Needed D Bad Last Drive

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Still lacking a play making D that is needed to win these types of games against the big boys in this league. Not that they played bad today, they just didn't have the juice to close it out...

I'm not sure what it is. Talent, depth, a lack of a play maker and/or leader, play calling maybe...

UGA dinked n dunked their way to a field goal. After Eason completed those first two passes that last drive I knew it was over.

They ran the same pass play to both sides...quick little sideline toss...

Hopefully they come out like pissed off hornets next week at UT...gonna need the game of their lives...in for a junk yard dog fight...
 

katwest

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That's what bothers me the most, the way they run down the field on us, way too easy. I have seen Kentucky lose so many games like this and knew it was coming, that's why people are criticizing the play selection on the first and goal. We left them to much time to only need a field goal to win and they just walked over us the last minute. Knowing whats coming and can't stop it hurts when you have seen it forever.
 

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The defense was probably gassed at that point. They were on the field almost every few minutes in the 2nd half. Any defense would have gotten wore out.

Honestly I think the D played fine for most of the game. They did enough for us to win. The offense lost the game for us, especially the WRs.
 

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Still lacking a play making D that is needed to win these types of games against the big boys in this league. Not that they played bad today, they just didn't have the juice to close it out...

I'm not sure what it is. Talent, depth, a lack of a play maker and/or leader, play calling maybe...

UGA dinked n dunked their way to a field goal. After Eason completed those first two passes that last drive I knew it was over.

They ran the same pass play to both sides...quick little sideline toss...

Hopefully they come out like pissed off hornets next week at UT...gonna need the game of their lives...in for a junk yard dog fight...

I think the corners need to play more press coverage than prevent in those last drive situations
 

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I think the corners need to play more press coverage than prevent in those last drive situations


I think you and Levi should post this in more threads...


We have not been a good end of game defense for a long while now.
 

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Back 7 is good enough to not get destroyed. DL is probably one of the worst in the country. That unit has single-handedly kept the team from taking the next step.
 

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Back 7 is good enough to not get destroyed. DL is probably one of the worst in the country. That unit has single-handedly kept the team from taking the next step.

To be fair to them, there were some blatant holds by Georgia's OL tonight. Everyone saw it...even from hundreds of feet away in the stands it was obvious. A couple sacks here and there can change a game completely.
 

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But I do agree with the overall point that we can't stop any offenses in desperation mode. They all seem to be able to march it on us. Even Vanderbilt did it, for crying out loud.
 

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To be fair to them, there were some blatant holds by Georgia's OL tonight. Everyone saw it...even from hundreds of feet away in the stands it was obvious. A couple sacks here and there can change a game completely.

First I want to say this game was a tight game played by 2 evenly matched teams. Maybe the refs missed a hold on the last drive, but they also missed a motion by UK's right tackle on the goal line when Shell scored after it was replayed a couple of times, it was as blatant as any hold they missed on either team, which they can call every play.

SEC East has at least 5 teams who are fairly evenly matched and could play each other consecutive Saturdays and have a different winner each week, heck maybe the entire division might be that way. There is no team that anyone can say is clearly better than all the others.. Last night UGA was ahead when it ended, we play again next Saturday UK could easily be ahead when it ended,
 

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First I want to say this game was a tight game played by 2 evenly matched teams. Maybe the refs missed a hold on the last drive, but they also missed a motion by UK's right tackle on the goal line when Shell scored after it was replayed a couple of times, it was as blatant as any hold they missed on either team, which they can call every play.

SEC East has at least 5 teams who are fairly evenly matched and could play each other consecutive Saturdays and have a different winner each week, heck maybe the entire division might be that way. There is no team that anyone can say is clearly better than all the others.. Last night UGA was ahead when it ended, we play again next Saturday UK could easily be ahead when it ended,

I do hate to sound like a whiner so I'll tell you that the reasons I mentioned in another thread are the TRUE reasons I think UK lost.

1) QB play - just not confident and not enough of a credible threat tonight
2) WR mistakes - drops are one thing...giving the ball away is another
3) Inability of the DL and LBs to stop a motivated Chubb/Michel - I wasn't surprised to see them step up tonight
4) Coaches - some poor calls in key moments

Georgia was not an unrightful winner tonight. UK blew a ton of chances at it and really has only themselves to blame.
 
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Grumpyolddawg

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I do hate to sound like a whiner so I'll tell you that the reasons I mentioned in another thread are the TRUE reasons I think UK lost.

1) QB play - just not confident and not enough of a credible threat tonight
2) WR mistakes - drops are one thing...giving the ball away is another
3) Inability of the DL and LBs to stop a motivated Chubb/Michel - I wasn't surprised to see them step up tonight
4) Coaches - some poor calls in key moments

Georgia was not an unrightful winner tonight. UK blew a ton of chances at it and really has only themselves to blame.

This is easy to say now, and it might upset some but that isn't the intention. UK, UGA, USC, Vandy, and Missouri to an extent aren't great teams, they are evenly matched. I am not sure UT and UF don't fit in with this group either. All have some strengths, but all have some glaring weaknesses, it just depends on who takes advantage of those weaknesses that particular night who comes out on top. I know its a bitter pill to take, but it was a good competitive game that we happened to be ahead when it ended, it could have easily went the other way, as many of the games among the teams I mentioned could have. Good luck rest of the way. Peace
 

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This is easy to say now, and it might upset some but that isn't the intention. UK, UGA, USC, Vandy, and Missouri to an extent aren't great teams, they are evenly matched. I am not sure UT and UF don't fit in with this group either. All have some strengths, but all have some glaring weaknesses, it just depends on who takes advantage of those weaknesses that particular night who comes out on top. I know its a bitter pill to take, but it was a good competitive game that we happened to be ahead when it ended, it could have easily went the other way, as many of the games among the teams I mentioned could have. Good luck rest of the way. Peace

Most certainly...all the teams in the SEC East are severely flawed. And have been for years now. But we also know that the available-talent pecking order in our division is roughly as follows:

1) Florida
2) Georgia
(significant gap)
3 and 4) Tennessee and South Carolina
(significant gap)
5 and 6) Kentucky and Missouri
(significant gap)
7) Vanderbilt

In other words, it isn't a surprise to lose to a team like Georgia, even in a down year for you guys. You have a lot more talent! It's just frustrating that we can't pull out some of these close games even a LITTLE bit more often.
 

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Most certainly...all the teams in the SEC East are severely flawed. And have been for years now. But we also know that the available-talent pecking order in our division is roughly as follows:

1) Florida
2) Georgia
(significant gap)
3 and 4) Tennessee and South Carolina
(significant gap)
5 and 6) Kentucky and Missouri
(significant gap)
7) Vanderbilt

In other words, it isn't a surprise to lose to a team like Georgia, even in a down year for you guys. You have a lot more talent! It's just frustrating that we can't pull out some of these close games even a LITTLE bit more often.
How do you rank South Carolina ahead of Kentucky. We did beat them head to head you know. We have beaten them the last three seasons.
 

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This is easy to say now, and it might upset some but that isn't the intention. UK, UGA, USC, Vandy, and Missouri to an extent aren't great teams, they are evenly matched. I am not sure UT and UF don't fit in with this group either. All have some strengths, but all have some glaring weaknesses, it just depends on who takes advantage of those weaknesses that particular night who comes out on top. I know its a bitter pill to take, but it was a good competitive game that we happened to be ahead when it ended, it could have easily went the other way, as many of the games among the teams I mentioned could have. Good luck rest of the way. Peace

Sound thinking (and sometimes it has to come from a fan of another team).

- It is hard to hear fans argue UK has made no legit progress even though we have a bowl in our hands when you hear "all we've done is beat bad teams". If we'd had beaten UGA and Austin Peay and gone on to lose to UT and UL, to those fans UGA would have just been another bad team we beat.
- Sure SEC East is down...but UK would not have run the ball as we've done this year at any of those teams the last 2 years. And letting Towles throw it around would have had a bunch of Ints and 3-outs and UK would not have won 4 SEC games with the last 2 years offensive teams.
 

Grumpyolddawg

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Sound thinking (and sometimes it has to come from a fan of another team).

- It is hard to hear fans argue UK has made no legit progress even though we have a bowl in our hands when you hear "all we've done is beat bad teams". If we'd had beaten UGA and Austin Peay and gone on to lose to UT and UL, to those fans UGA would have just been another bad team we beat.
- Sure SEC East is down...but UK would not have run the ball as we've done this year at any of those teams the last 2 years. And letting Towles throw it around would have had a bunch of Ints and 3-outs and UK would not have won 4 SEC games with the last 2 years offensive teams.

That's not exactly what I mean, UK has improved quite a bit the last 4 years. But the issue is with the division, not UK or any other team individually. East is just a mess right now, other than the UF and Missouri games, UK's SEC games have been 1 score games which means any single play could have changed the outcomes, and the same can be said for just about every other team in the East, their wins have been 1 score wins and a single play could have changed all of those too. Right now the SEC east is just down and anyone of the teams can beat each other any given week, there isn't a strong team in this half of the conference. One reason is I don't think any of the East teams are buying kids and I can't say that for the teams in the West.
 
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First I want to say this game was a tight game played by 2 evenly matched teams. Maybe the refs missed a hold on the last drive, but they also missed a motion by UK's right tackle on the goal line when Shell scored after it was replayed a couple of times, it was as blatant as any hold they missed on either team, which they can call every play.

SEC East has at least 5 teams who are fairly evenly matched and could play each other consecutive Saturdays and have a different winner each week, heck maybe the entire division might be that way. There is no team that anyone can say is clearly better than all the others.. Last night UGA was ahead when it ended, we play again next Saturday UK could easily be ahead when it ended,

It is indeed quite remarkable how the east is really anybody's to grab. I mean look what Mizzou did a few years back, and look at Vandy who was competitive under franklin and is really tough as nails now, and UK until last night was in a position to maybe go to Atlanta should we win out and Fla lose to LSU.

Things do seem to boil down do the last quarter or even who has the ball last, and that is where the talent gap shows up.

Even though it might not be obvious in the final score or even stat lines, it shows up in crunch time, it shows up in the final result.

UK and UGA may seem pretty even overall this year because UGA is by all accounts down and has been for a couple years while UK has been slowly ascending in terms of recruiting. However, it is still very apparent, especially on defense, that UK just doesn't have the playmakers, athletes, and depth.

UGA was able to sack up near the end and not let one of the better rushing attacks in the conference in for 6.

UK's D gave way to a game winning drive.

Those are the types of situations that really tell you where your program is. Yes, UK is on the uptick and was riding a pretty good wave of momentum, but UGA even with a new coach during a transition period was able to make a stand and then go on a drive when it counted.

I mean Eason picked us apart like he was a veteran, 4-4. I thought our secondary was supposed to be a bright spot this year with big, athletic corners. They were burned with basically the same play, and everybody knew it was coming that last possession, because it's a pretty tried n true strategy for that situation. Dink left, dunk right, and a couple pretty straight forward runs. UGA staff was not going to have Eason throw bombs or do anything complex.

I was riding the high like everyone else with the success the past few weeks, but that last drive brought everything back into focus.

Against an upper echelon program, even though they are having a down year, UK was out played, out athleted, and out coached when it mattered most.
 
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The defense was probably gassed at that point. They were on the field almost every few minutes in the 2nd half. Any defense would have gotten wore out.

Honestly I think the D played fine for most of the game. They did enough for us to win. The offense lost the game for us, especially the WRs.
Especially that punk jeff
 

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How do you rank South Carolina ahead of Kentucky. We did beat them head to head you know. We have beaten them the last three seasons.


The Gamecock team UK beat isn't the same team they are now. When the cats won Jake Bentley was still possible red shirt and they were down two stud receivers and breakout RB. Carolina I think has been averaging close to 30ppg from 14 the past 3 weeks.

Man I was really disappointed UK didn't best GA last night. I'm not impressed with GA at all...inept offensively and just all around overrated. Kentucky should have absolutely won last night.
 
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CapnBlubs

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How do you rank South Carolina ahead of Kentucky. We did beat them head to head you know. We have beaten them the last three seasons.

Yep, and no one's happier about that than I am. But according to a map of the country with current NFL players produced by each state, it's:

Florida 193
Georgia 97
South Carolina 48
Tennessee 34
Missouri 27
Kentucky 13

So...I was right. Their state does have a lot more talent available.
 
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Grumpyolddawg

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Been my take all season!!!

UK has an intimidating pair of CBs, but like all DBs they have one area that gives them trouble. UK's CBs are very good at covering deep routes across the field and the bigger receivers. Their weakness is the smaller type receivers who can break off routes, run the hitches and curls. Being 6'4" and 6'3" is great against fades, deep routes, but that sudden stop or turn gives them problems, physics just doesn't allow them to do it as quickly as the smaller guys and on the final drive that's what we attacked.