No More Justise
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I don't think him or Tyus are ready honestly BUT their stock is high right now and unless they come back and score like 20ppg(which wouldn't happen in the unselfish offense at Duke) their stock will never be higher than it is now....I think in time Justise could be a great NBA player....Tyus I never see as a great player in the NBA but a very good one and IMO they have no choice but to leave this year.
Thanks for a great season Tyus,Jah and Justise....good luck to each and every one of you....and Quinn also good luck to him too
Thanks for a great season Tyus,Jah and Justise....good luck to each and every one of you....and Quinn also good luck to him too
Exactly how do you hone your game with limited practice time allowed and having to go to class full time better than working with all kinds of coaches and playing the game for a living? Still waiting to hear a good answer to that question. One that is asked every time someone says that.
Good luck to Winslow. I think he is ready now for the NBA and he will work on his game while he gets paid to play on the highest level possible in basketball.
Good luck to Winslow. I think he is ready now for the NBA and he will work on his game while he gets paid to play on the highest level possible in basketball.
I'm thankful we had these young men for one year. What memories they gave us. I'm happy they get to do what makes them happy. They won a championship and beat unc twice.
Denniden----I think playing under the GOAT they would get more actual coaching than they will in the NBA but that's just my opinion.....not saying I think they should stay just my opinion that those would be better off when they first go in the NBA if they came back for another year but i wish them luck and don't blame them at all
I think people need to understand there's more to becoming a professional than just honing your skills. A lot of personal growth, development, maturation, etc. happens in college. Just because a kid would be forced to take classes that won't be of much use to him doesn't mean being a student for another year won't better prepare him for life as a professional than just playing basketball all the time. I'm not saying any of this applies to any of our guys, but I don't believe it's always the best choice to jump.
With the caveat that I personally think it makes sense for Winslow to go, I'd say a few things on the subject. First, I think people greatly overstate the restrictions on practice time that exist at the collegiate level. As the unionization case involving NW reveals, most guys in a high-level D-1 football or basketball program are spending anywhere from 50-60 hrs.on their respective sports during the season (when you count not only on-court practice, but individual shooting work, film sessions, weight lifting, physical therapy, etc.). It's not quite as much as you'd spend in the NBA, but it's not that far off. In the end of the day, the body can only take so many hours of running / exercising / shooting etc. To the extent an athlete does spend time studying, I really think that's taking far more from the kid's social life than it is from their basketball practice -- I mean reality is that guys in the NBA have a ton of down time and spend that extra time partying / focused on business ventures / etc. -- instead of playing b-ball day. Obviously most people don't lift the curtain behind what goes on at the NBA level, but lets not forget J-Will talking about how guys used to fly to Vegas on off-days to gamble, or would smoke pot on the day of games, etc. etc. In the end of the day, there's just a limit on how much basketball-related activities anyone can take --- and I frankly think guys at Duke and similar programs are pretty much doing everything they can to improve.
Second, in terms of long-term growth, there is certainly value to playing games as the focal point of the team in games that matter -- versus being a role player on a bad team in games that don't matter, or even playing in the D-league where it really doesn't matter. In terms of growth, I think there's definitely something a kid like Tyus gets from working on pick-on-roll offense in the Final 4 in front of 70k fans that he just can't get from playing 8 relatively meaningless 2nd quarter minutes in a Timberwolves v. Celtic games, or Winslow can't get as designated defender / three-point spacer who's not asked to work on creating off the dribble in games (b/c he's not ready to do that at the nba level). Also, there are obviously the intangibles, leadership talents you can develop in college that you just can't get until much later in the NBA -- b/c you're not in a position as a 20 yr. old role player to lead.
Third, in the case of Duke, I do think its arguable whether you're getting better coaching by Coach K than you can get at most bad NBA teams (i.e., not everyone is going to go play under Greg Popovich).
I'm surprised anyone doesn't think Winslow is ready.
No question he is ready physically...then go check out his numbers after healing from his shoulder issue. Some think he was average from 3 and the foul line but that isn't remotely true for that last 2 months. Defensively he can guard at least SG and SF immediately and he rebounds at a great clip.
If he isn't ready:..no one is
No question he is ready physically...then go check out his numbers after healing from his shoulder issue. Some think he was average from 3 and the foul line but that isn't remotely true for that last 2 months. Defensively he can guard at least SG and SF immediately and he rebounds at a great clip.
If he isn't ready:..no one is
I read the other posts in response to mine, and the argument seems to be maturity. For some it may be true but I was responding to the honing of the skills part. You can hone your skills while getting experience in the NBA just as well as you can if not better in college. Especially when you are at the level of a Winslow.