals. I couldn't say, "because that is how I would have felt about myself then this 16 year old boy today is not a victim." Such a statement is fundamentally immoral and corrupt.
 

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That's right. I can remember being 16. And to speak hypothetically for myself for that time period - as you have done for yourself - would cross no moral ground. Not at all. But none of those retrospectives would allow any grounds for application to other individuals. I couldn't say, "because that is how I would have felt about myself then this 16 year old boy today is not a victim." Such a statement is fundamentally immoral and corrupt.

We get it, you're intelligent. Might be time to get over yourself though.
 

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That's right. I can remember being 16. And to speak hypothetically for myself for that time period - as you have done for yourself - would cross no moral ground. Not at all. But none of those retrospectives would allow any grounds for application to other individuals. I couldn't say, "because that is how I would have felt about myself then this 16 year old boy today is not a victim." Such a statement is fundamentally immoral and corrupt.
Had this been a one time thing, I'd entertain that notion, but it didn't. Three months. This kid wasn't a victim.
 

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That's right. I can remember being 16. And to speak hypothetically for myself for that time period - as you have done for yourself - would cross no moral ground. Not at all. But none of those retrospectives would allow any grounds for application to other individuals. I couldn't say, "because that is how I would have felt about myself then this 16 year old boy today is not a victim." Such a statement is fundamentally immoral and corrupt.

I actually agree with you as times and gender roles have changed a lot, but the way you stated your opinion was the gayest thing I've read today.
 
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RacerX.ksr

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We get it, you're intelligent. Might be time to get over yourself though.

I don't want to call it an idiotic take because of the holiday. I will say it is very naïve considering it was just a moment ago in American history that 14 year old girls were getting married and having babies.

Nature says, old enough to bleed, old enough to breed. Push your "morals" all you want, doesn't change reality. Bet that boy never shot a dud.
 

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I don't want to call it an idiotic take because of the holiday. I will say it is very naïve considering it was just a moment ago in American history that 14 year old girls were getting married and having babies.

Nature says, old enough to bleed, old enough to breed. Push your "morals" all you want, doesn't change reality. Bet that boy never shot a dud.

My mother, who was born in 1914, was married at age 14. Not really unusual at that time.
 

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Had this been a one time thing, I'd entertain that notion, but it didn't. Three months. This kid wasn't a victim.

I have no opinion of whether victimization occurred. My point is by what right to grown men have to assert that it did not, as to do so would be troubling in a gender reversed circumstance.

My goal to provoke thought appears widely successful. Please offer a few more comments if you would: If a 40ish man is caught in a 2-3 month sexual relationship with a 16 year old girl by your standard the child is not a victim. That means she bears as much responsibility as the man. Please explain how you justify your position.
 

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Society presents men as sexual predators and women as, at best, accomplices who must be coerced into the act lest they be labeled (*****, slut, easy).

Society presents a paradigm in which women feel that sex is indicative of emotion, whereby men are more free to have sex solely for the sake of pleasure.

Probably something to do with keeping us monogamous, which makes inbreeding less likely.

Thus, a young man is a successful young predator showing prowess - a wunderkind of some sort. A young woman would be considered a victim of manipulation for the intent of satisfying a man's carnal needs.

Sure, it's a double standard. But girls don't lie about loving boys to get sex and boys don't plan their dream wedding from the time they can walk. The genders are different, so our attitudes are too.
 
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[QUOTE="Lexie's Dad, post: 2842895, member: 1648".

Sure, it's a double standard. But girls don't lie about loving boys to get sex and boys don't plan their dream wedding from the time they can walk. The genders are different, so our attitudes are too.[/QUOTE]

Shopping. Don't forget shopping. Boys go to a dept store and head straight to the toy section if Mom lets them. Or look for candy/cookies/ice cream in a grocery. I've seen girl toddlers here already toting purses just like Mom/Nana do AND pushing those kiddie-sized "Customer in Training" shopping carts.

When I was 16 and had a chance to crush an older woman, I'd had done it willingly and told every friend/acquaintance and just guys on the street that I did. Just don't see a 16 yr female doing that.
 
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