No better time to have another UAP discussion What say ye?

[ApexLion]

I'm always fascinated by these articles when someone who claims they worked for NASA comes forward. I believe he's saying he was a contractor for a NGO but NASA has knowledge of objects from outer space?

What do you make of this article?

Ex-NASA engineer claims trillions of shape-shifting, cloaked devices are hidden across Earth

@Zenophile @Midnighter

 

[Midnighter]

I'm always fascinated by these articles when someone who claims they worked for NASA comes forward. I believe he's saying he was a contractor for a NGO but NASA has knowledge of objects from outer space?

What do you make of this article?

Ex-NASA engineer claims trillions of shape-shifting, cloaked devices are hidden across Earth

@Zenophile @Midnighter

Know two friends who work for NASA. Will get back to you…

 

[VicVaselino]

LOL, my wife has been shape-shifting for over fifty years.

 

[Tgar]

Tgar and @Steve JG witnessed one of these triangle crafts blasting over the Potomac one night back in 78/ 79 at 2:00am on the way home from the Neil Young “ Rust Never Sleeps “ tour.

it was not normal, it was fast, evasive, triangular with lights on the silhouette. We both thought it was Bad ***.

We were driving back into DC on 295 headed north toward the city and this thing materialized out of nowhere. Total bonus to a killer Show by Neil and Crazy Horse.

 

[VicVaselino]

Okay, here's the deal. The universe has a speed limit. They can't get here from there.

Live with it.

 

[PSU Mike]

Know two friends who work for NASA. Will get back to you…

My roomie in Crystal City later did a stint as NASA CFO.

 

[PSU Mike]

I mean it’s not hard to believe. I can cite numerous occasions when after a night of drinking I’ve taken thin girls home only to wake to something akin to a cow hippo. I have to imagine a sliver of metal could do it much more covertly.

 

[Zenophile]

Okay, here's the deal. The universe has a speed limit. They can't get here from there.

Live with it.

1. The universe has a speed limit we currently can't break. That doesn’t mean someone else—millions or billions of years ahead in development—couldn’t. It’s a bit like a horse rider telling an F-22 pilot that flight is impossible.
2. I have yet to see a serious researcher in this space claim to know the origin of the phenomenon, which means the “Martians amirite?” crowd are the strawman champions of the internet.

 

[LionJim]

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1. The universe has a speed limit we currently can't break. That doesn’t mean someone else—millions or billions of years ahead in development—couldn’t. It’s a bit like a horse rider telling an F-22 pilot that flight is impossible.

the universe has a speed limit because mass is equivalent to energy and there is a finite amount of mass in the universe, thus a finite amount of energy. To accelerate something to a speed greater than light would require an infinite amount of energy.

Fun Google: Eddington’s number.

 

[BobPSU92]

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the universe has a speed limit because mass is equivalent to energy and there is a finite amount of mass in the universe, thus a finite amount of energy. To accelerate something to a speed greater than light would require an infinite amount of energy.

Fun Google: Eddington’s number.

Stop making stuff up.

 

[SleepyLion]

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the universe has a speed limit because mass is equivalent to energy and there is a finite amount of mass in the universe, thus a finite amount of energy. To accelerate something to a speed greater than light would require an infinite amount of energy.

Fun Google: Eddington’s number.

So, reading about Eddington's number took me to here...

Dirac large numbers hypothesis - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The mass of the universe is proportional to the square of the universe's age:
M ∝ t^2

So, is the mass of the universe finite if it grows based on the age of the universe?

It is very possible I do not understand this at all.

 

[BobPSU92]

If I put on weight, shouldn’t I be able to run faster?

 

[SleepyLion]

If I put on weight, shouldn’t I be able to run faster?

Of course... or maybe not.
Have another scone and then record your 40 time.

 

[Zenophile]

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the universe has a speed limit because mass is equivalent to energy and there is a finite amount of mass in the universe, thus a finite amount of energy. To accelerate something to a speed greater than light would require an infinite amount of energy.

Fun Google: Eddington’s number.

I know better than to argue math with a pro, kind sir. I think the below passage is interesting.

According to all observations and current scientific theories, matter travels at slower-than-light (subluminal) speed with respect to the locally distorted spacetime region. Speculative faster-than-light concepts include the Alcubierre drive, Krasnikov tubes, traversable wormholes, and quantum tunneling.[1][2] Some of these proposals find loopholes around general relativity, such as by expanding or contracting space to make the object appear to be travelling greater than c. Such proposals are still widely believed to be impossible as they still violate current understandings of causality, and they all require fanciful mechanisms to work (such as requiring exotic matter).​

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Gotta ask….what about “instantaneous” reactions between quantum entangled particles separated at great distance?

 

[LionJim]

Gotta ask….what about “instantaneous” reactions between quantum entangled particles separated at great distance?

It’s a thing, has been experimentally verified. How it relates to accelerating matter to the speed of light, that’s above my pay grade.

Same thing with the Twin Paradox, the faster you travel the slower time runs for you. This also been experimentally verified.

 

[ApexLion]

Let's toss this into the mix:

Lawmaker: "heard about proof'

 

[ApexLion]

Gotta ask….what about “instantaneous” reactions between quantum entangled particles separated at great distance?

That may be a question for:


Currently working as the Deputy Project Scientists for the Infrared Survey Explorer, Amy Mainzer has made several television appearances over the past few years discussing asteroids and stars. Having gained a PhD in Astronomy from UCLA, she has also worked as the Principal Investigator for the NEOWISE project that studies minor planets. Frequent viewers of the History Channel are likely to have seen her on TV as she is a recurring collaborator.

 

[[email protected]]

That may be a question for:

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Currently working as the Deputy Project Scientists for the Infrared Survey Explorer, Amy Mainzer has made several television appearances over the past few years discussing asteroids and stars. Having gained a PhD in Astronomy from UCLA, she has also worked as the Principal Investigator for the NEOWISE project that studies minor planets. Frequent viewers of the History Channel are likely to have seen her on TV as she is a recurring collaborator.

I will admit that I had an instantaneous reaction to this post.

 

[slwlion01]

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the universe has a speed limit because mass is equivalent to energy and there is a finite amount of mass in the universe, thus a finite amount of energy. To accelerate something to a speed greater than light would require an infinite amount of energy.

Fun Google: Eddington’s number.

Damn, I just wish my little Buick Envista would accelerate to 60 faster.

 

[Keyser Soze 16802]

but

 

[manatree]

 

[Zenophile]

This subject is so fascinating.
If the source of this stuff is us and/or our allies, that’s interesting.
If it’s our adversaries, that’s also interesting (though not necessarily ideal).
If it‘s neither ours nor theirs, then it’s really interesting.
And even if it turns out to be an elaborate 80+ year psy op, that’s pretty interesting as well.

 

[psuro]

If I put on weight, shouldn’t I be able to run faster?

Just downhill.

 

[psuro]

That may be a question for:

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Currently working as the Deputy Project Scientists for the Infrared Survey Explorer, Amy Mainzer has made several television appearances over the past few years discussing asteroids and stars. Having gained a PhD in Astronomy from UCLA, she has also worked as the Principal Investigator for the NEOWISE project that studies minor planets. Frequent viewers of the History Channel are likely to have seen her on TV as she is a recurring collaborator.

I heard she is mixed up with the CEO of Spacely Sprockets.

 

[PSU Mike]

I heard she is mixed up with the CEO of Spacely Sprockets.

Better than a cog sucker.

 

[psuro]

Better than a cog sucker.

 

[Zenophile]

@PrtLng Lion

 

[ApexLion]

Alien probe?

Harvard scientist says interstellar object on course for Earth could be nuclear-powered​

Link for story

BTW, I watched the first 15 minutes of the movie A Quiet Place. That scared the s%* out of me. I'm not really a fan of humans being hunted but wow that was something.

 

[Zenophile]

Colonel Karl Nell discusses some of the obstacles to the conversation.

 

[PrtLng Lion]

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the universe has a speed limit because mass is equivalent to energy and there is a finite amount of mass in the universe, thus a finite amount of energy. To accelerate something to a speed greater than light would require an infinite amount of energy.

Fun Google: Eddington’s number.

I hear ya... I'm pretty familiar with relativity and its implications. I think, however, it's entirely possible that EInstein's revelations aren't the full story, or there are OTHER ways to traverse the vast distances of space without reaching the speed of light. Some civilization thousands of years ahead of us could have figured it out. Every time humans think they understand the universe, the universe throws us another curveball. The fact that we don't have a TOE (general relativity and quantum mechanics aren't compatible) is a good indicator that we're missing something really big.

 

[PrtLng Lion]

This is a pretty interesting new research paper, looking at pre-Sputnik images from objects in orbit around the earth.

For those who want the Cliff notes, check out this video. (start at the 0:40 mark)

 

[PrtLng Lion]

I'm always fascinated by these articles when someone who claims they worked for NASA comes forward. I believe he's saying he was a contractor for a NGO but NASA has knowledge of objects from outer space?

What do you make of this article?

Ex-NASA engineer claims trillions of shape-shifting, cloaked devices are hidden across Earth

@Zenophile @Midnighter

Interesting article. Not sure how they concluded it was extraterrestrial from the isotopic analysis of the dust. What are the tell tale signs?

 

[slwlion01]

LOL, my wife has been shape-shifting for over fifty years.

Hope she does not read this page, for your sake. lol

 

[ApexLion]

Interesting article. Not sure how they concluded it was extraterrestrial from the isotopic analysis of the dust. What are the tell tale signs?

vapor trails not in back but inside of object? @PrtLng Lion ?

sorry was responding to article about ahem "meteor" or ET ship hurtling past earth.

The shape shifting tech is beyond me. Need an engineer or materials scientist on here to chime in.

 

[ApexLion]

Another article.

Comet actually aliens?

 

[manatree]

 

[PrtLng Lion]

Another article.

Comet actually aliens?

I think Loeb is just trying to highlight that we can't rule out that explanation, not so much that he's personally convinced it's artificial.

 

[johnmpsu]

I know better than to argue math with a pro, kind sir. I think the below passage is interesting.

According to all observations and current scientific theories, matter travels at slower-than-light (subluminal) speed with respect to the locally distorted spacetime region. Speculative faster-than-light concepts include the Alcubierre drive, Krasnikov tubes, traversable wormholes, and quantum tunneling.[1][2] Some of these proposals find loopholes around general relativity, such as by expanding or contracting space to make the object appear to be travelling greater than c. Such proposals are still widely believed to be impossible as they still violate current understandings of causality, and they all require fanciful mechanisms to work (such as requiring exotic matter).​

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More interesting stuff all the time. Somehow I think humans will figure it out if we survive.

Scientists Announce a Physical Warp Drive Is Now Possible. Seriously.

Humans are one step closer to traveling at faster-than-light speeds.

www.popularmechanics.com

For the physicists in here, not me.

Introducing Physical Warp Drives

The Alcubierre warp drive is an exotic solution in general relativity. It allows for superluminal travel at the cost of enormous amounts of matter with negative mass density. For this reason, the Alcubierre warp drive has been widely considered unphysical. In this study, we develop a model of a...

arxiv.org

 

[ApexLion]

More interesting stuff all the time. Somehow I think humans will figure it out if we survive.

Scientists Announce a Physical Warp Drive Is Now Possible. Seriously.

Humans are one step closer to traveling at faster-than-light speeds.

www.popularmechanics.com

For the physicists in here, not me.

Introducing Physical Warp Drives

The Alcubierre warp drive is an exotic solution in general relativity. It allows for superluminal travel at the cost of enormous amounts of matter with negative mass density. For this reason, the Alcubierre warp drive has been widely considered unphysical. In this study, we develop a model of a...

arxiv.org

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