NCAA Investigating Academic Fraud At 20 Colleges

MWes11

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Remember that academic fraud scandal at UNC, the one that revealed the term "student-athlete" to be just as hollow and fraudulent as you always assumed it was? Well, get ready to start hearing about many more scandals just like it.
Via The Chronicle of Higher Education[/I], the NCAA has announced that it is investigating allegations of academic misconduct at 20 college campuses, 18 of which are Division I schools. The NCAA has not revealed precisely which schools are being investigated, nor the exact nature of the allegations, but the The Chronicle[/I] reports that they include college athletes receiving impermissible benefits from professors and academic advisors.
No matter how egregious the various misdeeds end up being-this could be 20 cases of a few athletes having a tutor write a paper for them, or widespread institutional rot of the kind we saw in the UNC scandal-the important thing to remember is that NCAA investigations won't change anything. So long as this system continues to rest on the mind-numbingly stupid idea that education and college sports have anything to do with each other, we will be stuck in this cycle. Colleges and athletic programs will game the system; the NCAA will go scandal-hunting; wrists will be slapped; and everyone involved in the whole sham will go on lying to themselves.

http://deadspin.com/ncaa-investigating-academic-fraud-at-20-colleges-1680928515?rev=1421870771473&utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
 

Dr. H Lecter

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Just an attempt by the NCAA to diffuse the impact on UNC by now saying this is sooooooooo widespread that everyone is doing it and they will see that it stops....starting with the 2015-16 season.

They'll issue a harshly worded "tisk tisk tisk" with no sanctions at all.....because how do you penalize EVERYONE. But they will be serious about any future cases.
 

Allan Brewer

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No matter if 1000 schools are cheating and UNCheat is just one of them, the same rule applies

IT"S CHEATING!!!!

Each case gets weighed on its own merits. Some, like UNCheat are historic and game-changing with implications for championship titles and corrupted degrees. Some are going to be a kid getting an A- where a B+ was deserved.

EACH CASE MUST BE WEIGHED ON ITS OWN MERITS[/B]
 
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The NCAA is so mad at UNCheat they are going to sanction Cleavland State.......

UK, IU, Arizona, Pitt, Oregon, Alabama, Tennessee, New Mexico State, Yale, Harvard, and anyone else they can bring down in order to take the focus off of the absolute dirtiest program in the history of college sports.
 

Re2126

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Nothing to see here. Just NCAA finding away not to crush one of their favorites.
 

fuzz77

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Y'all are looking at this all wrong. UNC and any other school would be hurt much worse by having their accreditation pulled than being punished by the NCAA. As long as the SACSCOC continues to give accreditation it's difficult for the NCAA to define cheating in this fashion...it becomes a slippery slope.
Pressure needs to be put on SACS to pull their accreditation...that would hurt UNC 1000x more than having to forfeit any athletic wins.
 

DDS62

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Maybe Emmert will come down on UNC. According to this article they have
been hitting other schools with sanctions for similar infractions.
Question still remains why not hit UNC with right now? It has been
proven they have done more than required for penalties to be imposed.
Why wait for the "in depth" investigation to conclude? there isn't
anything more severe than the "Death Sentence" the NCAA can impose on a
member school, and UNC has earned that sanction twice over. Just do it
Emmert you incompetent b_______

Furthermore if Emmert has
included Kentucky in the group of 20 schools that are being investigated
I would think he should be prepared for Kentucky fans to be real real,
real real mad. I would advise him, if he hasn't already, to notify all
the schools that are being investigated with details thereof, just as
the NCAA has always done. In case he doesn't realize - nobody likes the
guy. NooooooBody
 

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If I was one of the other schools ,I'd tell the NCAA to go FO after the BS non-punishment and lollygagging at UNC,where they have been CHEATING for 60 years and the NCAA does nothing.
All schools should refuse to cooperate with and ignore the pick and choose NCAA,file suits against them using UNC CHEATERS as basis.
 

new era cat

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Originally posted by DrH. Lecter:

Just an attempt by the NCAA to diffuse the impact on UNC by now saying this is sooooooooo widespread that everyone is doing it and they will see that it stops....starting with the 2015-16 season.

They'll issue a harshly worded "tisk tisk tisk" with no sanctions at all.....because how do you penalize EVERYONE. But they will be serious about any future cases.
Good call. This is the only way UNCheats can get away with it. If at all.
 

katkraze

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academic fraud---out of control. Admitting players to elite universities under special rules, who can barely read and write---leads to huge problems to keep them eligible for the big money games.
 

Stenchymouse

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NCAA trying to water this all down to say that it's too widespread to make schools vacate wins.

They are setting this all up to excuse themselves from punishing UNC.
 

OldRed

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Originally posted by stenchymouse:
NCAA trying to water this all down to say that it's too widespread to make schools vacate wins.

They are setting this all up to excuse themselves from punishing UNC.
That is correct. Did they do this after Minnesota or Georgia? Nope....
 

Joneslab

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Originally posted by StillBlue83:
Are the schools listed somewhere? Would be interesting to see who they are.
The NCAA could really investigate 300+ D1 programs and find some level of academic fraud, but if I had to guess the schools they're looking at are places that have programs like Carolina's African-American Studies--i.e. situations where players were being funneled into certain majors or schools to keep them eligible.

At one time Kentucky had a bunch of players majoring in communications, but I'm not sure that's still the case.
 
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No body cares about North Western Wyoming Technical School...or what is going on in the lower divisions...

I imagine because of a lack of recruiting budget, and the fact that nobody really cares or pays attention to them, that rule breaking is even more common place than at the highest levels of Division 1...

I don't want to hear about Evansville putting kids into easy classes...they haven't won anything...they aren't one of the more well respected public institutions in the country...they aren't an elite athletics program...they don't have a legacy that serves as one of the great pillars of college basketball, that could possibly be built on fraud...

The NCAA does not need to try and hide UNC in a general pool of offenders from all over...they didn't do that with USC, Miami, Auburn, Ohio State, etc...they need to single the tarheels out like they did all of those schools...

At this point it is as if they are not even trying to hide their bias...they are rubbing it in our noses...they might as well just hold a press conference and go ahead and say what we all know...

"we like UNC, we don't want to touch the legacy of Dean or MJ...there are too many connections to us and the university...too many tarheels scattered about in important positions...John Skipper and ESPN pay lots of money to the NCAA in tv contracts..."
 

Lumpy 2

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In related news, in UNC's reply to SACS they sent a chart detailing the fraudulent classes. That chart showed the cheating started during the 89-90 school year, 3 years earlier than what the Wainstein report stated.
 

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Originally posted by Lumpy 2:
In related news, in UNC's reply to SACS they sent a chart detailing the fraudulent classes. That chart showed the cheating started during the 89-90 school year, 3 years earlier than what the Wainstein report stated.
I happen to know through 2nd hand knowledge from close family members that they have been giving athletes special treatment and privileges since the 1950's
 

Blueworld_3.0

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I've said all along that UNC will not be penalized anywhere as severely as some seem to think. They'll get a 2 year reduction in scholarships and maybe...maybe...a one year post-season ban. There's just too much money at stake. And money always trumps integrity when it comes to the NCAA.
The NCAA doesn't frighten anyone any more. Their monopoly on major college athletics is hanging by a thread. Within 10 years the NCAA as we know it now may not even exist, let alone be a sanctioning body.
Things are changing and people like Emmert will be being pushed aside in a fairly unceremonious way very soon.
 

KMKAT

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So a blanketing of school indescretions come up (which should include Southern Miss) and yet, after 3 months of reopening a case, the NCAA has not come to any conclusion against UNC? After all the work the Wainstein report spelled out?

The entire ACC should be appalled at what UNC is doing, yet you hear nothing from any of them publically. Time to take the cat out of the bag for good and these ACC schools should step up and acknowledge their unfair advantage in recruiting athletes to come to Chapel Hill.
 

preacherfan

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Originally posted by Joneslab:



Originally posted by StillBlue83:
Are the schools listed somewhere? Would be interesting to see who they are.
The NCAA could really investigate 300+ D1 programs and find some level of academic fraud, but if I had to guess the schools they're looking at are places that have programs like Carolina's African-American Studies--i.e. situations where players were being funneled into certain majors or schools to keep them eligible.

At one time Kentucky had a bunch of players majoring in communications, but I'm not sure that's still the case.
Communications is a good major for many players simply because they learn how to speak and communicate, which is relevant for many of them. AFAM could make sense but, apparently, it really doesn't.
 

SLONER67

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Originally posted by stenchymouse:
NCAA trying to water this all down to say that it's too widespread to make schools vacate wins.

They are setting this all up to excuse themselves from punishing UNC.
If the NCAA insists on not doing anything substantial to UNC with the "everybody does it" argument then they better plan on giving back everything they took from UMass and Memphis and other schools in short order. Anything short of this or lowering the boom on UNC heavily will completely discredit whatever the NCAA has ever "allegedly" stood for.
 
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Originally posted by truebluewildcat:

No body cares about North Western Wyoming Technical School...or what is going on in the lower divisions...

I imagine because of a lack of recruiting budget, and the fact that nobody really cares or pays attention to them, that rule breaking is even more common place than at the highest levels of Division 1...

I don't want to hear about Evansville putting kids into easy classes...they haven't won anything...they aren't one of the more well respected public institutions in the country...they aren't an elite athletics program...they don't have a legacy that serves as one of the great pillars of college basketball, that could possibly be built on fraud...

The NCAA does not need to try and hide UNC in a general pool of offenders from all over...they didn't do that with USC, Miami, Auburn, Ohio State, etc...they need to single the tarheels out like they did all of those schools...

At this point it is as if they are not even trying to hide their bias...they are rubbing it in our noses...they might as well just hold a press conference and go ahead and say what we all know...

"we like UNC, we don't want to touch the legacy of Dean or MJ...there are too many connections to us and the university...too many tarheels scattered about in important positions...John Skipper and ESPN pay lots of money to the NCAA in tv contracts..."
THIS X 1,000!!!!

I am amazed at the double standard afforded UNC on this matter. I am sick and tired of the NCAA!! Certain schools(UNC, DUKE,) have autonomy and others have conviction!!
 

moe#8

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Originally posted by stenchymouse:
NCAA trying to water this all down to say that it's too widespread to make schools vacate wins.

They are setting this all up to excuse themselves from punishing UNC.
very damn true. I hate the NCAA and wish congress would investigate them. very little will be done to unc***
 

UKMallard86

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If the NCAA does not vacate wins from UNC then other schools should have their wins reinstated. Look at Memphis... NCAA clears Rose then comes back later and vacates the season. Complete BS
 

sonnyg333

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The Ncaa is looking at a way to deal with UNC that won't effect them much. Finding wide spread fraud would give them a new rule and a OUT for UNC.