NIL Issues Being Reported

mountaineermaniac34

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The most captain obvious of issues:

NIL is pushing players into the portal due to “money not being paid as promised or being paid in a timely manner, jealously among teammates (you don’t say), and talented teams starting to fall apart”

So…is the NIL really to blame here?
 

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Yes and no.

NCAA should have had regulation set up that did not allow NIL to be a recruiting tool. That is not what it was intended for. They can't really say a player can make such and such with his own use of his name imagine and likeness. But they could have stopped the crap going on now. Greed and loopholes have always been an issue.

Perhaps NCAA should just go ahead and pay the players all the same amount and be done with it.
 

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Why should we even care about whinny semi talented teenagers? Really. College sports are gone.
I tend to agree. I’ve said this before but I’ll say it again. I used to get absolutely stoked for football season, now I still watch but with much less enthusiasm.
 

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Remove the scholarships from sports! Pay the players a set amount per sport and let them pay their own way to school. Simple and easy.
That could lead to the next step of why do I have to attend school. Thus minor leagues will be born.

But yes I agree. But that still would not stop NIL
 

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I’m curious about the whole structure. The fact that the promises are not coming through it’s not overly surprising, but you would think there would be some type of contractual agreement in place that would specifically state if a player were to transfer before a specific date then they would not be entitled to XYZ….

Ask for the locker room situation, that was a taking Time bomb. I can only imagine how that was exacerbated even win players were getting paid before it was legal lol. It’s good for a little while to have something in place where everybody got paid the same, but it’s just a matter of time before they find out they can make more. i.e. Mesidor.

The only thing that could actually save college football and mind in at this point is automatic bids for conference champions. It’s significantly harder for Cinderella team to have that epic year, but at least there is a chance. Hey we beat Kentucky in the tournament when they were getting paid!

It’s going to take a coach with attributes that have not exactly been identified yet in my opinion. Obviously the coach that we have now black certain attributes from a personnel decision ability.

I think you’re going to see more and more of the stands empty after the first couple of games across the nation.
 

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They should have a universal NIL fund combined for all schools. Then the NCAA should set pay guidelines based on talent levels much like the NFL. Then players can perform their way into better pay and schools wont have such a massive advantage over others. There would not be such incentive to transfer. Would level the playing field a bit. When everyone else is paid by the schools and conferences- you cant say the players dont deserve the ability to make a living though.
 

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The most captain obvious in all of this, is that teams like WVU are pretty much pushed out of the chance at winning a national championship in football. Basketball is a different story though, or at least is for now. Maybe in 2024, WVU can have at least a shot a maybe getting into a playoff spot, but with the rich getting richer, winning four games in a row in a college football playoff is going to be damn near impossible.
 

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If they want to be like NFL then cut scholarships down to 58 instead of 85. The NFL game-day roster was expanded from 53 to 55 players.
 

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If they want to be like NFL then cut scholarships down to 58 instead of 85. The NFL game-day roster was expanded from 53 to 55 players.
Reducing roster size is bound to happen, particularly once the schools have to give the players a portion of their revenue. This whole thing will probably be unwatchable in a few more years, just like the NFL is for me now. I can't remember the last time I was anxiously awaiting the start of an NFL game. Probably back when SammyK started kneeling.
 

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The most captain obvious in all of this, is that teams like WVU are pretty much pushed out of the chance at winning a national championship in football. Basketball is a different story though, or at least is for now. Maybe in 2024, WVU can have at least a shot a maybe getting into a playoff spot, but with the rich getting richer, winning four games in a row in a college football playoff is going to be damn near impossible.
The first step in the rich getting richer process was the 4-team playoff controlled solely by humans and ESPN. There is not a qualification to make the playoffs currently. Cincinnati had to have two undefeated seasons a numerous dominos to fall. UCF was a very dangerous team and could have put the “blood bloods” on their ***. This was the constant in the BCS. Blue bloods getting schooled on the big stage.


Now the CFP has started to tighten up. The next step, pay the players. No salary cap, No penalties for tampering, no rules. Since the NCAA is totally useless as you can see for the harsh penalties for Arizona and Kansas, this thing is wide open. The New York Yankees could afford the best players that Monica bar without a salary cap and dominated. This will be the same thing. And now if there appears to be a potential changing of the guard, the players leave and follow the money
 

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The first step in the rich getting richer process was the 4-team playoff controlled solely by humans and ESPN. There is not a qualification to make the playoffs currently. Cincinnati had to have two undefeated seasons a numerous dominos to fall. UCF was a very dangerous team and could have put the “blood bloods” on their ***. This was the constant in the BCS. Blue bloods getting schooled on the big stage.


Now the CFP has started to tighten up. The next step, pay the players. No salary cap, No penalties for tampering, no rules. Since the NCAA is totally useless as you can see for the harsh penalties for Arizona and Kansas, this thing is wide open. The New York Yankees could afford the best players that Monica bar without a salary cap and dominated. This will be the same thing. And now if there appears to be a potential changing of the guard, the players leave and follow the money
12 team playoff coming so SEC and Big 10 can get 4 each in. The rest will be money games for the peasants that will surely lose.
 

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So they want free education, free food, free room and board, free healthcare, a salary, NIL and unionization to strike whenever they damn well please. I guess that means if they don't meet expectations you could fire them.

If they win this they need no part of college life or athletics at the schools. Universities should charge them for the use of their name. Talk about a huge savings for colleges. Stop the athletic program and get back to education.

Bohannon, who now plays professionally for the G League's Iowa Wolves, called Thursday's decision an "important step toward much needed change.

"I am clearly an employee as a G League basketball player, and I'm doing the same thing I was doing just months ago for the University of Iowa. The difference is that I now have employee rights under labor law and protections under a collective bargaining agreement," Bohannon said in a statement. "NCAA sports has used the words 'student-athlete' and 'amateurism' to skirt labor laws and deny generations of college athletes fair treatment."

What's next Bohannon? Unions for High School athletes and middle school athletes. After all when they're in college they will be doing the same things as they did in high school. What's next grade school pee-wee teams as employees of the county or state?
 
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Simple- If you want to go to college this is what we are offering! Tuition, room and Board, medical care, travel to and from events, training facilities and coaching. If you don't, let the Pro leagues offer their own minor leagues like baseball and basketball technically do. You now have choices. You can be a student or an employee of a pro league.

Many baseball players would love to go back to college instead of the minor leagues.