Neal Brown addresses who will handle calling the plays this year

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He was an OC/QB coach at Troy, Texas Tech and Kentucky. Before becoming HC at Troy then WVU.

I guess he became overly cautious after becoming HC.
 

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-He was an OC/QB coach at Troy, Texas Tech and Kentucky. Before becoming HC at Troy then WVU.

I guess he became overly cautious after becoming HC.
It will be interesting when Dana and Neal match wits against each other. This won't be the 1st time Neal called plays for Tech the 1st year Wvu played tech. Tech won 49-14 and since everyone has told us how terrible Neal is we should have known the Holgorsen regime was destined to crap out.
 

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Is this the same NB that punted on 4th and 1 at Pitt? Sure hope he has grown a “Set” this year!
Maybe this & maybe that - but
Bryce Ford-Wheaton blew that game.

That deflection pick6 to Pitt defender ultimately ended that Pitt game.

Instead of needing a West Virginia Vivian, it might be prudent to support West Virginia especially in mid summer July.

Ps...recently saw that Pitt game on ESPNU
 

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Maybe this & maybe that - but
Bryce Ford-Wheaton blew that game.

That deflection pick6 to Pitt defender ultimately ended that Pitt game.

Instead of needing a West Virginia Vivian, it might be prudent to support West Virginia especially in mid summer July.

Ps...recently saw that Pitt game on ESPNU
 

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Yes that was the nail in the coffin. Without NB’s not willing to go for the few inches necessary, WVU would not find themselves having to play catch up (game was tied at the time of the pick six). Would rather blame NB than BFW. Granted the few inches were not a gimme but IMO that was the game braker. Sorry I think his play calling “stinks”
 
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I feel like recent OC’s that have been to Morgantown always became hesitant/apprehensive/passive in their play calling. Spavital even became a bit less aggressive in his play calling…and he had Grier > Sills. Harrell wasn’t the play caller he’s known to be, not sure if that was NB’s doing or what. It’s just odd that we got watered down versions. Spav wasn’t as bad. The offense made him look a lot better thankfully.
 

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Neal has heard a lot of criticism and I think he will try to be less conservative and open it up a bit more than usual. I hope he has a great season, but not because I want WVU to keep him. I still want to find the right coach, but it would be best for all parties if Neal had his best season at WVU this season. I expect 5-7 and that wont change, but I hope its 7 and not 5. For me to want to keep him around any longer, it will take 10 wins.
 

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His fate is in his hands. That's where he wants it.

If you are going to lose (games, your job, etc.) go down swinging with it all on your shoulders. That way, you can sleep at night knowing the results are all on you.
 

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Yes that was the nail in the coffin. Without NB’s not willing to go for the few inches necessary, WVU would not find themselves having to play catch up (game was tied at the time of the pick six). Would rather blame NB than BFW. Granted the few inches were not a gimme but IMO that was the game braker. Sorry I think his play calling “stinks”
That's because you haven't graduated from checkers.
 

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I feel like recent OC’s that have been to Morgantown always became hesitant/apprehensive/passive in their play calling. Spavital even became a bit less aggressive in his play calling…and he had Grier > Sills. Harrell wasn’t the play caller he’s known to be, not sure if that was NB’s doing or what. It’s just odd that we got watered down versions. Spav wasn’t as bad. The offense made him look a lot better thankfully.
WVU historically runs a conservative offense. It's in the school's DNA.
 

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Neal has heard a lot of criticism and I think he will try to be less conservative and open it up a bit more than usual. I hope he has a great season, but not because I want WVU to keep him. I still want to find the right coach, but it would be best for all parties if Neal had his best season at WVU this season. I expect 5-7 and that wont change, but I hope its 7 and not 5. For me to want to keep him around any longer, it will take 10 wins.
You do understand that a run centric offense is by nature more conservative than the over rated "open it up" passing oriented offense?
 

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You do understand that a run centric offense is by nature more conservative than the over rated "open it up" passing oriented offense?

I understand the common thought on that but dont really agree with it. Rich Rod's run offense was way more aggressive than Neal's air raid. We passed a lot so far with Neal, but he is still slow paced and boring even with the air raid. Open it up was not a good choice or words really because it sounds like passing it more. Its other things. We all know he has to go for it when the game is on the line and thats one thing he has to be less conservative with. But otherwise just pick up the pace in general, spread the defense out and use the run to set up the pass with the talent we have. Both Greene and Nicco can pass but I think we have the talent to pick up big chunks of yards in the run game with Greene and our RB's. And we could have a Tavon like weapon with the kid from Uniontown. We can be explosive and still be run focused. Neal first of all could set a more aggressive mindset in the locker room and learn how to get the team fired up. Those are the areas he lacks in, and why I dont think he will ever truly succeed here.
 

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Spread option always bogs down in the red zone.
Perhaps it does but it has served us much better than the air raid, especially Neal's version. Even Dana, had his best and only 10 win season when he went with a run option because of Howard's abilities and limitations. It worked well enough to have his best season.
 

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Perhaps it does but it has served us much better than the air raid, especially Neal's version. Even Dana, had his best and only 10 win season when he went with a run option because of Howard's abilities and limitations. It worked well enough to have his best season.
That and weak *** schedule didn't hurt. Dana is the one that brought the air raid offense. Air raid doesn't always mean air only.

Holgorsen switched changed certain air raid principles, while combining it with another offensive scheme, such as the west coast offense.

Lot of Hal Mumme and Mike Leach disciples have done this change because they recognize the importance of the run game.

Searched out Western Kentucky and Holgorsen schemes and got this info.

I'm not sure what type offense Neal is running or wanting to run because it changes constantly with him. Mostly because lack of talent at key positions.
 

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That and weak *** schedule didn't hurt. Dana is the one that brought the air raid offense. Air raid doesn't always mean air only.

Holgorsen switched changed certain air raid principles, while combining it with another offensive scheme, such as the west coast offense.

Lot of Hal Mumme and Mike Leach disciples have done this change because they recognize the importance of the run game.

Searched out Western Kentucky and Holgorsen schemes and got this info.

I'm not sure what type offense Neal is running or wanting to run because it changes constantly with him. Mostly because lack of talent at key positions.
I dont either I just know it hasn't been good, and I'll be glad when its over. I dont think it really matters as much about the types of plays being called with Neal. It is other things like the pace and attitude/identity of the offense, or lack thereof. I feel like the media putting such low expectations might help our team play a little harder with a chip on their shoulder this year, but its because of all the negative press, not because Neal instills that in his team. He lacks the edge and attitude for what we need at WVU to be able to compete in the B12. This year might be a little different, but thats because the media pissed his team off
 

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Not even close to being accurate...but it did come the Caped One.
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Rodriguez zone read was the best.

The offense running the last 15 years are big play offenses. These big plays have not existed under Brown.

Not even close, right.

 

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2009 - 63
2008 - 119
2007 - 24
2006 - 15
2005 - 13
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2003 - 18

Rodriguez zone read was the best.

The offense running the last 15 years are big play offenses. These big plays have not existed under Brown.

Not even close, right.

 

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If Neal Brown won 10 games a year for the next 4 years he’d be virtually tied with Holgerson.
Holgerson drank his way out of Morgantown & threw temper tantrums didn't help, his overall influence.

West Virginia was Not going to give a
$ 4 million dollar per year
coach a pay raise.
 

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Brown made $800,000 at Troy. So we paid an $800k coach 4 million. Lol.
Don't think NB was paid $4 million per year, initially.
Believe Shane upped NB to $4 million per season.

Yes of course, winning solves everything but for most NB haters, you'll have to wait unless you personally have around $16 million to fire & replace NB
- NB will be coaching at WVU for a few years.

Might as well support WVU,
might as well support NB.

Ps.. in the strange world of guarantees,
it should be noted NB at least earned his money - more than Mr MaGoo did.

It's much harder to manage 120 football players & coaches then to manage approx 20 basketball players & coaches.

Over & over & Over Again
 
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2022 - 19
2021 - 8
2020 - 31
2019 - 113
2018 - 100
2017 - 63
2016 - 83
2015 - 88
2014 - 71
2013 - 74
2012 - 59
2011 - 8
2010 - 103
2009 - 63
2008 - 119
2007 - 24
2006 - 15
2005 - 13
2004 - 13
2003 - 18

Rodriguez zone read was the best.

The offense running the last 15 years are big play offenses. These big plays have not existed under Brown.

Not even close, right.


Your answer has nothing to do with your uneducated original post. Impressive attempt to redirect though. You must make Nancy Pelosi really proud!
 

Rootmaster

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Don't think NB was paid $4 million per year, initially.
Believe Shane upped NB to $4 million per season.

Yes of course, winning solves everything but for most NB haters, you'll have to wait unless you personally have around $16 million to fire & replace NB
- NB will be coaching at WVU for a few years.

Might as well support WVU,
might as well support NB.

Ps.. in the strange world of guarantees,
it should be noted NB at least earned his money - more than Mr MaGoo did.

It's much harder to manage 120 football players & coaches then to manage approx 20 basketball players & coaches.

Over & over & Over Again
Not at WVU.
 

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My take on NB calling plays and managing the game is the same recipe for disaster as seen in 2021. Also the fact that he would yank Greene as soon as the first incomplete pass or wrong read on QB. Option but Doege (?) could screw up multiple times and would get a pat on the shoulder (please take this with a grain of salt) l am pulling for NB because l want WVU to have a winning season. But his record as OC speaks for its self,